Talk:Alternate costume (SSBU)/Archive 4

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Daisy's pink costume

So there's been a bit of back and forth on whether Daisy's pink costume resembles Peach, with the page currently including a comment that it does not. I think we should probably come to a consensus about this, since it hasn't been thoroughly discussed to my knowledge.

Here are the points for and against it being a reference:

For:

  • Similar shade of pink
  • Darker pink trim toward the bottom and around the waist
  • Gold trim around the top layer

Against:

  • Orange shoes (rather than pink)
  • Purple gems (rather than blue)
  • Fades into darker pink near the bottom

There's basically equal points for and against, but I'm inclined to believe it was intentionally meant to look like her. Rosalina's pink costume is said to resemble Peach despite having differently-colored shoes and gems, and Daisy's pink costume matches Peach closer than Rosalina's does. What do you think? DryKirby64 (talk) 22:21, 22 December 2018 (EST)

I honestly think Daisy's pinkish alt has nothing to do with Peach. Looking closely, the shade on Daisy's pink alt is a more reddish, more like salmon or light crimson, with dress accents that are clearly red. Peach's pink is a lot more bubblegum pink, with rose pink accents. I'd go as far to say that Daisy's "pink" alt would've been a red alt if it weren't for the other red one with black accents. Arend (talk) 15:25, 23 December 2018 (EST)


Dark Samus's Black costume

I believe there is an inconsistency with the current "Origin" of Dark Samus's Black Alt Color. Currently, the description of the Black suit is listed as "Resembles Orange Phazon from Metroid Prime." Although the original editor of this fact may have been on to something, they needed to go just a little bit further into the Lore of Metroid Prime to find the real origin.

Dark Samus's Black Alt color is actually a reference to the creature, Metroid Prime. Metroid Prime was the final boss in "Metroid Prime" for the Nintendo Game Cube. During Phase One, Samus would fight Metroid Prime in its spider-like physical form. This form was Black with Orange accent coloring. The accent coloring would change during the fight to Red, White, Purple, and back to Orange, depending on what type of weapon Metroid Prime was using during the Phase One fight. The Black and Orange color exactly matches Dark Samus's Alt color. That and the fact that Dark Samus was born from a fusion of Metroid Prime, Phazon energy and Samus's DNA along with her Phazon Armor, as shown in the Secret 100% ending cinematic for Metroid Prime. Please see the following link for reference information regarding this fact. https://www.metroidwiki.org/wiki/Metroid_Prime_(specimen)

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I presume you're referring to these two pieces of artwork? If so, then yes: I suppose I can see the similarity there. It's also worth noting that the concept art cited as inspiration for Dark Samus's silver costume happens to use the same (or a very similar) color scheme as another piece of Metroid Prime concept art, which would support your arguemnt.
However, I will point out that this specific black/orange color palette is never actually used in-game. The Metroid Prime's "default" color scheme appears to be black/silver, as seen in the Metroid Prime's intro cutscene and in its Brawl trophy. During the battle, it switches to yellow, white, red, and/or purple, but never orange. As I said, we are already citing concept art for the silver costume, so it doesn't hurt your argument too much, but it does mean that this color scheme (existing only in artwork, not in-game) is a little more obscure than the in-game Orange Phazon. --PeabodySam (talk) 11:30, 24 December 2018 (EST)