User:CanvasK/Max speed

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Revision as of 11:43, November 30, 2021 by CanvasK (talk | contribs) (Characters have a speed cap, but not a universal one for some reason. I couldn't find anything in the param spreadsheet that lined up with my numbers and it can't be an animation length issue because Palu>>Mythra>Sonic for anim frames but Mythra>Sonic>>>Palu in testing (maybe there are special frames that can't be squeezed out or the values are hidden somewhere else). This is the answer to PKBeats video of Palu walking faster than running (don't have walking numbers yet))
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Measured on Mario Bros. by counting the number of frames it takes to loop around. Mario Bros. loops fighters that come within 25u of a blast line. Blast lines are at x=±200u, therefore 400u wide, -25u from both results in 350u. 350u is divided by frames to give speed in u/f. Size verified with Mii Gunner's walk (1u/f) which took 350f to loop.

Spirit team used: Primary Weight ↓ (Cat Peach, 1.4), Ninja style (1.6), 1×Trade-Off Speed ↑ (1.4), 2×Undamaged Speed ↑ (2.0). This team gives a dash speed multiplier of 6.272 (the highest currently possible). Maxim Tomatoes and Heart Containers were used to remove the Trade-Off Speed's damage and activate the Undamaged Speeds. If the 6.272 multiplier was reached, a Bunny Hood (2.0) was used to try to push it further.

Fighter buffs, such as Monado Arts, Limit, Deep Breathing, etc. were tested. These hit the same limit as without them and as such were omitted from the list. A slower spirit team could use them to reach the limit, but with this team it is unnecessary.

If a fighter hits their limit, they can still win out in a pushing match against someone with a lower speed. For example, Palutena's limit is slower than Sonic's unmodified max dash speed, letting him win in a race. If they run into each other, Palutena wins as she has excess speed past the limit (in another way, if the speed is 8 and the limit is 4, but there is a counter force of 2, 8-2=6 which is still limited to 4 and the counter force loses as 4>2). Using this to test is tricky as these speeds can exceed a lot of fighters jostle force, which is also reduced by 20% due to the Weight ↓ making it even easier to surpass.

Rank Name Normal
max dash
Approx.
max dash
Approx.
max multiplier
1 Pyra 1.38 12.069 8.7456
1 Mythra 2.41 12.069 5.0079
3 Terry 1.72 11.6667 6.7829
4 Captain Falcon 2.552 11.2903 4.4241
4 Zero Suit Samus 2.31 11.2903 4.8876
4 Sonic 3.85 11.2903 2.9326
4 Little Mac 2.464 11.2903 4.5821
8 Ridley 2.2 10.9375 4.9716
8 Joker 2.06 10.9375 5.3095
8 Sora 1.58 10.9375 6.9225
11 Yoshi 2.046 10.2941 5.0313
11 Fox 2.402 10.2941 4.2856
11 Greninja 2.288 10.2941 4.4992
11 Mii Brawler 1.92 10.2941 5.3615
15 Sheik 2.42 9.4595 3.9089
15 Zelda 1.43 9.4595 6.615
17 Mario 1.76 9.2105 5.2333
17 Pikachu 2.039 9.2105 4.5172
17 Dr. Mario 1.397792 9.2105 6.5893
17 Meta Knight 2.09 9.2105 4.407
17 Sephiroth 1.86 9.2105 4.9519
22 Young Link 1.749 8.75 5.0029
22 Corrin 1.595 8.75 5.4859
22 Inkling 1.925 8.75 4.5455
22 Hero 1.84 8.75 4.7554
26 Pichu 1.892 8.5366 4.5119
26 Diddy Kong 2.006 8.5366 4.2555
28 Wolf 1.54 8.3333 5.4113
29 Donkey Kong 1.873 8.1395 4.3457
29 Roy 2.145 8.1395 3.7947
29 Chrom 2.145 8.1395 3.7947
29 Charizard 2.2 8.1395 3.6998
29 Rosalina & Luma 1.795 8.1395 4.5346
34 Kirby 1.727 7.9545 4.606
34 Marth 1.964 7.9545 4.0502
34 Lucina 1.964 7.9545 4.0502
34 Pit 1.828 7.9545 4.3515
34 Dark Pit 1.828 7.9545 4.3515
34 Cloud 2.167 7.9545 3.6708
34 Bayonetta 1.76 7.9545 4.5196
41 Lucario 1.705 7.7778 4.5617
41 Byleth 1.43 7.7778 5.439
41 Mii Swordfighter 1.58 7.7778 4.9226
44 Pac-Man 1.672 7.6087 4.5507
45 Falco 1.619 7.4468 4.5996
45 Mr. Game & Watch 1.679 7.4468 4.4353
45 Ike 1.507 7.4468 4.9415
45 Squirtle 1.76 7.4468 4.2311
45 Piranha Plant 1.72 7.4468 4.3295
45 Mii Gunner 1.37 7.4468 5.4356
51 Ness 1.609 7.2917 4.5318
51 Snake 1.595 7.2917 4.5716
51 Lucas 1.65 7.2917 4.4192
54 Samus 1.654 7.1429 4.3185
54 Dark Samus 1.654 7.1429 4.3185
54 Ivysaur 1.595 7.1429 4.4783
54 Min Min 1.55 7.1429 4.6083
58 Jigglypuff 1.271 7 5.5075
59 Ice Climbers (leader) 1.53 6.8627 4.4855
59 Mega Man 1.602 6.8627 4.2839
59 King K. Rool 1.485 6.8627 4.6214
62 King Dedede 1.496 6.6038 4.4143
62 Olimar 1.617 6.6038 4.084
62 Kazuya 1.55 6.6038 4.2605
65 Link 1.534 6.4815 4.2252
65 R.O.B. 1.725 6.4815 3.7574
65 Incineroar 1.18 6.4815 5.4928
65 Banjo & Kazooie 2.18 6.4815 2.9732
69 Peach 1.595 6.3636 3.9897
69 Daisy 1.595 6.3636 3.9897
69 Mewtwo 2.255 6.3636 2.822
69 Shulk 1.672 6.3636 3.806
69 Isabelle 1.48 6.3636 4.2998
74 Wario 1.65 6.25 3.7879
74 Villager 1.397 6.25 4.4739
76 Bowser 1.971 5.8333 2.9596
76 Duck Hunt 1.793 5.8333 3.2534
76 Simon 1.52 5.8333 3.8377
76 Richter 1.52 5.8333 3.8377
80 Luigi 1.65 5.7377 3.4774
80 Ganondorf 1.34 5.7377 4.2819
82 Bowser Jr. 1.566 5.6452 3.6048
83 Ryu 1.6 5.5556 3.4722
83 Ken 1.76 5.5556 3.1566
85 Wii Fit Trainer 1.866 5.3846 2.8856
86 Steve 1.45 4.6667 3.2184
87 Robin 1.265 4.1667 3.2938
88 Toon Link 1.906 4.0698 2.1352
89 Palutena 2.077 3.7634 1.812