Talk:Assist Trophy
Sin & Punishment
I heard that the "Sin & Punishment" AT was actually the main character, and a male. I think his name was Saki or something? We need to get proof of this.
Little Mac
Since Little Mac has been confirmed, shouldn't we delete the link of 1up.com? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infested Terran (talk • contribs)
Yes we only need to change it to Little Mac page at dojo. also sing your post with four tildes (~ ~ ~ ~ ). --Fandangox 12:19, October 28, 2007 (EDT)
Assist Trophy Tier List
More of an idea than anything else, but wouldn't an assist trophy tier list be interesting?
Metroid
Can anyone provide a link to the gameplay video with this assist trophy? M Shark 18:24, November 20, 2007 (EST)
Duster and Princess Rosalina
Brawl Central says that they've been confirmed.--Aipom--
Infantry and Jill
These shouldn't need to be considered unconfirmed, although they did not appear on the dojo as of yet. this video clearly shows Samus holding up the assist trophy and the Infantry popping out. Then look at this video and wait until the first plummet the characters take. Jill is definitely there drilling across the screen. You have to see it to believe it. Ryu Phoenix 08:48, January 17, 2008 (EST)
Data Files
The data files, which can be found here, have a section for 'effect/assist/ef/'
Assist Trophies according to game files:
- \effect\assist\ef_ast_ridley.pac, size:128 off:2A13D400
Ridley assist trophy version
- \effect\assist\ef_barbara.pac, size:81600 off:2A13D480
Barbara the Bat (Jam with the Band! series)
- \effect\assist\ef_customrobo.pac, size:53728 off:2A151340#
Ray MK II (Custom Robo series)
- \effect\assist\ef_cyborg.pac, size:30944 off:2A15E520
Cyborg Ninja (JP) aka Gray Fox
- \effect\assist\ef_devil.pac, size:11520 off:2A165E00
Devil (Devil World series)
- \effect\assist\ef_excitebike.pac, size:7008 off:2A168B00
Excitebike (Excite series)
- \effect\assist\ef_goroh.pac, size:128 off:2A16A660
Samurai Goroh
- \effect\assist\ef_heririn.pac, size:128 off:2A16A6E0
Heririn (Kuru Kuru Kururin series)
- \effect\assist\ef_hmbros.pac, size:9824 off:2A16A760
Hammer Brothers
- \effect\assist\ef_jeff.pac, size:18336 off:2A16CDC0
Jeff Andonuts
- \effect\assist\ef_joe.pac, size:51456 off:2A171560
Knuckle Joe
- \effect\assist\ef_jugem.pac, size:128 off:2A17DE60
Jugem (JP) aka Lakitu
- \effect\assist\ef_katana.pac, size:8096 off:2A17DEE0
Kat and Ana
- \effect\assist\ef_kururi.pac, size:77600 off:2A17FE80
Kururi (JP) aka Jill
- \effect\assist\ef_lin.pac, size:39520 off:2A192DA0
Lin (JP) aka Lyn
- \effect\assist\ef_littlemac.pac, size:17568 off:2A19C800
Little Mac
- \effect\assist\ef_metroid.pac, size:66528 off:2A1A0CA0
Metroid
- \effect\assist\ef_nintendogs.pac, size:22112 off:2A1B1080
Nintendog (Nintendogs series)
- \effect\assist\ef_resetsan.pac, size:90848 off:2A1B66E0
Reset san (JP) aka Mr. Resetti
- \effect\assist\ef_robin.pac, size:18048 off:2A1CC9C0
Robin (JP) aka Isaac (Golden Sun series)
- \effect\assist\ef_saki.pac, size:65504 off:2A1D1040
Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment series)
- \effect\assist\ef_shadow.pac, size:67840 off:2A1E1020
Shadow the Hedgehog
- \effect\assist\ef_stafy.pac, size:53632 off:2A1F1920
Stafy (Legend of Stafy series)
- \effect\assist\ef_tank.pac, size:23648 off:2A1FEAA0
Tanks and Infantry (Famicom Wars series)
- \effect\assist\ef_tingle.pac, size:133216 off:2A204700
Tingle
- \effect\assist\ef_waluigi.pac, size:6944 off:2A224F60
Waluigi
- \effect\assist\ef_wright.pac, size:17632 off:2A226A80
Dr. Wright (SimCity series)
27 in Total
Pretty much deconfirms Muddy Mole, Duster, Princess Rosalina, Pegasus Knights, Sothe and Adeleine who were all based on anecdotal evidence anyway. --Wilsonator 08:02, February 3, 2008 (EST)
Is that a joke? Where is Andross? And I have yet to see a gameplay video of Ridley as an AT... Thou Hath No Honor 15:06, February 17, 2008 (EST)
Should we add how likely a character is in appearing? Because I would find it helpful. Learner3 23:16, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
List of removed Assist Trophies
Who ever said that Princess Rosalina, Tails, and Duster ATs were removed from the game? I could see Ridley being on the list as his leftover AT data was found on the game disc. There was no proof that Rosalina, Tails, and the Duster AT ever existed as an AT in Brawl. -- The Magnum Master 14:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Description
I put a brief description next to eac AT. If its not needed delete it.Fwooshlewooshle (talk) 19:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
The Rarity?
Are certain characters more likely to appear? Or are some just less likely to appear? I've rarely seen the Helirin Assist Trophy, and I think that this one is a rare one. I need help on determining if some are more likely or less likely to appear. Learner4 (talk) 17:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
stafy
his english name is starfy HYLIAN FURY (talk) 17:46, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
Metroid
If it prevents the use of recovery moves, how does it allow infinite recovery moves? Not sure which is wrong so I shan't remove either. Dazuro (talk) 06:36, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
- It cancels them a few frames in, allowing them to be instantly repeated. Miles (talk) 19:44, April 4, 2010 (UTC)
Additional Images
Does the page really need any more? The second gallery picture could be enlarged. 25T16 It's-a me! 01:35, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
"Three" third parties?
The intro says three third party Assists. Who's the third? Dr. Wright? Cause he's supposed to be owned by Nintendo. Or maybe it was by some Mega Man/Geno freak who were desperate to get either of them an article or at least a mention. :/ --RoyboyX (talk) 14:38, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
Frequency
Some Assist Trophies are definitely more common than others. For example, I've noticed that Gray Fox appears relatively rarely,a s compared to Lakitu and Spinies. Can Toomai or somebody with access to Brawl's files shed some more light on this? Mr. Anontalk 15:47, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
Series Name
I think it would help to have each AT's series name next to their character name. I would, but i don't know all of the character's series names, and i am too lazy to research it.Pokémonultimate 17:15, 26 November 2011 (EST)
Stafy in Smash 4
How come Starfy is not listed as Assist Trophy? In Brawl, he was but why not in SSB4? Dragon NJMB (talk) 03:52, 7 February 2014 (EST)
- Because it wasn't officially confirmed yet (Sakurai didn't say he was one in the screenshot with him). He is probably an assist trophy again, we just want official confirmation first though before stating it as fact on the Wiki. Also, this question should be in its own section. Omega Tyrant 05:20, 7 February 2014 (EST)
Galaga
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48280274@N02/13729380913/in/set-72157643678092364 I think this is more likely Assist Trophy then item. Bug Man Stan (talk) 13:31, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
- I "think" =/= I "know". We gain nothing from stating that they're Assist Trophies before they are officially confirmed to be so. MegaTron1XD 13:54, 15 April 2014 (EDT)
All-Star Mode
When Sakurai was introducing the Assist Trophy section of the Smash Bros. Direct he said that he wants to add as many Assist Trophies as possible because they are implemented into All-Star Mode. First of all, this confirms that All-Star Mode will return. Second of all, I feel this is a significant tidbit to add to the "Super Smash Bros. 4" section. Thoughts? Nintendo101 (talk) 18:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
- A note like the one on the all-star mode page is fine. Toomai Glittershine The Wacko 18:22, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
Waaaaluigi
Why does it say he's from the Wario series in SSB4 but the Mario series in SSBB? 1) He's never been in any Wario games 2) please be consistent, it bothers me. Nutta Butta (talk) 19:14, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
- During the Assist Trophy reveal in the Smash Direct, Waluigi was listed with a Warioware symbol. Yeah, I'm just as confused about it as you are. Omega Tyrant 19:42, 15 May 2014 (EDT)
Remember this. Sakurai loves trolling people, so this could've been his way of doing that. Or, it could be hinting at something glorious... --EpicWendigo (talk) 01:19, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
In that case can we change Brawl to be Wario too? Nutta Butta (talk) 14:28, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
- No, because he's clearly labeled as Mario universe in Brawl. Miles (talk) 18:33, 16 May 2014 (EDT)
Chunky?
Seen a rumor going around saying Chunky Kong from DK64 is an Assist Trophy in the demo, but I haven't been able to find any footage to confirm it. Anyone else seen any? Miles (talk) 18:50, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
Very interesting. Where did you hear this rumor? --EpicWendigo (talk) 19:38, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
- I don't remember which sites in particular, but I remember it being on at least two plus I heard about it from several of my friends over Skype, too. Sounds like it was more widespread than just one person claiming it. Miles (talk) 20:01, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
- That's incredible! However, we need photographic evidence of it. For now, let's put this in the rumor section if this is so widespread. --EpicWendigo (talk) 20:08, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
- We can't. Unfortunately (and no offense to Miles), Skype conversations [that aren't recorded] aren't credible and Miles doesn't have any links to said "rumors." Like Rudy the Clown, Chunky Kong lost his relevance in 2000 (every other character from DK64 has appeared in some capacity in later games), so I doubt he's going to appear anyway. blue ninjakoopa 20:14, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
- Didn't say it should be on the rumors page, nor that my conversations were a credible source. I just was asking if anybody had spotted him in footage, was all. Miles (talk) 20:16, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
- Hopefully, someone did. If so many people were talking about it, chances are there is plenty of room for credibility. --EpicWendigo (talk) 21:17, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
- Didn't say it should be on the rumors page, nor that my conversations were a credible source. I just was asking if anybody had spotted him in footage, was all. Miles (talk) 20:16, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
- We can't. Unfortunately (and no offense to Miles), Skype conversations [that aren't recorded] aren't credible and Miles doesn't have any links to said "rumors." Like Rudy the Clown, Chunky Kong lost his relevance in 2000 (every other character from DK64 has appeared in some capacity in later games), so I doubt he's going to appear anyway. blue ninjakoopa 20:14, 16 June 2014 (EDT)
- That's incredible! However, we need photographic evidence of it. For now, let's put this in the rumor section if this is so widespread. --EpicWendigo (talk) 20:08, 16 June 2014 (EDT)