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Simon and Trevor's alt colors

Hey guys, decided to look at all of Simon's and Richter's recolors, and given the wiki has very few for the both of them I thought I'd give my two cents
Simon's Colors

• Default
• Castlevania 2 Design (Red and Gold design from cover artwork)
• Alucard (SoTn design)
• Juste Belmont (Simon's grandson, Gray hair with red outfit, purple highlights are based on the sprite)
• Richter (Blue and white outfit with Brown Hair)
• Cornell (Purple outfit, Silver hair)
• Julius Belmont (Ginger hair, Brown and red clothing)
• Shanoa (Purple outfit, Black hair)
  

Richter's Colors

• Default
• Red (possibly the rival from bloodletting or Christopher as mentioned in the article)
• Purple (Cornell?)
• Green (Slow effect as mentioned in the article)
• Yellow (John Morris as mentioned in the article)
• Blue (possibly Charlotte Aulin or Peke)
• Black (Alucard Again)
• White (Possibly Soma Cruz based)
  

those are at least my thoughts on it BlueLeo (talk) 20:34, 4 November 2018 (EST)

Big Castlevania fan here, I think Richter's Green alt is actually referencing the Lords of Shadow incarnation of Trevor Belmont and/or Victor Belmont from LoS 2, both of who wear green. His red outfit is definitely Christopher. Also I think his yellow outfit may actually be Trevor from the US boxart of Castlevania 3 (yellow/gold armor and a red cape, represented by the red headband here).

As for Simon, his yellow/gold alt is based in his appearance in the American boxart for Super Castlevania 4 and his blue alt (appearance 5) is based on the Japanese boxart of the same game. I agree that appearance 4 is Juste and appearance 6 is Cornell. I was going to add all this info to the page but it's been locked UnReverie (talk) 23:00, 4 November 2018 (EST)

Seovania's note : I pretty much agree and found the same references overall. The only thing I'd add is that Richter's green costume seems to be a Maria reference, as it has some yellow edges on it.

Red Richter also seemed to be the Rival from the Bloodletting, either that or Jonathan Morris (although one might say it's not the same kind of red.)

The other Blue Richter might also simply be a Dracula X Chronicles reference, but I like the idea of it being a Charlotte reference more.

In fact I had a whole theory going with Simon mostly referencing Belmonts whereas Richter would reference non-Belmont important characters.

Last thing I'll add is that I found Simon's last costume might be a reference to Hector Devil Forgemaster, from Curse of Darkness.

ah yeah, I'd forgotten about the box arts containing different recolours for Simon and the others, and I've played more rondo than symphony, so I forget about maria's symphony design sometimes.

I'd also let the LoS and Ps2 games slip my mind when checking through it, haven't actually played LoS, mostly played the classics and been trying out the post SotN games

Regarding Simon, I mainly don't think that the yellow/gold one is based on the US box art of CV4 because of the hair color change, it's changed to be a quite pale blonde, and there's a fair amount of black in his color scheme. I agree the blue one is probably Richter and/or the CV4 japanese box art.

The yellow recolor of Richter could very well be based on Trevor, but I don't think they'd base it off of US box art, considering he's got a far more recognizable design in this art and the Curse of Darkness design

I also brought up the Rival from the cancelled game simply because it was something neat and more closely tied to Richter that could be related to the colors, it's just nice to see what possible correlations there are I guess BlueLeo (talk) 04:54, 8 November 2018 (EST)

Just to add a few more Richter reference possibilities: His red outfit could reference Maria as she appeared in her red dress in Rondo of Blood. Purple could be "Shaft", the antagonist from Rondo of Blood and Symphony of the Night (his sprites are very purple). Richter's yellow costume could be Julius Belmont, who wears a yellow vest and a red scarf around his neck. His second blue costume could be a reference to his appearance in Symphony of the Night, where the inner lining of his jacket is gray (like in the costume).

Should also note that someone on the main costume page got Simon's "Orange" and "Red" references backwards. "Orange" should be his Simon's Quest appearance while "Red" should be referencing his Castlevania sprite (note the brown hair). Pyitoechito (talk) 15:32, 8 November 2018 (EST)

About the "Red" recolor, I really don't think it's referencing his Castlevania Sprite, considering the outfit is colored a dark red and an orange, while his hair is a completely different tone, if it were referencing the CV1 sprite the hair would be matching the darker colour, and if it were CV2's sprite it'd be entirely different, the main reason I think that it's based on Julius is because of the Juste recolor, they based his colors on the sprite, including the purple outline on him, Julius' sprite matches to the color scheme pretty closely I think. Though I could be wrong, I don't really see it being the CV1 sprite of simon (Julius' Sprite)

I don't think that Richter's yellow costume references Julius though, considering Julius' main color is the brown. I also don't think the purple is shaft because of the lack of any green (Shaft's secondary color) on the recolor, though the blue one could be based on SotN for sure. BlueLeo (talk) 03:03, 12 November 2018 (EST)

To me, Simon's "Orange" recolor bears striking similarities to his appearance on the CV2 box art. Blonde hair and red armor with gold accents. Maybe "Red" doesn't reference his CV1 sprites, but "Orange" definitely looks a lot like his CV2 box art appearance. Also of note is that the "Red" costume has Simon's brown hair very closely matching his brown shoulder guards. Pyitoechito (talk) 13:14, 13 November 2018 (EST)

As I have already stated on the article, Simon's yellow alt is actually his appearance on the Western Super Castlevania IV box, with the purple one being based on his in-game appearance in Vampire Killer, and the Blue one actually being how he looks in Super Castlevania IV. The last one looks more like how Simon appears in Haunted Castle. As for Richter, all of them are actually from Harmony of Despair. However, the Green one is the curse effect from both Dracula X games, the Yellow one is indeed based on John Morris's concept art. But for the Cyan and Black ones, both are from the Dracula X games; Cyan is his suit shown in the opening sequence of RoB, and Black is sourced from the monochromatic ending stills from SNES Dracula X. The Purple and White ones don't reference anyone, as they are from HD. --Tailikku (talk) 00:22, 18 November 2018 (EST)