User:TheNuttyOne/Smash 5 Prediction!

Well, we know the entire roster for Smash 4, so predictions for that are pointless- and it's never too early, right? :P

You can make edits to your prediction until the first Smash 5 character is confirmed (which may be a very long time, obviously). This should help pass the time though!

You can mostly use anything- a table, an image, or even just a dotted list. If you choose to use an image, make it a clear image so that it's easy to tell which character is which, and also include the names of each character somewhere on the roster.

Make a header with your username when you add your prediction, and... well, have fun! :P

Rules

1. There can be no more than 80 characters on your roster.
   • If you wish to bring back transformations, they only count as one character.
2. Characters must be featured mainly in video games. This does not mean video games based off of TV or movies, rather TV or movies based off of video games. (So Ash Ketchum would be acceptable, but Mickey Mouse would not.)
3. No more than 10 veterans may be cut.
   • Mewtwo, Ice Climbers, Lucas, Wolf, Roy, etc. do not count against this.
4. Be creative and have fun!

Scoring System

• Correct Newcomer Prediction - 10 points. A correct newcomer prediction is when a newcomer on your prediction roster is confirmed to be in the game. Pretty straightforward.
• Correct Veteran Prediction - 5 points. Like the above, but with veterans. Since it's pretty easy to predict this (I'm pretty sure Mario will return), it doesn't have as high a score as a correct newcomer prediction.
• Semi-Correct Prediction - 3 points. This is when you predict a transformation character or a team character, but only one of them appear. (i.e. you predict Zelda/Sheik, but only Sheik is confirmed). You get the three points for each character (meaning if you predict Pokemon Trainer with Greninja, Chespin, and Braixen and they all appear separately, you get 9 points.) However, there is no penalty if only part of the character is confirmed (only Greninja appears, not Chespin and Braixen), you just only get 3 points. This same rule applies to if you predict two characters separately but they are confirmed as transformations or a team, even if you only guessed one of the characters. If you predict a team character and only one of them appears with the other as a costume (like Popo with Nana as a costume instead of Popo & Nana as the Ice Climbers), you do not get 6 points, only 3. If you guess a character as a costume but they are confirmed as a separate character (i.e. Daisy as a Peach costume), you do not get any bonus points and are charged with a missing prediction.
  • If you guess a costume and the costume is not included, there is no penalty. The same applies to if a costume appears that was not guessed. The costumes are solely for fun.
• Incorrect Prediction - Minus 5 points. This is when a character on your roster is confirmed to not be in the game. Like how Chrom was highly speculated in Smash 4 but was confirmed to not be playable in the Lucina/Robin reveal trailer. Or how Ashley was confirmed to be an Assist Trophy. Those characters would have gotten you 5 points removed.
• Missing Prediction - Minus 3 points. This is when a character is confirmed that wasn't on your roster (like how no one could've guessed Wii Fit Trainer (yet oddly everyone predicted Duck Hunt)). Since Sakurai often picks characters no one expected (Ice Climbers, R.O.B., WFT), it's reasonable for this to be slightly less of a deduction than the incorrect prediction.

When SSB5 is released and all of the characters are confirmed, everyone's score will be added up and the winner will win... um, something. I'll decide that later. And if I win... well, I can't really give myself a prize, so that just means everyone loses I guess. Sigh.

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Roster Predictions

Nutta's Prediction

Welp, here we go! Now for some explanations because I'm bored.

• I did not add any Mario characters because, despite being the biggest and the mascot Nintendo series, they are way over-represented, with seven characters.
  • The DK, Yoshi, and Wario universes did not get any extra representatives because they are only barely separate from the Mario universe. EDIT: Added Dixie Kong as a newcomer, kinda serves as a newcomer for all four.
• I brought back the Ice Climbers because Sakurai cut them just because of them breaking the 3DS version. Since he likes his random characters, he'd probably bring them back once he's able to.
• I added Inkling because I think Splatoon! will be a pretty popular game, and its characters are really cool. I actually have an ink system worked out for him, but I won't go into to much detail.
• Yuga joins the Zelda series, mostly to even it out with the Mario and Pokemon games a little. EDIT: Replaced Yuga with Midna, a much more popular and highly requested character. EDIT: Replaced Midna with Skull Kid, another popular and highly-requested character who is also a villain, which would be nice to have. ...I really hate Ghirahim, btw.
• Krystal is added due to the fact that, alongside random characters, Sakurai also likes adding requested characters. Like King Dedede in Brawl and Mega Man in Smash 4. Also, she's a nice unique face for the Star Fox series, and would use her staff.
• I added Ridley too, because of the same reason as Krystal (and because I really wanted the roster to be even). I've seen images of him in Brawl at the same size as Bowser and Charizard, and it wasn't entirely ridiculous. Although I still doubt he'll get in, he would make an okay addition. Removed Ridley.
• Balloon Fighter joins as a new retro and random representative (heh heh, alliteration)
• Dillon because he was highly-requested and for an eShop representative.
• Waddle Dee because I think Sakurai will favor the Kirby series a little, since he favored the Kid Icarus in Smash 4.
• Chorus Kids for a second random character (we had both WFT and Duck Hunt, right?) EDIT: Cut Chorus Kids. Actually, I think most attempts at a random character will probably end it failure. I think getting the 3 point deduction would be better xD
• Mewtwo returns for Pokemon- however, he's likely going to be replaced by a Gen VII newcomer once I have an idea of who they are. Maybe even Gen VIII. EDIT: Due to Mewtwo being confirmed for DLC in SSB4, I think he's likely to return in SSB5 as non-DLC. As such, Greninja will now be replaced by a Gen VII/VIII Pokemon.
• Mallo is another eShop representative. And possibly a random character. In my opinion, he deserves it, but I'm sure someone disagrees. EDIT: Due to lack of a moveset, cut Mallo.
• Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, and Lucina return. Try as I might I couldn't come up with a fourth clone (which is why I added Ridley). I considered Jolteon, Blood Falcon, and Dark Link, but none of them seemed like they would make the cut. But, I think Sakurai will keep clones in. Personally, I like them. EDIT: Eventually decided on Ravio as a Link clone. He would fight using a wooden sword, which isn't as strong as Link's, but some of his moves have different effects- for example, his up special could use the Fire, Ice, and Sand Rods (switching through in that order), with the Fire having a fiery effect and having slightly more range, the Ice freezing opponents at high damages, and the Sand doing the most damage with no side effects. EDIT: Alongside updating Ravio's image, I removed Dark Pit because he wasn't accepted very well, while Dr. Mario and Lucina were (except for the people who just all-out hate clones). EDIT: Due to Sakurai's obsession with Kid Icarus, I brought back Dark Pit.
• Bomberman joins as a new third-party representative. He seemed like he fit the best, although he only beat out Maxwell and Professor Layton because he was the only one with 3D artwork (and I'm a stickler about things matching). EDIT: Due to Rayman's feature as a trophy, I think it's likely that he'll be a third party, not Bomberman. Still want Layton and Maxwell though :(
• EDIT: Added Viridi as a Kid Icarus newcomer, since she and Hades seem to be the most requested, and also because Sakurai is obsessed with KI and will probably add someone new.
• EDIT: A list of cut veterans: Duck Hunt and R.O.B.. I cut Duck Hunt because I needed an extra spot for Dixie Kong, and Duck Hunt was probably the dumbest character in the game (although I'm pretty good at him). I didn't actually mean to cut ROB, but he's a very random character and I have quite a few on the roster already, so cutting two of the random veterans wasn't an entirely bad thing. EDIT: Added back ROB, since he's been in two games and last time that happened it made lots of people upset, including people who thought they were ridiculous randoms. As mentioned above, Greninja will also likely be cut to be replaced by a Generation VII or Generation VIII newcomer.

So there you go. Feel free to add your own now. :)

Rtzxy's Prediction

Characters from Returning Series

Blue text detonates a newcomer.
File:MarioSymbol.png	Mario	Luigi	Peach/Daisy	Bowser	Rosalina & Luma	Waluigi
File:WarioSymbol.png	Wario	File:YoshiSymbol.png	Yoshi	File:IceClimbersSymbol.png	Ice Climbers
File:DKSymbol.png	Donkey Kong	Diddy Kong	Dixie Kong	File:PunchOutSymbol.png	Little Mac
File:ZeldaSymbol.png	Link	Zelda	Sheik	Ganondorf	Toon Link	Midna	Ghirahim
File:KirbySymbol.png	Kirby	King Dedede	Meta Knight	Magalor (maybe)	File:AnimalCrossingSymbol.png	Villager
File:PokemonSymbol.png	Pikachu	Jigglypuff	Lucario	Charizard	Greninja	Mewtwo
File:KidIcarusSymbol.png	Pit/Dark Pit	Palutena	File:StarFoxSymbol.png	Fox	Falco
File:EarthboundSymbol.png	Ness	File:MetroidSymbol.png	Samus	Zero Suit Samus	File:PikminSymbol.png	Olimar/Alph
File:FireEmblemSymbol.png	Ike	Marth/Lucina	Robin	File:FZeroSymbol.png	Captain Falcon
File:Game&WatchSymbol.png	Mr. Game & Watch	File:SonicSymbol.png	Sonic	Tails (maybe)	File:MegaManSymbol.png	Mega Man
File:PacManSymbol.png	Pac-Man	File:XenobladeSymbol.png	Shulk	File:SmashBrosSymbol.png	Mii Fighters

Notes

• Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt, Wii Fit Trainer, and Dr. Mario are cut.
• Mewtwo and Ice Climbers return.
• Lucina and Dark Pit will be demoted to costumes of Marth and Pit, respectively.
• Alph returns as a palette swap of Olimar, and Daisy becomes a palette swap of Peach.
• Waluigi, Dixie Kong, either Midna or Ghirahim, and maybe Magalor and Tails are newcomers.

Characters from New Series

• Inkling (Splatoon)
  • A Splatoon Inkling has a pretty good chance in being in Smash 5 or 6, as I believe Splatoon is going to be a (relatively) well-selling game, and a representative would be nice.
• Rayman (Rayman series)
  • If he can appear as a trophy in Smash 4, why not as a playable character in Smash 5 or 6?
• Tempo (HarmoKnight)
  • Because why not? He seems like a good fighter choice, plus I played and enjoyed the game he's from, so, he's gonna be in Smash 5 or 6.
• Balloon Fight (Balloon Fight)
  • A rumor stating that he was supposed to be in Smash 64 circulated, plus, we got Bowser Jr., so…

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PikaSamus' prediction

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Veterans

All characters from Smash 3DS/Wii U return.

• Wolf (Star Fox)
• Ice Climbers (Ice Climber); Only cut due to 3DS limitations
• Lucas (EarthBound)
• Pichu (Pokémon); Dr. Mario proved that Melee-only characters can come back. I would have Pichu be decloned to have more unique A Button attacks than it already does, along with a Luigi-Fireball-like Thunder Jolt.

Newcomers

• Generation 7 or 8 representative (Pokémon); Depends on which is newer at the time
• Ridley (Metroid); Too big? Seriously?
• Slippy (Star Fox); I know this seems random, but I feel that Slippy is important enough to be playable, and I feel that he's more important that Krystal. "Your carcass is mine!"
• A playable character from next game (Fire Emblem); Depends on whether a new one is made.