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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, just vote if you are a total fanboy of the character. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

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Round 75 Three-Quarter Fiver

Mario vs. Wario

File:Mario.jpg	Winner!! undecided 0 to 0		File:Wario.jpg
We start the quintuple-header with a fight that needs no introduction. So there won't be one! Will the "M" or "W" win?
Votes for Mario He doesn't smell his own farts...right?-Ivy 73 23:25, 25 February 2011 (EST) I don't like them both much, but i hate Wario more then Mario. --77.255.127.96 01:34, 26 February 2011 (EST) I can control him better than Wario 206.53.152.108 02:40, 26 February 2011 (EST) I love Fireballs and Super Jump Punch!Kirbythe Amazing 03:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) The famous plumber FTW! Zero (talk) 03:31, 26 February 2011 (EST) Never really liked Wario, and while I may be better with Wario, I enjoy playing Mario more. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) Meh, never liked Wario. Mario is okay I guess, but if I had to choose, I'd say M>W. --24.11.24.139 07:00, 26 February 2011 (EST) Mario is a teritary and in my Top 10. Wario is among my worsts in Brawl. Plus, i always liked playing Mario than any other character in the Mario series (the second being Luigi). Zeldasmash (talk) 07:52, 26 February 2011 (EST)		Votes for Wario I hate Mario more than Wario. Mega Tron1 XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) Wario's garlic says it all. Floor2000x (talk) 23:00, 25 February 2011 (EST) Fat says that he is top tier like Meta Knight is fat too. ..... (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2011 (EST) I'm great with Wario. As simple as that. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) Way more interesting character. 110.174.90.69 08:37, 26 February 2011 (EST) Time for Wario to break out his WIND ROCKETS! Brawlingbrian LAND MASTER! 09:16, 26 February 2011 (EST) Since I voted, Wario's gonna lose..... `Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf` 09:44, 26 February 2011 (EST)
Comments This should clear some stuff out from that line. ..... (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) Megatron1, Floor2000 and I were the first ones to vote. ..... (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2011 (EST) Can we please have less of these kinds of comments? The page is kind of big enough as it is. Toomai Glittershine The Emissary 23:12, 25 February 2011 (EST) Sorry. ..... (talk) 23:14, 25 February 2011 (EST) Yeah. I think this match is going to be my first lost. ..... (talk) 08:48, 26 February 2011 (EST) Or what if I lose all of these matches. ..... (talk) 08:56, 26 February 2011 (EST)

Luigi vs. Diddy Kong

File:Luigi.jpg	Winner!! undecided 0 to 0		File:Diddy.jpg
Next up is a pair of second bananas, both more agile and less conventional than their more well-known counterparts. Both originating as palette swaps before being distinctified in later games, which of the two has it here?
Votes for Luigi YEAH! Epic Down Taunt! Floor2000x (talk) 23:00, 25 February 2011 (EST) SHORYUKEN!-Ivy 73 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST) I prefer playing with him. --77.255.127.96 01:41, 26 February 2011 (EST) Green > Red Kirbythe Amazing 03:16, 26 February 2011 (EST) Similar to my previous vote, I never really liked Diddy Kong, and while I'm more competent with Diddy, I'm a fan of Luigi, who I also enjoy playing more as well. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) One of the closest characters of my choice to being a secondary. Plus, Luigi can kick Diddy's ass.....pretty badly. Zeldasmash (talk) 07:50, 26 February 2011 (EST) SPAGETTI! `Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf` 09:45, 26 February 2011 (EST)		Votes for Diddy Kong I barely like Luigi. Diddy is just epic item spam. Mega Tron1 XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) My brother uses bananas which makes it annoying so he gets it. ..... (talk) 23:13, 25 February 2011 (EST) PEANUTS!206.53.152.106 02:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) I hate Luigi in this game, or at least I hate to play agaisnt him and I prefer Diddy´s bananas. Zero (talk) 03:31, 26 February 2011 (EST) I just hate Luigi and his stupid drug-induced final smash. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) Monkey with peanut popguns and rocketbarrels > Secondary brother. 110.174.90.69 08:36, 26 February 2011 (EST)
Comments This is what I call an exciting battle! Kirbythe Amazing 03:55, 26 February 2011 (EST) I like both characters but can't decide who to vote for! --24.11.24.139 06:56, 26 February 2011 (EST) Yeah kinda same here for me too. ..... (talk) 08:55, 26 February 2011 (EST)

Bumper vs. Flipper

	Winner!! undecided 0 to 0
Two items designed to whack anyone that gets in range once set, with the main difference being that the Flipper bonks you multiple times while the Bumper gives you a healthy (though non-damaging) punt. They've never co-existed, so which one has the fan approval?
Votes for Bumper Can get KOs much easier. Mega Tron1 XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) Well it has higher knockback and owns. ..... (talk) 23:06, 25 February 2011 (EST) The Flippers are just annoying.-Ivy 73 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST) Because they are useful at Multi Man Brawl. --77.255.127.96 01:42, 26 February 2011 (EST) One day when I played stock brawl, this thing saves my live when I throw it to my enemy206.53.152.101 02:49, 26 February 2011 (EST) Bumpers sometimes help me... Kirbythe Amazing 03:18, 26 February 2011 (EST) Bumper fail...but good to KO. Zero (talk) 03:30, 26 February 2011 (EST) One hit on a bumper can be all it takes to kill you. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) No other item can do up to 999% damage on N64 version in one throw. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:35, 26 February 2011 (EST) Way more deadly. 110.174.90.69 08:35, 26 February 2011 (EST)		Votes for Flipper These were so annoying to me in Melee, slowly kills you while teh bumper is a 0hko. Floor2000x (talk) 23:01, 25 February 2011 (EST) Flippers aren't as disruptive, and in Melee, the Flipper could be used to get a large amount of points on the first stage in Adventure mode when you fight the Yoshis. 2500 points for each Yoshi KO'd by it, and the KOs stack together for double, triple, etc. KOs. So if you were to KO 5 Yoshis with it, you would get 12,500 points from Flipper KOs, and an additional 15,000 points for Quintuple KO, giving a total of 27,500 points. You can't do that with the Bumper in Brawl. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
Comments sigh* Another crazy ratio battle... Kirbythe Amazing 04:06, 26 February 2011 (EST) Haven't I already told you to stop complaining constantly about matchups where the voters results don't appear close? Toomai already told ..... to stop making comments such as these that add nothing and are just making an already overly page bigger, and this applies to your "crazy ratio" complaints as well. Omega Tyrant 05:18, 26 February 2011 (EST) Hmm... this got me thinking... what would happen if you could set a bumper and a flipper at the same place, and then set one of them off? The bumper would hit the flipper and the flipper would hit the bumper........ Hmm... Fuddlebob (talk) 05:41, 26 February 2011 (EST) Orange Tyrant, about your comment, you can't earn points for ANYTHING in Brawl. --24.11.24.139 07:02, 26 February 2011 (EST) I don't recall myself being orange, and please refer to rule 7 of the Smash Arena. But regardless, your claim against me is false anyway. You do indeed earn bonus points for clearing Classic or All Star in Brawl based on difficulty, and can even earn an insignificant 10,000 point bonus for clearing with no stock loss. Omega Tyrant 08:32, 26 February 2011 (EST)

Link vs. Marth

	Winner!! undecided 0 to 0		File:Marth.jpg
While Link is certainly less one-dimensional than Marth's sword-only fighting style, the blue-haired one has finesse that the Hero of Time/Hyrule/Twilight/etc may not be able to match. Which ends up being the victor?
Votes for Link Tough choice, but Link is much more epic then Marth. Zero (talk) 03:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) Master sword > Falchion. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:36, 26 February 2011 (EST) I will always prefer this guy more than Marth. He is cooler, he is more epic and he is more bad-ass. And also, he is my main. Zeldasmash (talk) 07:44, 26 February 2011 (EST) Link has saved the world on numerous occasions and is simply a far more awesome character. I don't like Marth at all. 110.174.90.69 08:34, 26 February 2011 (EST)		Votes for Marth I'm a Fire Emblem fan at heart. Mega Tron1 XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) I've always used marth instead of link in the games. Floor2000x (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2011 (EST) Dude, Marth is the king of Melee and Brawl. ..... (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2011 (EST) Tough pick, but I gotta say recovery is slightly better, plus he has better combos.-Ivy 73 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST) I'm better in all ways with Marth. --77.255.127.96 01:50, 26 February 2011 (EST) Dolphin Slash is my favourite move!206.53.152.106 02:56, 26 February 2011 (EST) I just like Marth betterKirbythe Amazing 03:24, 26 February 2011 (EST) Link sucks bad in Brawl. Marth is much better. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) While he may be a dropped secondary now, he was in my early Brawl days my best character, while Link has always been among my worst. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
Comments

Squirtle vs. Ivysaur vs. Charizard

File:Squirtlessbb.png	File:BrawlIvysaur.png	File:Charizard.png
Winner!! undecided 0 to 0
The last battle in this five-pack is a three-way between Pokémon Trainer's three Pokémon. Like other multi-way fights, this won't count in the statistics. Will it be the representative of water, grass, or fire that wins?
Votes for Squirtle Squirtle! Mega Tron1 XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) Squirtle is the best! --77.255.127.96 02:07, 26 February 2011 (EST) If it weren't for him, I would basically never use the Pokemon Trainer. Go Squirtle!!! <3 --24.11.24.139 06:58, 26 February 2011 (EST)	Votes for Ivysaur Who do you think I'm gonna pick? -Ivy 73 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST) My personal favourite out of the three, I just think he is better. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:37, 26 February 2011 (EST)	Votes for Charizard He's my favorite starter. Floor2000x (talk) 23:04, 25 February 2011 (EST) Beast dude. ..... (talk) 23:11, 25 February 2011 (EST) Flamethrower pwns206.53.152.108 03:00, 26 February 2011 (EST) My favorite pokémon. Zero (talk) 03:28, 26 February 2011 (EST) I BELIEVE I CAN FLY!Kirbythe Amazing 03:49, 26 February 2011 (EST) Yay! another of my suggestions is chosen. I like fire types better than water and grass therefore I go for my third favourite Pokemon. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) If Charizard was a stand alone character and that worthless Pokemon Trainer gimmick didn't exist, I could of possibly mained him, or he would of at least became a secondary or tertiary character. Can't say the same for the other two. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) Here is the order i like about them. Charizard is beast, Squirtle is sort of cool and Ivysaur sucks (sorry Ivy). Charizard is stronger than those 2 and he is more cooler. Also i prefer the Charizard starter family than the other 2. Zeldasmash (talk) 07:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) Charizard is just an awesome pokemon. 110.174.90.69 08:32, 26 February 2011 (EST)
Comments Well the first vote for Ivysaur was obvious that he will vote for it. ..... (talk) 08:50, 26 February 2011 (EST)

Round 74: Olimar vs. Pikmin

	Winner!! Pikmin File:Pikmin 080111b.jpg 13 to 24.5		File:Pikmin 080111b.jpg
Time for an unorthodox fight! This particular throwdown pits the general against his men, as it were. Is it the face of the army that gets the goods, or will it be the workers that get the props?
Votes for Olimar And just how well were Pikmin faring on their own before Olimar got them organized? Miles (talk) 22:02, 18 February 2011 (EST) They weren't exactly flourishing at the start of Pikmin 2. They so need Olimar.Mega Tron1 XD 22:07, 18 February 2011 (EST) Including the aforementioned comments above, there are a vast many (like, maybe over 40 :?) who use solimar.Vincent Tran Blorbs? 02:35, 19 February 2011 (EST) Just look at him! He is awesome! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:16, 19 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is useless without his pikmin, but pikmin are useless without olimar.. And also, he looks so epic! `Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf` 10:27, 19 February 2011 (EST) Olimar can still fight without pikmin, plus there are two pikmin that aren't in Brawl LordNock (the guy with the pie) (talk) 13:49, 19 February 2011 (EST) Olimar controls the Pikmin. 'Nuff said. The White Blur , The Whitest Thing Alive' I love just running around as Olimar and punching random enemies on Pikmin. Made even more fun by the fact he gets rocket gloves in Pikmin 2. Fuddlebob (talk) 00:55, 20 February 2011 (EST) Even though Olimar is nothing without his Pikmin, his Pikmin without Olimar are even less! At least Olimar can do something by himself. Critical Hit, and... KO! 08:44, 22 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is a good character for me in brawl. The pikmin would just run around the stage screaming without him.24.30.130.49 14:41, 22 February 2011 (EST) In the best ending of Pikmin, Olimar inspires the Pikmin to work for themselves. The Pikmin 2 pikmin I think are in a different part of pikmin planet, but either way, Olimar is an average everyday guy, who just does stuff to feed his family. So there.Dhawk (talk) 14:13, 23 February 2011 (EST) Olimar can take a hit, unlike the Pikmin. Omega Tyrant 14:23, 23 February 2011 (EST) Olimar survived well without them, and he can take more hits than them. Also, most of his attacks dont need him. User:HTK(User talk:HTK) 20:18, 25 February 2011 (EST)		Votes for Pikmin "Come men! We must rebel against Hitler!"-Ivy 73 21:09, 18 February 2011 (EST) Remember, there's strength in numbers! Brawlingbrian LAND MASTER! 21:19, 18 February 2011 (EST) The Pikmin pretty much make Olimar the character he is in Brawl now. Doc King (talk) 23:43, 18 February 2011 (EST) Olimar couldn't be that good playable characters without using his Pikmins. --178.37.127.133 01:55, 19 February 2011 (EST) Changed vote. I decided that pikmin are more powerful than Olimar and they are beast. ..... (talk) 02:01, 19 February 2011 (EST) Without the Pikmin Olimar would've died on the pikmin planet. 110.174.90.69 05:41, 19 February 2011 (EST) Purple Pikmin is just pure win. Zero (talk) 06:10, 19 February 2011 (EST) A Pikmin without leader don't know what to do, Olimar without Pikmin is USELESS Lucasthefourth Psychic Power 07:41, 19 February 2011 (EST) pikmin are so cute--Peach67809 (talk) 09:35, 19 February 2011 (EST) Your joking right? Without his Pikmin, Olmair is pathetic. Hevck, he doesn't even know how to punch or kick and probably couldn't with those arms! Pikmin are unstoppable army that spread fear throughout planets! TheBioShadow (talk) 10:48, 19 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is nothing without his pikmin --204.191.132.110 12:03, 19 February 2011 (EST) From a Smash perspective, these guys are awesome. In the Pikmin games, they suck. Luckily we're talking about this on a Smash related scope, so, Pikmin! Havoc Reaper 16:46, 19 February 2011 (EST) as the chinease one from snake said: they fight, they help, they multiply, and then they get eaten... how terrible, give some respect to those funny, weak, and edible things! of course, i never played Pikmin... but it's name seems a bit like pokemon... so... WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE!85.250.140.18 12:31, 20 February 2011 (EST) The Pikmin are the reason Olimar is even a character in this game.98.116.118.143 19:08, 20 February 2011 (EST) It's 5 on 1, kinda obvious who wins 75.32.32.229 13:45, 21 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is nothing without his Pikmin, but the Pikmin are nothing without Olimar. I'll vote for the real contender in smash.198.166.220.113 16:15, 21 February 2011 (EST) The series is called Pikmin, not Olimar. Burgundy (talk) 17:47, 21 February 2011 (EST) i like Pikmin!206.53.152.103 22:22, 22 February 2011 (EST) Well, this is 1 vs 5, right?Kirbythe Amazing 22:32, 22 February 2011 (EST) Pikmin are awesome, they are edible! Floor2000x (talk) 22:48, 22 February 2011 (EST) Olimar would be absolutely nothing without pikmin - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 07:00, 23 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is just useless without his valiant men. RedEgadd (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2011 (EST) Half Votes olimar is the weakest without his pikmins! go pikmins!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.204.199 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 19 February 2011 "Let's go! We must-- what- what are you doing? Get off! No! NO! NOOOOO!" Exactly.PKFire MetaKnight —Preceding unsigned comment added 08:35, February 19, 2011 (EST) Olimar is very weak- almost nothing- without these guys. (This is by Roxas13Nobody Olimar cant fight without the pikmin, so pikmin would kick his little hiney.—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 19 February 2011 Pikmins are vegtables, so you can eat them! yum! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.91.232 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 19 February 2011 (EST) PIKMIN ARE SO SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!! In brawl, when Olimar doesn't have Pikmin he stinks. He can't even use smash attacks. The point is is that Pikmin are the ones who actually brawl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 10:12, 24 February 2011 (EST)
Comments Can't decide but more better match. ..... (talk) 23:20, 18 February 2011 (EST) The pikmin were pretty much helpless before olimar, but olimar is hopeless without the pikmin... which one to choose...?Rising Dragon (talk) 06:36, 19 February 2011(EST) The both very weak... who are better? WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE! So they're useless without each other, true? this is like... Popo vs Nana... no wait, they're the same... Sigh I wish KirbytheAmazing could vote right now, he's on study trip to Bali... Lucasthefourth Psychic Power 05:01, 21 February 2011 (EST) I never looked closely at Olimar's hands before...Those gloves make his hands look mechanized. Brawlingbrian LAND MASTER! 11:32, 22 February 2011 (EST) Another crazy ratio match....... ..... (talk) 17:17, 22 February 2011 (EST) I tried to get a computer with internet connection, and I only see another we-already-know-the-winner battle? THIS IS MADNESS!Kirbythe Amazing 22:36, 22 February 2011 (EST) But this one actually came from suggestion, i remember someone suggest this... Lucasthefourth PK Thunder!! 09:23, 23 February 2011 (EST) Whoever made this suggestion... I will say this to him/her: "YOU'RE A JOKE!"Kirbythe Amazing 03:21, 24 February 2011 (EST) If the community likes a suggestion, it usually makes it in. Toomai Glittershine The Emissary 11:14, 24 February 2011 (EST) Remember that how good a matchup is is based on the amount of votes it generates from being interesting. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest involving voting, not actual fights, so stop complaining about these votes not being close. If you were to understand the basics of voting, you would see that landslide victories are much more common than close, nearly tied votes. I'll also like to add that Toomai nor the person making the suggestion has no foresight on how the vote will turn out, so demanding "close matchups" to be chosen is demanding something that cannot be done (not to mention that trying to choose "close matchups" only will cause the Smash Arena to lose out on interesting matchups with no real gain in return). So keep this all in mind the next time you complain about a vote not being close. Oh, and never insult Toomai nor the person who made the suggestion based on such a ridiculous basis they have no control over. Omega Tyrant 12:00, 24 February 2011 (EST) It is kind of hard to decide this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 24 February 2011 (EST) Remember to sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~. Omega Tyrant 15:16, 24 February 2011 (EST) I only can say, hello Friday! Kirbythe Amazing 04:35, 25 February 2011 (EST) I agree. And to think that when I saw this I thought it would actually be a bit closer than the last 3 or 4... my mistake. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:18, 25 February 2011 (EST) Well, the difference even get bigger! (Pikmin's score = 2 x Olimar's score) = Made me LOLKirbythe Amazing 12:30, 25 February 2011 (EST) I was playing today as Olimar, and one of the Red Pikmin was impaled by one of Link's arrows aand survived. The Pikmin can take a hit.Brawlingbrian LAND MASTER! 19:00, 25 February 2011 (EST) That's common knowledge. However, they can only take a few hits. Olimar is capable of taking much more. Mega Tron1 XD 19:01, 25 February 2011 (EST) Yeah, but pikmin are there to help Olimar do more damage. ..... (talk) 20:05, 25 February 2011 (EST) And Olimar only can use a 'really' few moves without Pikmins... Kirbythe Amazing 20:16, 25 February 2011 (EST) This guy named HTK (someone new) just voted. ..... (talk) 22:43, 25 February 2011 (EST)