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"Violent" Ken

Ken's eighth colour is most likely a reference to his EX (LK+HP) colour from Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact (or normal Ken's two-button colour from Pocket Fighter), rather than Violent Ken's kick colour from SVC Chaos. Violent Ken's hair is white, but colour 8 in Ultimate keeps his normal hair colour, like in 2nd Impact and Pocket Fighter. --KingDDD99 (talk) 17:59, December 15, 2019 (EST)

Incineroar's blue costume, could it resemble Hydreigon?

https://serebii.net/pokedex-sm/635.shtml

It has the blue & black, as well a s bit of purple in the hands. They're also both Dark types, so what do you think? ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 14:26, October 31, 2019 (EDT)

bump ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 14:19, November 2, 2019 (EDT)

I dont know pokemon, so I cant say Lucina-is-better-than-marth (talk) 12:11, November 3, 2019 (EST)

bump ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 10:21, November 5, 2019 (EST)

I don't know, to me it seems somewhat of a stretch, especially since there's no purple on the alt, which is prominent on Hydreigon. CookiesCreme 10:24, November 5, 2019 (EST)

The purple is on the palm. ¿¡Unowninator?! (talk) 14:03, November 5, 2019 (EST)

I feel like the purple would be more prominent if it was supposed to be based on Hydreigon. Aidan, the Rurouni 14:19, November 5, 2019 (EST)

Terry's alts

Terry's brown alt is most definitely based on his appearance in Garou: Mark of the Wolves. Can someone who has the ability to edit this page add that in? I would do it, but I don't have permission to edit it since it's protected to prevent vandalism. Arqade (Talk) 20:13, November 6, 2019 (EST) Arqade (Talk) 20:13, November 6, 2019 (EST)

I was actually hopping in here to mention that exact thing. Terry’s outfit is still red in TKoF XII and XIII. Garou: Mark of the Wolves features a brown coat and slightly duller pants, like that one. The cap is blank because Terry doesn’t wear a hat in that game. ScizorSteelix 09:40, November 9, 2019 (EST)

I changed it. If someone disagrees, they can talk about it here. ScizorSteelix 19:22, November 9, 2019 (EST)

Me personally, I think it's more meant to represent the desaturated look of Terry's appearance in KOF XII and XIII. The color's not reaaaally brown, more of a duller red? It's more noticeable in-game. The duller skin-tone and pants also match this sprite more closely than the brighter equivalents in the Garou design, in my opinion. I do think it's worth noting, so would you mind compromising on listing both? ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 19:37, November 9, 2019 (EST)

Another distinguishing factor I just noticed: his belt buckle in the Smash alt is gold where it's silver in the default. Terry has a gold belt buckle in KOF XII and XIII, but a silver one in his Garou design. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 19:52, November 9, 2019 (EST)

What is brown but a dull red? But I agree it certainly looks more red in-game, though not quite to the level of XII and XIII. It’s unclear which one it’s ’’really’’ pulling from, so this is probably the best solution. ScizorSteelix 22:15, November 9, 2019 (EST)

Regarding Pokémon alts

This is a minor thing, but can we make it a rule that Pokémon alternate costumes shouldn't be taken as referencing other Pokémon unless the connection is particularly obvious (i.e., pre-evolutions or being extensively similar)? A lot of the Greninja alts on this page were stretches (pink = Lickilicky confirmed!) so I feel like it'd be good practice going forward. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 22:34, November 7, 2019 (EST)

Well, if that's the case, then I feel like someone should remove the ones on Incineroar, "referencing" Infernape and Salandit, since you won't accept the ones I did for Greninja. Sonicfan21 (talk) 21:27, November 20, 2019 (EST)

The Incineroar/Infernape one was settled by a long and arduous discussion on this wiki. Please, let's not open that can of worms again. --PeabodySam (talk) 22:01, November 20, 2019 (EST)

I feel as though the Greninja and Lickilicky example isn't representative of most random Pokemon connections. Both Greninja and Lickilicky/Lickitung prominently use their tongues, so that's an obvious connection. I do agree with the sentiment more generally, though. --Pacack (talk) 16:19, December 27, 2019 (EST)

King Dedede's purple alt

King Dedede's purple alt resembles Queen Sectonia's colors and pattern imo? Thoughts on this? Meeper12346 (talk) 19:07, November 16, 2019 (EDT)

The costume has been there since Brawl and it's more directly based on one of Dedede's alternate palettes from Air Ride, including the pink gloves; however, its palette has been changed since Brawl to incorporate more purple and yellow compared to the original gray and green, so I can absolutely see the case for this. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 19:42, November 16, 2019 (EST)

Yeah; I feel as though the deliberate change from a gray to a purple sash, a much brighter yellow on the markings and the addition of a pink outline really makes me believe that it's in direct reference to Sectonia, albeit not initially.Meeper12346 (talk) 12:06, November 17, 2019 (EDT)

Banjo & Kazooie's 7th costume

I've noticed that their 7th costume, aside from the references already there, also references the colors of "Banjo" and "Kazooie/Tooie" used for the titles of the games, I just really don't know how to put it in the reference box. Sonic, the Cheerful Speedster 16:55, December 25, 2019 (EST)