User talk:Byllant

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Using a subpage for a sig?

You'll have to make it first. You got an hour before I bump it to half votes or you can use a regular sig.--MegaTron1XD 23:53, 11 December 2010 (EST)

Small world

Are you from McleodGaming's Wikia? I would tell you to check out my front page to figure out who I am, but I have a feeling you might not remember me since I haven't touched Wikia for over a year after returning for one day after two years of absence. If I recall right, you were the guy that I thought only spoke Spanish. Byll, correct? Dragon5 (talk) 00:47, 22 January 2014 (EST)

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Yo

Just because I haven't been on lately doesn't mean you can readd information I removed, when you never responded back to me on my talkpage about it. Don't do that again. Omega Tyrant 15:34, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

Well, that's because of that useless rule that stablishes responses must be done on the same talk page, how in the world was I supposed to know you replied to my message if I don't get notified whenever your talk page gets updated? that was because of lack of comunication, and I don't hate Punch-Out!! it's just it was taking too much credit, I know the Boxing Ring is clasify as a Punch-Out!!, though I still have my doubts about that as waluigi was also suddenly change from the Mario universe to the Mario universe. Now I understand some the policies, but still the only downfall this wiki has is to persistently call the fourth game Super Smash Bros. 4. And you are an admin, you are supposed to be respectful, now matter how annoying a user could be or how meddling some people are. Let's settle apart this incident and prentend nothing happened, so this bashfull scene gets forgotten between you and me.

--Byllant (talk) 16:48, 21 April 2014 (EDT)

"how in the world was I supposed to know you replied to my message if I don't get notified whenever your talk page gets updated?"

Pay attention to the recent changes? Check back to the talk page the conversation was on, especially before readding disputed content the conversation is about? Put the page on your watchlist and use that to keep track of responses to it? No one else has any problems seeing if a talkpage conversation got replied to, learn to wiki better, your own incompetence and failure to even check back is not an excuse.

"though I still have my doubts about that as waluigi was also suddenly change from the Mario universe to the Mario universe."

What the hell are you even going on about here? That makes no sense whatsoever.

"but still the only downfall this wiki has is to persistently call the fourth game Super Smash Bros. 4."

So it's a "downfall" because we call it by the name everybody calls it by? You should read SW:OFFICIAL by the way before whining about us not using "official" names.

"And you are an admin, you are supposed to be respectful, now matter how annoying a user could be or how meddling some people are."

So telling users not to readd removed content while not responding to talk page conversations about it (i.e. informing them to follow standard wiki procedure and doing my job) is now being "disrespectful", gotcha. Omega Tyrant 16:02, 24 April 2014 (EDT)

That's Wikia's "fault", I don't normally check the recent changes page as I'm very used to the Wikia's wiki activity page, the same way I'm now very used to Wikia's message walls than user talk pages. I expected your respones to be on my talk page at first, that's why I never checked back your talk page, I'm not a stalker.

Have you ever come around other wikis around the internet? almost very wiki in existence calls it Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U or a similar name, not Super Smash Bros. 4, it's ironic how the Smash-centered wiki calls by a very irrelevant name, even the Smashpedia calls it Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS and Wii U; I have read No Official policy page a thousand times, and I have concluded it is one of the most ridiculous policies this wiki has because it is prone to contradict itself but still, it doesn't justify this wiki's insistence of calling "Super Smash Bros. 4", weren't "Super Smash Bros. Wii U" and "Super Smash Bros. 3DS" a lot more easier, evident and suitable names? I'm avoiding the "for" in this instance.

I mentioned Waluigi's case as a proof that maybe some mistakes could have been commited in the direct (like a chance the Boxing Ring could also still be considered a Smash Bros. stage), Waluigi has never been in a Wario game and all of sudden he is now a property of the Wario universe in SUPER SMASH BROS. FOR NINTENDO 3DS AND Wii U (:P) but I'm only speculating.

You were direspectful because you swear, that's a proof you were mad, don't ever get mad, whoever gets mad first loses the argument... nah! I'm teasing you with that last one, but still, relax and avoid cursing.

--Byllant (talk) 01:27, 25 April 2014 (EDT)

"That's Wikia's "fault", I don't normally check the recent changes page as I'm very used to the Wikia's wiki activity page, the same way I'm now very used to Wikia's message walls than user talk pages. I expected your respones to be on my talk page at first, that's why I never checked back your talk page, I'm not a stalker."

So you never even bothered to read our talk page policy in the first place, nor even bothered to actually look at how other people work on the Wiki, even though you have been here for years now (nor even bothered to notice a post on your talkpage already got moved to the page the conversation was started on)? And making sure you got a response before doing something disputed is "stalking" rather than being responsible? No, it's not "Wikia's fault", it's your own fault for being an incompetent and irresponsible user.

"Have you ever come around other wikis around the internet?"

Have you ever actually been around actual people? Everyone calls it a variation of "Super Smash Bros. 4", unless they are trying to be "official", which the vast majority of people don't give a shit for.

And that's the point of SW:OFFICIAL, to use the most efficient and well-known term for familiarity and ease of information. If the official term is such, like pivot grab, good we'll gladly use it then. If the official term is some ultra gaudy term that's difficult to flow properly in articles, such as "Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS", or is some weird obscure name the majority of readers won't get, such a ukemi, thus no one uses them and it's a disservice to us and the readers to use them, then we're not going to use them when a better and more common term exists. If you want to irrationally completely value "being official" over everything else and all reasonable logic, then this wiki might not be for you.

"I mentioned Waluigi's case as a proof that maybe some mistakes could have been commited in the direct (like a chance the Boxing Ring could also still be considered a Smash Bros. stage)"

This is completely irrelevant, and if anything, this would be "proof" that they "mislabeled" an obvious boxing-inspired stage as a "Smash stage" (if they did labelled it as such) instead of being from the blatant boxing game. It hurts your point if anything.

"You were direspectful because you swear"

Hahaha, so you're 12 then, huh? Omega Tyrant 13:37, 25 April 2014 (EDT)

Like if you were better enough, I got my own experince by the way I work with policies giving me some awareness, sort of, policies are not scrubed in the face of users, policies will only be notified by people that searches for them, so don't blame for getting use to how the rest of the wikis work, don't expect to change a dogma when most of the people work in a different way. Policies are not in a place you could inmeidately stump upon them, once again I mentioned you the uselessness of having to response on talk pages, why the hell do I need that? currenlty you are stalking my talk page, but wait, you seem to lack a sense of humor, I don't really meant "stalking" like that, don't be silly.

There you got a point wrong, not everyone calls it Super Smash Bros. 4, some call it Smash Bros. Wii U the Smash Bros. 3DS or similar variants, but I won't deny SSB4 is an popular [wrong] option, even if it's a very unprofessional one. That policy is once again contradictory: following that belief you said why isn't Super Smash Bros. Brawl's article called just Brawl then? or Super Smash Bros. Melee just Melee? or the orignal game complemented as Super Smash Bros. 64? even the upper icon reads a 64 (Toomai screwed up that there, should have been an S) that's the most common way those games are called but in the end the official name was used for the first 3 but but is an excpetion for the upcoming? Sure sakurai didn't name it a creative name anyway. One thing is calling a move by a more popular name and another is refering a whole game title by a shortened unofficial name, it's like calling Super Mario 3D Land just Super Mario 3D.

Remember we are human being we are prone to mistakes, you, me, and even Sakurai and his translators, (you still haven't wondered why Waluigi is labeled as part of the Wario universe?). The Boxing Ring will always be a missing case as the stage was revelead as Smash to be reformed as Punch-Out, following Mac's [very boringly expected...] addition. Rememeber Smash always carries elements from Sakurai's past works, you shouldn't have removed the Kirby origin for that stage. Oh! just let me get that clear, I don't hate Little Mac, I hate the fact a lot of people expected him and he got in, that kills the emotion of expecting the unexpected, I feel the same way for Ridley.

I tried to avoid swearing when responsing, it's not beacuse I'm 12 (I'm not that age BTW), I could have added shit, dick, cunt or fuck. I have told you swearing is a sign of anger, again, whoever gets angry means the argument was lost.

In conclusion, I will never get this wiki to be the way I would like it to be, and I will never be the user you want me to be, but I would still try to tell people nonetheless there are better options for doing a better job without breaking the rules or going agaisnt certain statements that aren't so ovious, all this in a way we all could agree, and none being is disagreement, for instance I'm planning to incorporate an items section in every Smash article, as they are very important element missing on the main articles, but are not added because no one in here has ever tried and feel is they are not needed.

--Byllant (talk) 15:49, 25 April 2014 (EDT)