User talk:Toomai/New icon comparisons

Looking Good So Far

But would it be a bother to get a different icon for the Ice Climbers in SSBM? It looks like there's an item spawning behind Nana, which doesn't look so good to me. If you think it's fine, then don't bother, but I say a different image would be beneficial. Toast ltimatum 10:20, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

That burst effect actually belongs to Belay, which was the only way I could figure to get the two far enough apart to see both faces yet close enough to be reasonably zoomed in. Toomai Glittershine The Researcher 10:50, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

They look really good. ZeldasmashFile:ZeldaSymbol.pngTalk 19:44, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

Opinions

Support

1. Strong support: Finally, a fresh coat of paint. All of the old icons were taken from some other place anyway. --Havoc48 >:D!!! 18:24, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
2. Strong support: In this way were not copying anything. :P ..... The Hydralisk 18:36, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
3. There can't be much more to add. Support Toast ltimatum 18:51, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
4. Support: I had mixed feeling when I first saw them, but now I've come to like them. Unknown the Hedgehog 18:56, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
5. Support: They look good, but Link's (Brawl) icon could have been a bit better. All look good. ZeldasmashFile:ZeldaSymbol.pngTalk 19:44, 21 March 2012 (EDT)
6. Support Captain Falcon talk 03:10, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
7. Very strong support: Although some don't have names, it'll be just as easy to understand who they are. The images also seem closer to the characters' faces. MeleeMarth01 22:00, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
8. Weak support: I don't care one way or the other, but since this is what the wiki seems to want... DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 23:02, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
9. Moderate Support: the brawl images do not need fixing. Another thing our images aren't the official ones from Nintendo (if the old ones weren't originated from there please tell me). The other two games are fine. LightningBlue: Music is Power 23:09, 22 March 2012 (EDT)
10. Support: I think they are well done overall. However, I think that the picture of the Ice Climbers together and the picture of Popo could be cause for some ambiguity. I liked the name tags, although that would be redundant now as mostly everyone who uses this site already knows the characters' names. Hawk 21File:FZeroSymbol.pngTalk 01:37, 23 March 2012 (EDT)

    The individual Ice Climbers pictures are more for completeness than anything; there's currently not much I can see that would use them (like the Zelda/Sheik icon for Melee; could be useful later, but not necessarily now). Toomai Glittershine The Victorious 07:51, 23 March 2012 (EDT)

11. Support Looks great BlindColours 17:26, 24 March 2012 (EDT)
12. Support: Looks good to me. Smash Master 21:48, 25 March 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

1. I liked having the names on the SSB & SSBM characters. The pics look worse than before (but the SSB ones, which are improved). Definitely keep the old SSBB pics. Meta Ike 21:40, 25 March 2012 (EDT)

Neutral

1. Meh. No real benefit; no real loss. They're pretty comparable to me, though I must say I really don't see the point in going through and replacing them. Miles (talk) 01:43, 23 March 2012 (EDT)

   The intent with this is to get consistency between the icons of the three games. The current system has two sets of .pngs with names and round yet non-transparent corners against one set of .gifs with a different aspect ratio and naming system - now everything is an equally-sized .png with the same borders and naming convention. Replacing them will be a pain, but that's what you have to do sometimes. Toomai Glittershine The Victorious 07:51, 23 March 2012 (EDT)

2. Support for some icons, oppose for others. RickTommy (talk) 07:10, 25 March 2012 (EDT)
3. Support, but I don't know if it's just me, but File:LinkIcon(SSBB).png has a background that is too close of a color to Link's face, which makes it hard to see if not displayed at full resolution. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 16:56, 25 March 2012 (EDT)

Question

April is soon upon us. Soon we will go about replacing old icons. I have some suggestions for this to make it easier on us;

A) Reupload the old icon pictures with the new icon pictures.

B) Delete all the old icons and rename the new ones using the old naming system to avoid browser refreshing problems.

D) Or, stick with the suggested plan of replacing each and every instance of the old icon usage.

The main reason I bring this up is last one seems rather monotonous to me. --Havoc48 >:D!!! 22:20, 30 March 2012 (EDT)

I think a good idea would be to delete the old ones and turn them into redirects, then slowly change them over a longer period of time. Toomai Glittershine The Non-Toxic 23:41, 30 March 2012 (EDT)

Let me elaborate on why your two ideas are implausible at best:

1. The old icons were ~60px at biggest, with the Brawl ones being ~50px-ish wide. As a result many of them have been used without a size specifier - which means that the new 100x100 icons will cause serious ballooning with a straight replacement.
2. Part of the reason why I did this was to replace the naming system. The Melee one had unusual shortcuts; the Brawl one was completely out of sync with the other two.
3. The old Brawl icons are .gifs, the new ones are .pngs. You cannot upload a .png into a .gif filename, and if you're saving a .png as a .gif you might as well write a story without vowels. Toomai Glittershine The Brass 17:20, 31 March 2012 (EDT)

Adding nowiki tags to user pages

To facilitate the changeover, would it be reasonable to add nowiki tags to userpages of users who are unregistered and/or inactive? This would greatly reduce the time and effort required to purge the userspace of the old icons. If any aforementioned users became active or made an account, they could simply remove the tags and switch the icons themselves. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 22:22, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

I guess that's an option, though it would significantly complicate the process of finding references to the old icons. Toomai Glittershine The Eggster 09:54, 18 April 2012 (EDT)