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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you don't have to have an account to vote! Though new requests for fights can no longer be made, voting on already existing requests can be done here.

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Round 211: Dr. Mario vs. Young Link

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
Two clones that see more tournament success than their originals and didn't get to appear in more than one game. Does the extra speed or extra power make the difference?
Votes for Dr. Mario Always liked him more. He's "better" anyway. c: Scr7(talk · contribs) 09:56, 2 November 2013 (EDT) The fist. Also, Shroomed. Also, I find Dr. Mario to be much much more interesting to watch at high level play, while Armada v.s. Hungrybox as Young Link is campy as hell. I also like playing as Doc better, so why not? --Timson622222 (talk) 15:54, 2 November 2013 (EDT) I'm sick and need a doctor. And how is Young Link different from Link? SeanWheeler (talk) 16:34, 2 November 2013 (EDT) Dr. Mario is actually my favorite melee character. I always unlock him first.--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 17:17, 2 November 2013 (EDT) I have no idea how Young Link is higher tiered than Link.71.118.248.217 18:02, 2 November 2013 (EDT) Because: Nurse Peach, Megavitamins, high tier placement, the series' only reverse sex kick, awesome headgear, a swaggin'-ass Taunt, and that sweet, sweet Fist... :3 Oasidu (talk) 23:51, 2 November 2013 (EDT) And both are clones of my mains. Dr. Mario is closer to Mario than Young Link is to Toon Link, so I guess I'm voting this way. Toast ltimatum 16:38, 4 November 2013 (EST) Meh. I just prefer Doc. MarioGalaxy (talk) 13:56, 5 November 2013 (EST) For some reason, seems less of a clone to me.TheAtomicFire 17:51, 6 November 2013 (EST) Young Link is the character I play the worst as in Melee. 86.153.101.92 04:50, 8 November 2013 (EST) Dr. Mario was so good they had to take him out of Brawl, whereas Young Link got cloned again! Jellybeanman (talk) 17:37, 8 November 2013 (EST) Dr. Mario and Link are similar; they are (obviously) better than Mario and Young Link, respectively (and they can both juggle better, LOL). Go Dr. Mario! Requiem fo Ice (talk) 20:15, 8 November 2013 (EST) Dr. Mario is higher tier. Plus, I've always been more familiar with the Mario series. So, Dr. M gets my vote.108.203.57.231 23:21, 9 November 2013 (EST) I like the Mario universe better than the Link universe. 24.55.13.140 19:52, 10 November 2013 (EST) Time for your daily medication! 76.19.111.57 17:46, 11 November 2013 (EST)			Votes for Young Link The Hero of Time is overpowered in speedruns, he can even beat Ganon with a pointed stick. :P Dots The G-Man 10:19, 2 November 2013 (EDT) 75.156.151.217 12:34, 2 November 2013 (EDT) Dr. Mario The Plumber is not my main on melee, young link the elf is. --Igor The Mii (talk) 19:30, 2 November 2013 (EDT) He's way more important in Nintendo's history than Doc. Sloth (I am NOT Sloth) 20:23, 2 November 2013 (EDT) Pity vote. 192.197.128.18 10:41, 4 November 2013 (EST) Cute94.98.240.14 12:31, 4 November 2013 (EST) never played ssbm,but link is better{This message is brought to you by MetaMewtwoSoul} 16:35, 4 November 2013 (EST) Link, no matter what. 107.211.34.20 20:51, 5 November 2013 (EST) This song is so soothing. ChuckNorris 21:03, 5 November 2013 (EST) Young Link is like one of the best characters in the game. He has Fire Arrows and can meteor smash with his down aerial if they hit the hilt of his sword.71.32.85.36 00:30, 8 November 2013 (EST) Young Link, he is too fun to play as.174.31.177.29 05:46, 9 November 2013 (EST) Young Link is good, his spin attack is ridiculous.Beckstat (talk) 05:50, 9 November 2013 (EST) Young Link is the best with items.Rapheel (talk) 01:55, 10 November 2013 (EST) Young Link comes from a better game.Launcher (talk) 06:34, 10 November 2013 (EST) Fire arrows! --Dinoboy411 (talk) 21:25, 10 November 2013 (EST) Young Link has better combos.Freekko (talk) 08:26, 11 November 2013 (EST)
Comments Young Link and Dr.Mario are both SUPER clones. But (this time,) I prefer speed over strength.EpicLuigiDude (talk) 07:40, 3 November 2013 (EST) There's a decent chance I won't be capable of uploading a new round this week, just so you know. Toomai Glittershine The Awesome 08:36, 8 November 2013 (EST) Dr. Mario is quite the challenge when playing against someone. Requiem fo Ice (talk) 20:20, 8 November 2013 (EST) The comments section is probably not the place to post your opinions. Creating another forum about it is probably the better place. Dots (talk) The Kirby 20:24, 8 November 2013 (EST) Ah, okay. I will actually change it, then. Thanks for informing me. Requiem fo Ice (talk) 20:28, 8 November 2013 (EST) @Requiem of Ice: Young Link is actually ranked higher than Link on the tier list... Scr7(talk · contribs) 06:03, 9 November 2013 (EST) That was a terrible mistake. I see NOTHING that could make Young Link better than Link. Sure, Young Link may be faster and smaller, but that's just it, nothing else from my POV. Requiem fo Ice (talk) 12:47, 9 November 2013 (EST) I see that it's your opinion though. By the way, Smash Arena isn't for arguments, so we shouldn't continue this. I was just pointing it out Scr7(talk · contribs) 12:49, 9 November 2013 (EST) Of course; I did get a bit carried away. Requiem fo Ice (talk) 13:07, 9 November 2013 (EST) imo I think that YL is higher because of Armada and Axe mostly, not much else (lack of representation is what brings Link down) --Timson622222 (talk) 16:52, 9 November 2013 (EST) Well, lack of representation shouldn't really be what makes a character good or bad; it should/always is how people play the characters. Also, have you heard of CCDJMC (crouch cancelled double jump momentum cancel) or anything like that?Requiem fo Ice (talk) 19:38, 9 November 2013 (EST)

Round 210: Master Hand vs. Tabuu

		Winner!! Master Hand 16 to 6.5
How's about a fair fight between the final bosses of Brawl's Classic and Adventure modes?
Votes for Master Hand meh Scr7(talk · contribs) 11:11, 26 October 2013 (EDT) Tabuu is a Asshole --Igor The Mii (talk) 11:19, 26 October 2013 (EDT) Dots The Smasher 12:51, 26 October 2013 (EDT) He reminds me of Motzand in Banjo-Kazooie. Boo Buddy 13:31, 26 October 2013 (EDT) Longevity wins over all... In addition, I agree with Igor, Tabuu is too overpowered in many respects, so while I appreciate him as a boss character, I cannot favor him over the original gangsta, Master Hand. Oasidu (talk) 14:12, 26 October 2013 (EDT) Hohohahahaha--Pichu+Pichu (talk) 15:42, 26 October 2013 (EDT) He's so good that there are rules banning him from participating in Melee tournaments. You ever see a Tabuu ban in Brawl tournaments? (just kidding, I like MH better that's all) --Timson622222 (talk) 17:54, 26 October 2013 (EDT) The original boss. Way better than Tabbu.TheAtomicFire 18:30, 26 October 2013 (EDT) 75.31.4.16 21:57, 26 October 2013 (EDT) Even though Tabuu is way more powerful than Master Hand, Super Smash Bros for the Nintendo 64 was the first game I ever played, so guess who was the first boss I ever fought. To me, older bosses will always be better than the more recent ones.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 17:33, 27 October 2013 (EDT) Whoops, I missed my fight suggestion last week. Oh well, Master Hand isn't forced to appear right at the end of Boss Battles. I find that to be a pain with Tabuu. Toast ltimatum 18:05, 27 October 2013 (EDT) I don't have Brawl, so Master Hand it is. Sloth (I am NOT Sloth) 04:27, 28 October 2013 (EDT) Master Hand has a creepily epic laugh, Tabuu doesn't. 86.166.185.181 16:05, 28 October 2013 (EDT) Master Hand is easier and is less stressful94.99.9.240 10:25, 29 October 2013 (EDT) It was fun to play as him in Melee. ChuckNorris 16:43, 30 October 2013 (EDT) Tabuu's design is really cool, but he isn't memorable at all. Master Hand is just a great, classic fight with no 1hko moves! Sartron (talk) 13:06, 31 October 2013 (EDT)			Votes for Tabuu my favorite boss is tabuu. because he is one of the tuffist boss that i could not beat him.Smash X 5432 (talk) 12:04, 26 October 2013 (EDT) well, master hand doesn't move unless he attacks, and all of tabuu's attacks require good dodging. 2 of his attacks are OHKO's on intense. When playing on intense, as you should be, tabuu will have a lot more HP than MH, a good 745 to 360. 75.85.64.155 15:44, 26 October 2013 (EDT) 75.156.151.217 17:51, 26 October 2013 (EDT) digital butterfly;)MetaMewtwoSoul 07:33, 27 October 2013 (EDT) Because. 192.197.128.18 10:53, 28 October 2013 (EDT) I have to go with this guy. Sure Master Hand is cool, but Tabuu is from Brawl. Soooo...I love SSBB! 107.211.34.20 12:47, 28 October 2013 (EDT) Half-votes Master Hand is awesome, but Tabbu on Intense is so hard, I have to pick him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megamanmario4 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 30 October 2013 (EDT)
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