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DoctorPain99 10:46, 22 May 2011 (EDT)

Dude, no.

Your vote does not go in the half vote section. Please read the Smash Arena Rules. DoctorPain99 20:01, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

I believe the half vote rule applies if someone purposely filled in their vote incorrectly to be a half vote. Casting your vote as a half vote while doing the voting procedure correctly is acceptable I believe. Omega Tyrant 20:06, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

No it isn't. Read rule 10. DoctorPain99 20:07, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Read what I said. The rule is there so someone doesn't intentionally put their votes in half votes thinking doing so they won't have to sign their votes or something. I see absolutely nothing wrong with putting a vote in the half votes as long as you vote properly. It's their vote, they can put it in half votes if they want their vote to count as a half vote (such as in an instance where they don't feel too strongly about either side). Omega Tyrant 20:19, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Do not tell me to read what you said when you obviously did not read the rule carefully enough. It specifically says, "nor is it acceptable to want your vote to be worth half", meaning you cannot put your votes in the half vote section just because you want your vote to count as half. Also, it's Toomai's decision, not yours (or mine). DoctorPain99 20:23, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Familiar with the term "spirit of the rule"? The rule's intention is to prevent people from intentionally voting improperly by putting their votes in half votes, not to prevent those who feel their vote should be an half vote from voting as such. And why should people be forbidden to put their votes in half votes if they vote correctly? What harm does it do? Simply saying "the rule says so" does not answer that. Omega Tyrant 20:27, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

No it isn't, it does not in any way say "Do not intentionally break a rule to get a vote in the half-vote section" it says "Do not put your vote in the half vote section." Period, no exceptions. Also, if you would like the rule to be changed ask the man himself and don't get into a pointless dispute with another user about it. DoctorPain99 20:33, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

As Emmett once said "One thing that I think I accidentally beat into the culture of SmashWiki is the ideas that policies are laws that form the backbone that must always be followed or else. This is not the case at all. Wikis are based on discussion and consensus, and blindly following rules (sometimes even to the point of harming the wiki just to be "by the book") is stupid."

I believe you are doing this right now, as your sole reasoning for enforcing the exact lettering of this rule is "Toomai said so" which itself does not refute anything I said. I already brought this up on the Smash Arena page, but keep what Emmett said in mind, and when someone questions your enforcement of a rule, provide more than "X says so". Omega Tyrant 20:53, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

My position is here. Move any additional comments there. DoctorPain99 20:55, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

The above comment was me telling you why you should avoid blindly following and enforcing every rule, especially if you're unable to provide justification for the rule, which is why I posted here and not there. Omega Tyrant 21:09, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Let's stop bombarding this guy's talk page already. If you really need to talk to me about that, go to IRC. DoctorPain99 21:11, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

Your edit(s) on the Suggestion

Read the rules. One suggestion for one user every one week. I think you should delete one Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 07:05, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Brawl?

Prepare yourself. Mr. Anontalk 13:43, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

Sorry, I can only go online on very specific occasions. Read my userpage for full details. If ever a time comes around, I'll let you know. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 13:44, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

Spelling

Don't change the English spelling from one form to the other, as you to some words in this edit. Thank you.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 12:59, 27 September 2011 (EDT)

No items

n00b.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:07, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

No

Some of the thing you added about our brawls are not true.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 15:46, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

Like what? You tell me what I 'lied' about, and I'll change the paragraph accordingly. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 17:48, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

1. The first match did feature items (but yes I won)
2. You didn't lose that match where you was Jiggly; you picked Mushroomy Kingdom and had items on, so I left
3. The match after that was item-free, and I won
4. The match after that one had items and the connection broke

That's all I think.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:10, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

OK, I'll change a few things. Also, the connection didn't break on the final match, I disconnected because I was confused at the appearance of items when I set them to None. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 06:27, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

Ok, but you didn't quit the normal way then, am I right?-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:36, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

Pseudo-Pause, L+R+A+START. That's the way I disconnected. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 06:48, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

But the match didn't end in a 'No contest' thingy.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:54, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

That's odd. I didn't notice, because straight after I quit, I went onto the IRC to talk about it. Either way, I definately did the Pseudo-Pause, L+R+A+START quit. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 06:56, 2 October 2011 (EDT)

Moving

I found "List of SSBB music" far better than "SSBB Music" tbh. Shouldn't you discuss it first?-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 05:15, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

Yeah. Every page starts with the same four words: "This is a list". So why move away from page titles that start "List of"? :/ PenguinofDeath 05:17, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

The reason I originally called the articles List of SSBB Music (Franchise series) is because I based the name upon List of Trophies (Franchise series), but the thing is, the trophies articles actually are a list, while these articles aren't really a list, more a collaboration of sub-sections. I'll agree having List of in front looks nicer, but the new title is easier to type for people searching for the articles, and makes more sense. If you really think it's necessary, I'll revert back to the old titles, though it seems weird referring to something that isn't a list as a list. As for the opening line, I think I was wrong to put that as well. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 05:27, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

The articles you created are lists, as they list the songs. You could make redirects for the new titles you just made up. I think you should revert it.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 05:31, 19 October 2011 (EDT)

Music pages

The infoboxes should always come after the header on the same subject. Miles (talk) 14:45, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

PenguinOfDeath was the one that moved the infoboxes, but there's definately reason. If they go below the header, then they look like [1] this, which does not look good compared to this. Toast ltimatumComplaints Box 14:49, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

Miles: Why? PenguinofDeath 15:40, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

Ease of editibility is one factor. If I want to edit the infobox for "Title/Ending (Super Mario World)" I should be able to get to it under the header for the same song. Removing the redundant "title" line from the infobox should reduce its height to make that less clunky. Miles (talk) 15:02, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

Sure it's easier to edit, but should the editspace look nicer, or should the article look nicer. I'd much prefer the article to look nicer. Even if you could make it so it doesn't overlap with the other sub-sections, it still looks nicer exactly on the line. I guess I'm not the admin, but that's how I feel. Also, I think the title section looks good for balancing. Toast ltimatumComplaints Box 16:04, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

Miles: As Toast said, it looks better on the line than just below, and it's not about what's easier to edit, it's about what looks better on the page, and, tbh, it really doesn't make that much difference to editing. PenguinofDeath 16:51, 24 October 2011 (EDT)