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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll, really, but more of a popularity contest to see who is the better fighter. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

The Rules, Briefly

Functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that week. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, just vote if you are a total fanboy of the character. You may vote only once. Once you voted, your decision is final and you cannot change your vote. If you are a user, please include your vote in the user section. If you are not a user, please include your vote in the anonymous section. It is important to do this because user votes will be 1 pts and anonymous votes will only have 1/2 a pt. Votes put in the wrong section will be deleted. Users who do not log in when they vote will be considered anonymous IPs, and their votes also will be deleted. When a new fight is created (which is every Friday), the previous fight's votes will be totaled and its winner decided. The fighter with the most votes WINS!!



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Week 11: Samus vs. Zero Suit Samus

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 Winner!!
undecided

0 to 0
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Samus first appeared in that marvel of engineering, the Power Suit. Now, her Zero Suit form has arrived to fight in the Arena!

Votes for Samus

  1. Charge Shot. Need I say more? Miles (talk) 18:15, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. ZSS is hawt, but Samus is powerful. IMO, she's alot better with her suit on than without. Blue Ninjakoopa Happy Holidays 20:00, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. Sorry, but i'm not turned on by pixels. Ike's Best BuddyMerry! Christmas!!
  4. Charge Shot dominates Paralyser and Zero Laser terminates Power Suit Samus. Only one choice here. --Toon Ganondorf (t c) 22:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
  5. As hot as ZSS may be, Samus has all her weapons and gadgetry while wearing teh suit. Samus wins. - GalaxiaD (Happy Holidays!) 00:04, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
  6. Super Missile beats ZSS's Paralyzer everyday, and it eats through Meta Knight's Mach Tornado like acid (it does, try it). -Masq (t/c/e) 03:09, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
  7. Speed and stealth can only do so much, and even a fully charged paralyzer shot will just freeze opponents momentarily. Samus with her Power Suit, on the other hand, can really hold her own. - BattleFranky202 (talk) 05:22, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
  8. Is this even a fight? I mean, really, Samus's cannons, Bombs Missles and Grapple Beam just tell who is going to win. Face it, without the Power/Varia/Gravity/X/PED/Any other Suit, Samus would be nothing.--User:Mudkipz (talk) 02:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
  9. hmmmm nah samus kills PikabroPIKACHU! 09:44, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
  10. Hmmm... A high-tech robot verses a person in a suit. I wonder who'll win... Masterman 2009 14:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
  11. Samus has better attacks, specials, and her only weakness is her slower speed over ZSS. ZSS's Final Smash had no effort put into it and it only can do so much damage. Samus's Final Smash.... flawless one-hit KO. Timson622222

Anonymous Votes

Votes for Zero Suit Samus

  1. ZSS all the way! Faster and sleeker! ;D Friedbeef1 Ho ho ho! 18:14, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. ZSS has way more potential in advanced play. You gotta love the whip! Cheezperson {talk}stuff 18:33, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. She's faster and has easier KOing attacks, imo. Dexington (talk) 16:28, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
  4. I just think that Samus in this game got a lot weaker, not to mention that she is still slower. While ZSS is weak, she is a lot faster, thus she gets my vote. ClonedPickle (talk) 21:59, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
  5. Zero Suit Samus is easy to handle! Squallinoa 08 (talk) 07:20, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
  6. ZSS is a hottie! ParaGoomba348 18:31, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
  7. I got used to this ones moves quicker then samus's, i still can't figure out how to use the missles. Plus, there is no chance mistaking ZSS's gender. Solar Flute (talk).

Anonymous Votes

  1. Technically, Zero Suit Samus is meant to be inside the Power Suit. So if she's outside of it, no-one's controlling it so it wouldn't put up a fight.
  2. Samus sucks in brawl...her smashes are friggin tilts!72.197.63.163 23:06, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments

  • Cheezperson only picked ZSS because she's higher on the tier list. Can't we all put that aside? For once? Geez... Blue Ninjakoopa Happy Holidays 22:21, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Would that matter? I said why I picked her, and we should leave it at that. No one should question a vote by another user unless they have made a factual error, or something like that. Cheezperson {talk}stuff 07:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Soz, BNK, but I agree with Cheez. Toon Ganondorf (t c)
  • To the 1st ZZS Anonymous Voter, we are counting that The Samus IS wearing the Power suit fighting her Power Suit-less Self, which Is a Paradox in a Number of ways. Also, I agree with BNK.--User:Mudkipz (talk) 02:14, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Week 10: Mewtwo vs. Lucario

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 Winner!!
TIE
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14 to 14
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Mewtwo, enraged over his removal from Smash, enters the Arena to fight against Lucario, who replaced Mewtwo on the roster. Which Pokémon merits the fighter position?

Votes for Mewtwo

  1. Mewtwo pwns Lucario with his phychic powahs! Masterman Happy Holidays!! 21:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. Mewtwo can't even be contained in a Pokeball. Only the Master Ball can contain him. What does that say about his power? --GutripperSpeak if you are worthy 22:41, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. Psychic beats Fighting. 'Nough said. Friedbeef1 Ho ho ho! 23:08, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
  4. Mewtwo should've returned, because, come on, who wouldn't want to see Mewtwo have a Final Smash? Miles (talk) 02:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  5. Dropping Mewtwo from the roster was a terrible mistake on the producer's part. Mewtwo is a great character. --Toon Ganondorf (t c) 02:51, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  6. Mewtwo sucked, but they shouldn't have dropped him. :/ --Shadowcrest 04:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  7. The only time I'd EVER vote against Mewtwo in the SA is against Roy. Mewtwo was my Main in Melee, with Roy. Mewtwo so owns Lucario's @$$, it isn't even funny. Long Live Mewtwo, and put him in SSB4--User:Mudkipz (talk) 18:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  8. This is kind of thought, since even though Lucario's a fighting type, which is weak against psychic, he is also a steel type, which is resistant to psychic attacks... Well, I vote Mewtwo, anyway, since he can learn pretty much any move, plus he could use his psychic powers to... do stuff... to Lucario. - BattleFranky202 (talk) 18:52, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  9. Although Mewtwo sucked in Melee, if he had been in Brawl, he would've killed Lucario, as he probably would've gotten changes to his moveset. -Masq (t/c/e) 01:17, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
  10. I wanted to see a Final Smash for Mewtwo. He was so much better! The Steel Avenger Taste my cold steel!
  11. Mewtwo is so much cooler than Lucario, it's not even funny. Remember, he actually managed to kill Ash, a feat that, to the best of my knowledge, has not been repeated since. He also has a magnificent evil laugh, and was the only character in Melee to actually sound evil. Bek The Conqueror (talk) 00:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
  12. I prefer Mewtwo. While Lucario's health affects his power ("The cornered rat will bite the cat."), he's lacking in one area: speed. Mewtwo has that. Sorry, but I prefer Mewtwo. Hopefully, he's in the next game (look at the Bumper, it wasn't in Melee, but returned in Brawl). MarioGalaxyTalk 21:15, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
  13. The (ahem) 2nd best in Melee - Link's Assistant 14:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)


Anonymous Votes

  1. Mewtwo rules. Don't doubt the old school pokemon!--121.220.93.142 03:07, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. Mewtwo all the way! 69.29.26.186 17:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Votes for Lucario

  1. WATCH THE POWER OF AURA! Blue Ninjakoopa Happy Holidays 21:45, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. Mewtwo had a lot of sucky moves that doesn't hit the enemy accurately. Lucario is better with his Aura power and he/it has more style ^^ Metalink187 (talk) 23:07, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. Mewtwo was SUCH a disapointment in melee! He was my fave poemon, and he sucked! Lucario's better, and he's one of mah mains. MARSHMALLOW POWER! Cheezperson {talk}stuff 23:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
  4. Wanna' know why Mewtwo isn't wearing a scouter? He was fighting Lucario for awhile, only Mewtwo started getting tired while Lucario kept on pawnchin'. It was at this point that he took out his scouter to analyze Lucario's aura. Keep in mind Lucario had survived to precisely 182%. When Mewtwo saw the reading, he flipped, and his scouter spontaneously exploded from psychic rage. So yeah, that's why. AURA OVERWHELMING! Aura-lifting, aura-palming, aura-kicking, aura-jumping, aura-sphereing, aura-spawning BABIES. This isn't your mom's power; IT'S AURA POWER! - GdDmt ( talk). 1:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  5. One, Mewtwo looks like a proper rejected lab experiment through and through (probably because he is.) Lucario's much cooler. But, when you think about it, despite their base stats, they abilities and general appearance seem somewhat similar. So...who would win this fight: dog vs. cat? Everybody knows that dogs always trample cats, so why should it be any different with Lucario and Mewtwo? I mean, when it comes down to it, Mewtwo's just a cat-like thing, whilst Lucario's more like a mutt. -- JacktonTALK 11:03, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  6. Lucario is much cooler than Mewtwo. Only noobs use Ubers anyway. Dexington (talk) 18:20, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  7. The Force (Aura) is with Lucario! Neo Metal Sonic 13:04, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
  8. Watch in awe at the awe-ra! Ike's Best BuddyMerry! Christmas!!
  9. Lucario has a better down special. Solar flute (talk)
  10. Out with the bad, in with the good. Lucario was a welcome change. - GalaxiaD (Happy Holidays!) 20:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous Votes

  1. Lucario is an awesome character! He would pound Mewtwo anyday. 220.253.108.191 00:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. Lucario becomes stronger when damaged using his Aura whilst Mewtwo stays weak and only becomes easier to KO.
  3. If Mewtwo was in Brawl, he'd be incredibly floaty and even easier to hit. And Lucario's fairly high on the tier list. 220.253.194.240 09:58, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
  4. Lu-ca-rio!
  5. Mew2 was weak in Melee. Not worth playing 20 hours or 700 matches of VS mode. 114.198.45.16 08:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
  6. The Aura overpowers Mewtwo anyday.
  7. I hate Mewtwo. Wasted my life trying to unlock him.
  8. Aura Sphere>Shadow Ball 220.253.204.177 03:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Do we say "he" or "it" ? Mewtwo doesn't have any gender and Lucario can be male or female. What do you think about it ? Metalink187 (talk) 23:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

No. Mewtwo is a male, as confirmed in the anime, and Lucario is a male in Brawl.Blue Ninjakoopa Happy Holidays 23:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Freid beef1... Lucario's Phychic 2... Masterman Happy Holidays!! 23:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

You would think... but really, he's primary Fighting, secondary Steel. He can learn Psychic moves (I think, not sure), but he is NOT Psychic of primary or secondary types. Friedbeef1 Ho ho ho! 23:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Nintendo REALLY didn't think about Lucario did they? Masterman Happy Holidays!! 02:42, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Anime is non-canon. --Shadowcrest 04:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
He definitely sounds masculine. --GutripperSpeak if you are worthy 05:44, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

They are reasonably balanced. Both can learn Aura Sphere and aura based moves like Dark Pulse, and they both learn Psychic and other Psychic-moves like Me First. Types don't excactly matter, because Mewtwo's Psychic hits Lucario regularly but can always use Aura Sphere or Focus Blast, while Lucario has Dark Pulse or Crunch. It's just the fact that Mewtwo is a super-powerd Uber and Lucario's a lower-end Standard Pokemon. But Smash appears to have changed all that. Plus, Lucario has a unique typing. Oh, and there are many Mewtwo's in the games and like Shadowcrest said, the anime is NOT canon. Mewtwo is genderless ~(or varied, like PIkachu, Lucario etc, because they are so many.) -- JacktonTALK 11:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Nope. Mewtwo is male. So is Lucario. Anime is kinda stupid, but they do it rite sometimes. By the way, Mewtwo's worst stat is his Special defense. Lucario could do alot of damage with dark pulse, although it wouldn't be a one-hit KO. Did any of you know that Lucario's D-smash is based off of Dark pulse? Blue Ninjakoopa Happy Holidays 15:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

It looks like Lucario's going to win by non-user votes ._. -Masq (t/c/e) 13:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

They're only worth half. Don't fret none. Blue Ninjakoopa Happy Holidays 16:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
And yet... the non-user votes are still winning it for Lucario, even though they are only worth half. Go figure. Bek The Conqueror (talk) 21:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Ha! My vote tied the score! The Steel Avenger Taste my cold steel!

IPs always vote 4 people i don't want 2 win. :'( Masterman Happy Holidays!! 00:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
Some IPs are just mean. Blue Ninjakoopa Happy Holidays 01:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
You're right BNK. We need a petition that stops everyone that uses an IP address to get on the Internet from getting on Smashwi- Oh... that's right... Friedbeef1 Ho ho ho! 01:23, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

OMG, it's 11.5 all... and it's only Sunday! Friedbeef1 Ho ho ho! 03:41, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, look at all of those IP's voting for Lucario... Curse you IP's! -Masq (t/c/e) 08:30, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Did you notice that this is gonna be the first draw if no-one posts any vote till Friday ? Those IP's votes should not be cursed ^^ Metalink187 (talk) 08:53, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
How? The score is 12.5 - 13.5 Lucario. -Masq (t/c/e) 09:11, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Er-... Small mistake. ^^' Sorry. Metalink187 (talk) 13:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Dear Jackton, Mewtwo is not a cat, but a kangaroo. Lucario is a coyote. Blue Ninjakoopa Happy Holidays 13:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Huh? That's the first time I've heard Mewtwo being called a kangaroo. But know you come to mention it...there is a similarity. No wait, that's just silly. Meh, anyway, looks like this is as close a fight as any of them are gonna get! I'm actually hoping for a tie, any other result could get messy... -- JacktonTALK 14:03, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

The vote unsigned in the mewtwo column was me typing in for LA Ike's Best BuddyMerry! Christmas!!

Wow, 13.5 all. I haven't seen a fight this close since C. Falcon vs. Snake. - GalaxiaD (Happy Holidays!) 21:17, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE: Lucario is winning by 1 IP address (.5). With only a few hour left, this is going down to the wire! Cheezperson {talk}stuff 03:30, 26 December 2008 (UTC) CORRECTION:The score is tied at 14 all... Is this gonna be our first tie? Friedbeef1 Ho ho ho! 18:04, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

LOL, it was A Tie, atleast Lucario didn't win.--User:Mudkipz (talk) 02:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


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