Talk:Ridley

wait, whoops, never mind. wrong move. damned vandals :p – MaskedMarth ^{(t c)} 20:46, November 19, 2007 (EST)

Too much mixing of smash games?

Seriously, we mention him in Melee before smash 64. We should go through Ridley's appearances from smash game to smash games, agreed???... -Johnknight1 23:55, February 22, 2008 (EST)

Meta Ridley

Just wondering where we stand on this: are they two separate bosses that need separate articles, or should this article talk about both? Either way, there's a Meta Ridley picture[1] that needs to be used for it. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 05:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I say put them together, they are essentially the same fight other than the time limit and a few attack patterns. - Gargomon251 10:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Nintendo Power article

hey guys, it's SMASH-Antimatter. can't log in, don't have the time, but feel like mentioning something i noticed in the newest nintendo power.

exerpt from nintendo power interview with Masashiro Sakurai, creator of Kirby and Smash Bros.

NP: There was a rumor at one point about Ridley being playable. Was that ever a consideration? S: I think that would probably be impossible.[laughs] If we had put our best efforts into it, we may have been able to do it. But he might have been a little slow. Would that have been all right? [laughs]

98.209.79.169 19:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

wow

he is that smart? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.241.247.30 (talk • contribs) 17:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Ridley...an Assist Trophy?

So, as we all know, the game's files have been dumped for easy viewing, yes? Well, looking through it, I noticed a listing (under the assist trophy section) for a Ridley assist. Maybe it should be mentioned that at one point he was going to be an assist? (Mario66 21:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC))

Wait a sec...

Since when was Ridley able to talk?! 24.144.54.204 17:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to answer so late but Ridley talked only in the Manga, which isn't canon to the series.Drakkon64 (talk) 13:11, 25 November 2011 (EST)

Picture of RIDLEY

I have a pic of RIDLEY on ssb 64

Poll

"On the official Japanese polls Ridley was voted for 4 times to be playable. The highest vote was for King Dedede with 5" What polls does this refer to? Oni Dark Link 17:22, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

How

Tell me exactly how Jiggs can OHKO Ridley. King KirbyD 16:21, 25 April 2012 (EDT)

Where did you get that idea from? I don't see it in the article anywhere. Toomai Glittershine The Breegull 16:46, 25 April 2012 (EDT)

Jigglypuff is the only character that Ridley can 1 hit-KO - You've got it the wrong way round. Toast ltimatum 17:08, 25 April 2012 (EDT)

If Ridley is playable

Will this page be split into Ridley (Boss) and Ridley (SSB4)? Not something we have to worry aobut yet but I just get curious 86.151.82.105 08:38, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

No, the boss information would be at Ridley and the fighter information would be at Ridley (SSB4). Awesome Cardinal 2000 10:52, 25 August 2013 (EDT)

"Speculation"

None of my edit was at all "speculative":

"However, the nature in which Sakurai has ambiguously alluded to Ridley"

This is fact, the whole handling of Ridley is the exact definition of ambiguous.

Definition of ambiguous: Open to multiple interpretations; vague and unclear. This applies to the situation with Ridley, this is fact.

"without outright confirming his role as he does with other popularly-requested non-playable characters"

This is fact, other NPCs are flatout shown with their role stated or clearly shown. This is not the case for Ridley.

"nor even referring to him by name directly"

You show me one instance where Sakurai referred to Ridley by name, as he does willy-nilly with NPCs, while routinely evades with unrevealed playable characters. This is fact.

"and the suspicious nature of the shadow itself (which has been observed with jerky and sudden movement similar to that of a playable character, instead of the smooth and telegraphed animations of a boss character)"

Actually look at how the shadow moves, look at what other people observed about it, and then compare it to how all the other bosses move. This is fact.

"leaves it highly unclear if Ridley is actually a stage boss of Pyrosphere, or if this has been teasing of Ridley as a playable character in a vein similar to Palutena's teasing."

Ridley has not been confirmed as anything, and the whole handling of it is the exact definition of ambiguous. This is fact. And the comparison to Palutena is factual, as she was a character that has been repeatedly teased in much the same way as Ridley. In fact, just look at Pic of the day quote when Palutena's Temple was revealed:

"Pic of the day. You can find this statue of the Goddess of Light in one of the stages. She's watching over the arena."

Compared to the Pyrosphere reveal:

"Pic of the day. Out of the blue, here's a new stage--the Pyrosphere from Metroid: Other M! An enemy from Samus's past may appear at any second…"

Pretty damn similar, don't you think? While down to evading saying their names. And this is something that is being discussed to death within the Smash community, just look at Ridley's thread on Smashboards and how massive it is. This is a highly discussed and contentious matter that is clearly notable and should be recognised.

My edit as such was not "speculation", it states the facts of the whole ambiguous handling of Ridley throughout Smash 4, which is completely unusual from the typical handling of non-playable characters, and recognising a significant point of contention within the Smash community. Now don't be dumb Miles, this is legitimate information, explaining the whole ambiguous handling of Ridley, which as clearly shown, is a big point of discussion within the Smash community. Omega Tyrant 00:03, 19 June 2014 (EDT)

Are you really going to make me do the wall-of-text back at you?

""However, the nature in which Sakurai has ambiguously alluded to Ridley"

Nothing is ambiguous about a section of the Smash Direct titled "Yellow Devil" which strictly serves to clarify and explain the new concept of a stage boss. There isn't any room for alternate interpretation.

"without outright confirming his role as he does with other popularly-requested non-playable characters"

"Popularly-requested" is subjective.

"nor even referring to him by name directly"

So? Are you going to claim this kind of nonsense for every other character not explicitly name-dropped?

"and the suspicious nature of the shadow itself (which has been observed with jerky and sudden movement similar to that of a playable character, instead of the smooth and telegraphed animations of a boss character)"

Subjective nature of what is "jerky and sudden" aside, Ridley had rather erratic motions as a boss in Brawl; it's hardly out of place for that sort of behavior to return.

"leaves it highly unclear if Ridley is actually a stage boss of Pyrosphere, or if this has been teasing of Ridley as a playable character in a vein similar to Palutena's teasing."

"Highly" is subjective, and you have zero conclusive evidence that Ridley is playable or being "teased" as such.

I understand the subject is a big deal to fans, but so what? We have to report the facts, not what people want or what they throw together to try and keep open a loophole for a 99+% deconfirmed character. Miles (talk) 00:16, 19 June 2014 (EDT)

(proceeds to make popcorn) This should be interesting. --EpicWendigo (talk) 00:20, 19 June 2014 (EDT)

In all seriousness, I find that Omega has some points to make. Ridley was handled in an ambiguous fashion. However, it's still speculation concerning Ridley's role in the game, so if you're going to add anything, add the ambiguity part, but nothing too speculative. --EpicWendigo (talk) 00:44, 19 June 2014 (EDT)