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Revision as of 11:21, March 28, 2015

Zelda
in Project M and Project+
Zelda SSBB.jpg
ZeldaSymbol.svg
Universe The Legend of Zelda
Base game appearance Brawl
Moveset inspiration Zelda (SSBM), Zelda (SSBB)
Alternate costume Ocarina of Time Zelda
Zelda (SSBB)
Zelda's Ocarina of Time Costume in Project M 3.5
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Zelda is a playable character in the Brawl mod Project M. She was one of the most buffed characters from Melee and Brawl, going from being a low/bottom tier character in both Melee and Brawl to one of the more viable characters in Project M, making her a viable fighter for the first time without need of Sheik.

Attributes

Similar to Bowser, Zelda was significantly buffed in Project M. General buffs include better KO power for her magic moves, as well as increased combo potential for weak moves, and her special moves are more efficient and can be canceled earlier. In addition, the return of the Melee physics greatly cover up her weak points, most notably survivability.

Changes from Melee and Brawl to PM

  • Buff Forward and up smashes link much better; while the latter uses its superior Brawl format with reduced hitlag, the former has more favorable angles for the multiple hits, both hitting faster and with fewer freeze frames.
  • Buff Neutral aerial's multiple hits link into each other much better, and the hitboxes are larger.
  • Buff Zelda's Lightning Kicks have two sweetspots: a larger Melee sized one that is weaker than in Melee but still deals good knockback and damage, and Brawl sized sweetspots that are extremely powerful. They also have an electric flub sourspot and a body hitbox sourspot, both dealing decent damage, so the move is still effective at either damaging or KOing no matter where it hits.
  • Buff Up aerial has an early hitbox at the base of her fingertips which deals weak electric damage and links into her up air sweetspot. The explosion also deals more damage if it hits at the center.
  • Buff Down aerial has also been made to sweetspot on grounded opponents in addition to aerial opponents. While the sourspot deals stronger damage, the sweetspot is significantly stronger than in Brawl, and both are more powerful on aerial foes.
  • Buff Nayru's Love is land cancelable after the attack frames end, and while the ground version has no such cancel, it posseses improved invulnerability.
  • Buff Din's Fire no longer causes helplessness.
  • Buff Farore's Wind can air dodge to interrupt teleporting from the ground, giving Zelda the ability to waveland or pseudo-wavedash any time during the duration of the move. The dissapearance hitbox also has its Melee power, and its start-up lag has been reverted to its Melee self.
  • Buff Can act out of Transform sooner, like Sheik.
  • Buff Pummel now does 4% damage (1% more than average pummels) per use, racking up damage better.
  • Buff Back throw is significantly stronger and is one of the strongest throws in the game.
  • Buff Up throw has decreased knockback, so it can now be used to chaingrab opponents.
  • Buff Down throw deals more damage and is drastically faster.
  • Nerf Reappearance hitbox of Farore's Wind deals weaker damage.
  • Nerf Up throw deals less damage.
  • Change Din's Fire functions significantly differently. Upon releasing a fireball, instead of quickly exploding it stops and hangs in the air for several seconds before exploding, and upon making contact with a foe, it inflicts damage and vanishes. Using the move again will bring the fireball back to Zelda, hurting opponents that it hits. In addition to these changes, the control of fireballs is massively increased. After a fireball is suspended for too long, it will explode (like the original attack), possesing wide hitboxes that deal strong knockback. Using Transform will also force it to explode.
  • Change Most magic attacks were given additional sparkles, denoting their increased strength.
  • Change Spot dodge was given magical sparkling graphics.
  • Change Like Transform, down taunt now emits the characteristic "Puzzle Solved" jingle from Zelda games.
  • Change Up taunt's magical swirl and side taunt's fireball now both have damaging hitboxes.

Revisions

2.5b

  • Neutral attack:
    • Buff Priority on hitboxes altered to work better on heavyweights' hitstun animations.
    • Buff Linking hits use slightly negative angles, which prevents landing animations from being triggered on very slightly sloped areas which can cause the rest of the move to whiff.
    • Change Some animations and graphics cleaned up.
  • Dash attack:
    • Change Animation adjusted to be closer to Melee.
    • Change Angle on sweetspot adjusted to be like other, similar attacks.
  • Forward tilt:
    • Buff Tipper hitbox adjusted in knockback and SDIability slightly to be more conducive to combos.
    • Buff Hitboxes adjusted to give proper spacing for tipper hitbox.
    • Change Hit sound effects adjusted for sweetspots.
  • Up tilt:
    • Nerf Hit duration reduced by 1 frame for visual corrections.
    • Change Graphical effects edited to match the new timings.
    • Change Launch has less base knockback but more growth, dealing less knockback at lower damages but more at higher damage.
    • Change Launch angle of first half of the attack raised slightly.
  • Forward smash:
    • Buff Linking hits use slightly negative angles, which prevents landing animations from being triggered on very slightly sloped areas which can cause the rest of the move to whiff.
    • Buff Has a new linking hitbox far inside her only intended to prevent whiff issues close-in on heavyweights.
    • Nerf Innermost hitboxes on linking hits have reduced hitlag.
    • Change Launch hit has less base knockback but more growth, dealing less knockback at lower damages but more at higher damage, also taking greater effect with smash charge.
  • Up smash:
    • Buff Final hit has slightly increased base knockback.
    • Buff Linking hits have slightly reduced SDI capacity, enough for opponents to control launch point when hit by the move but never enough to escape it in any normal circumstances.
    • Change Hit sound effects on linking hits altered to be softer.
  • Lightning Kicks:
    • Buff Melee sized sweetspots (first frame) regained a bit more of their old damage and knockback power.
    • Buff Melee sized electric flubs (later frames) now use average KO move values instead of the non-magical sourspot values.
    • Buff Back aerial's critical sweetspot deals slightly more knockback and shield damage.
    • Change Non-magical sourspots have more effectual damage and knockback growth values, but don't lead into the sweetspots as easily.
  • Up aerial:
    • Buff Fire hitboxes have slightly more base knockback.
    • Buff Has very slightly increased shield damage on large fire hitbox.
    • Change Hit sound effect of fire sweetspot upgraded.
  • Down aerial:
    • Buff Sweetspot now deals extra shield damage.
    • Buff Damage and knockback growth against grounded targets significantly increased.
    • Buff Knockback growth against aerial targets slightly increased.
    • Buff Thigh flub hitbox has slightly improved power and combo potential from ground bounces.
    • Nerf Sweetspot duration reduced.
    • Change Graphics altered to better match the presence of the sweetspot.
    • Change Animation adjusted for the hitboxes to be aligned with the axis for its hit duration.
  • Nayru's Love:
    • Buff Grounded version of the move deals more damage.
    • Buff Aerial version of the move has quicker intangibility startup, equal to ground version.
    • Nerf Size of the last hitbox on aerial version was reduced to be consistent with the linking hits.
    • Change Knockback on aerial version adjusted slightly; it has less base knockback but more growth to induce tumbling later.
    • Change Grounded Nayru's is visually larger, and aerial Nayru's visually smaller to better show their hitbox size difference.
  • Din's Fire:
    • Buff Travel speed was slightly increased.
    • Nerf Has slightly lower maximum channel time.
    • Nerf Projectile starts out smaller, while ending size is unchanged.
    • Change Damage growth with travel duration on explosion hitbox altered slightly, now does a minimum of 10% and a maximum of 20%.
    • Change Explosion hitbox has slightly more base knockback and slightly less knockback growth for combo purposes.
  • Farore's Wind:
    • Buff Landing lag reduced.
    • Buff Aerial reappearance transitions properly into helpless state.
  • Other:
    • Buff Pivot grab's hitbox size increased, now being able to grab very low crouching targets.
    • Nerf Forward throw slightly reduced in knockback growth.
    • Change Down throw graphical effects altered to look more similar to Melee.
    • Change Neutral aerial's graphical effects terminate earlier, closer to when the move stops hitting.
    • Change Zelda's Transform graphical effects adjusted to better match their timing.
    • Change Light Arrow uses a new Light element.

2.6b

  • Buff Up tilt knockback increased very slightly.
  • Buff Up smash's lifting hitboxes fine tuned to not throw certain characters out of the move after several connected hits. The move also has another linking hit, dealing 1% more damage.
  • Buff Lightning Kicks' flub damage increased slightly to be closer to Melee's, along with adjusted knockback to compensate for this. Critical sweetspots were slightly increased in size to offer more consistency, while still being tiny (2/3 the size of Rest). Non-critical electric hits have increased damage/knockback, closer to their Melee iterations.
  • Buff Critical sweetspot of back aerial has slightly more base knockback. Non-critical forward aerial's hitboxes have slightly lower launch angle, similar to the critical hit, but not quite as potent.
  • Buff Up aerial's sweetspot size minutely increased, while the weak electric hit was slightly improved, and graphical effects/sound effects were edited for more accuracy.
  • Buff Down aerial has somewhat increased shield damage and a bigger sweetspot, and more knockback growth against grounded targets. Sourspot damage was also increased slightly.
  • Buff Forward and down throws' damage increased slightly.
  • Buff Din's Fire's flashing graphics loop one more time than previously. Minimum time to set is slowed down, and set animation has its lag increased to deter walling. The explosions are significantly larger and deadlier.
  • Nerf Up smash's IASA frames are no longer increased from those of Melee, but equal to them.
  • Change Neutral attack's launching hitbox has a higher angle, along with slightly higher base knockback and less knockback growth.
  • Change Neutral aerial inflicts a consistent damage output depending on number of hits rather than their placement.
  • Change Graphical effects on grabs adjusted.
  • Change Din's Fire's set fireballs have smaller hitboxes, but these activate sooner after setting the projectile.
  • Change Transform's startup is faster, and its intangibility was adjusted slightly, but its interruptibility also occurs slower.

3.0

  • Buff Nayru's Love's final grounded hit has normalized SDI modifiers.
  • Buff Up taunt's hitboxes pull enemies in further towards Zelda.
  • Nerf Forward tilt's sweetspots have less knockback growth.
  • Nerf Forward air's critical sweetspot has slightly less knockback growth.
  • Nerf Back air's critical sweetspot has slightly less base knockback.
  • Nerf Nayru's Love's aerial land cancel has slightly more lag.
  • Nerf Din's Fire static hitboxes inflict less damage (6% as opposed to 8%).
  • Change Transform now detonates all current fireballs on the screen.

3.5

  • Buff Din's Fire is larger and more powerful.
    • Nerf The number of fireballs that can be on the screen at one time has been reduced from 3 to 1.
  • Nerf Pummel's damage has gone from 4% to 3%.
    • Buff However, it is slightly faster.
  • Nerf All throws cause less damage.
  • Nerf Both Lightning Kicks' critical sweetspots have been removed.

Moveset

Up to date as of version 3.5.

Name Damage Description
Neutral attack 2 hits of 2%, then 1 hit of 3% Zelda extends one arm. A circular magical spark appears at the end of it, hitting up to three times. Disjointed with decent range.
Forward tilt 14% (sweetspot) 9% (sourspot) Zelda steps forward and slashes one arm in front of her, with a trail of sparkles. The attack has moderate knockback. The attack sends enemies behind Zelda. Can be angled.
Up tilt 15% (clean) 13% (late) A surprisingly powerful attack wherein Zelda sweeps her hand above her to launch enemies away
Down tilt 10-11% Zelda crouches and stabs one foot forward. This attack can meteor smash. It also has a chance to trip the enemy, and easily combos with itself or Zelda's quick down smash.
Dash attack 13% (clean) 7% (late) Zelda lunges herself forward in a pushing motion, attempting to crash into the enemy
Forward smash 1% (first 4 hits) 13% (final hit) 17% total uncharged, 1-2% (first 4 hits), 18% (final hit) 23% total fully charged Zelda extends her hands with a thrust, and a burst of sparkles appears. If an enemy is hit by this, it shocks them multiple times before launching them away with high knockback. Quick, with large range. However it can be escaped from with good SDI.
Up smash 1% (11 hits) 4% (12th hit), 16% if all hits connect uncharged, 1-2% (11 hits) 5% (12th hit) 20% fully charged if all hits connect Waves her hand in an arch above her three times. This move is powerful. However it can be SDI'd out of.
Down smash 12-13% (front kick) 13% (back kick) uncharged, 16% (front kick) 17% (back kick) fully charged Zelda kicks along the ground in front of her and then behind her. This smash comes out very quickly and powerfully knocks enemies away horizontally. Zelda is able to hit a bomb in front of her with this move without taking any damage.
Neutral aerial 2% (first 5 hits) 5% (6th hit) 15% if all hits connect Zelda spins around quickly, releasing short bursts of light magic from her hands.
Forward aerial Lightning Kick 19% (first frame), 16% (late hit), 8% (leg/body) A quick kick forward. Is extremely weak and doesn't KO until over 300% if the kick isn't sweetspotted, but is extremely powerful if the sweetspot at the tip of her foot connects and can KO as early as 80% on heavyweights if used near the blastlines.
Back aerial Lightning Kick 18% (first frame), 15% (late hit), 8% (leg/body) Same as Zelda's forward aerial, except the opposite direction and comes out three frames earlier.
Up aerial 5% then 17% (center) or 14% (bottom) Zelda throws one hand up, and a small trail of sparkles extends to a point above her where it shortly explodes and launching the enemy upward. Has a hitbox at startup that sends the enemy upward into the explosion afterward.
Down aerial Ground: 18%, 8% (sourspot); Air: 20%, 9% (sourspot) Zelda sticks one foot out beneath her. Like her forward & back aerials, if this hits within the first couple of frames with the foot, it causes a pause in the opponent's movement, then deals high damage and meteor smashes the opponent straight downwards very fast. If the opponent is grounded, it does slightly less damage and causes the enemy to bounce off the ground and into the air.
Grab Grabs her enemy with both hands.
Pummel 3% Discharges magic into the enemy. A very slow pummel.
Forward throw 10% Magically twirls opponent and throws them forward.
Back throw 11% Magically twirls opponent behind herself and tosses them. Strongest knockback out of all her throws.
Up throw 8% Magically twirls opponent above her head, then releases them upward.
Down throw 5 hits, 14% total Throws the enemy on the ground and shocks them repeatedly with magical bursts. The enemy will end up behind Zelda. While it is easily DI'd away to prevent any follow-ups, it has very good follow-ups if the opponent DIs wrong. At the edge of the stage, she can set up an early edge guard.
Floor attack (front) 6% Zelda swings her legs around from back to front, hitting enemies on both sides of herself.
Floor attack (back) 6% Zelda swings her legs around from back to front, hitting enemies on both sides of herself.
Floor attack (trip) 5% Zelda swings her legs from front to back, hitting enemies on both sides of herself.
Edge attack (fast) 7% Zelda climbs up and swings her legs in a circular motion, while pulling herself up.
Edge attack (slow) 8-11% Zelda raises up slowly, and after a short pause, smacks the enemy with the back of her hand.
Neutral special Nayru's Love 2% (5 hits) 4% (6th hit) 14% total on ground. 1% (5 hits) 3% (6th hit) 8% total in air. A quick multi-hitting move that also can function as a reflector.
Side special Din's Fire 6% if hit after release or while suspended in the air, 11-20% on explosion Casts a fireball that explodes in a few seconds. The longer the hitbox is out, the bigger the ending explosion will be. The fireball slows down the longer the setting animation is held.
Up special Farore's Wind 4% (both hits) Teleports in a given direction.
Down special Transform 0% Transforms into Sheik, detonates any undetonated Din's.
Final Smash Light Arrow 42% Draws a large bow and sets an arrow. During this time, any characters in her line of sight will flinch. A second later, the Light Arrow is released, dealing significant damage and likely KO'ing the struck characters. Goes through walls.

In competitive play

Notable players

Alternate costumes

Zelda now has an alternate costume that is more closely based off her appearance in Melee, which itself was based off her appearance in The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Oddly, the Brawl color palette which references the design featured in the alternate costume stays, despite Ganondorf's Ocarina Of Time based palette swap being replaced with the default color for his alternate costume, which is again based off of his Ocarina design.

Zelda's alternate costumes in PM
ZeldaHeadSSBB.png ZeldaHeadRedSSBB.png ZeldaHeadBlueSSBB.png ZeldaHeadPinkSSBB.png ZeldaHeadGreenSSBB.png ZeldaHeadBlackSSBB.png ZeldaHeadOoTPM.png

Trivia

  • Two players can use the same costume for Zelda (and Sheik) as long as one chooses Zelda and the other chooses Sheik with the corresponding palette swap (i.e. default costumes or team colors). This is likely an oversight as a result of being able to choose Zelda and Sheik separately. Upon exiting the results screen and going back to the character select screen, one of the character portraits will use a different alternate costume instead.

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