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==Random IRC conversation:==


[19:29] == Mr_Anon [webchat@50.46.239.148] has joined #sw
[19:29] <Mr_Anon> Sry about that.
[19:30] <Mr_Anon> My brother decided to mess around while I was AFK
[19:30] <Mr_Anon> Have any of you played Super Smash Flash?
[19:30] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> yep, didn't like it
[19:31] <Mr_Anon> SSF 1 sucks, but what about SSF2?
[19:31] <Anthony1996> I've play SSF2
[19:31] <Mr_Anon> Who's your main(s)?
[19:32] <Anthony1996> I don't remember how it was
[19:32] <Mr_Anon> Mine are Kirby, Ness, and Black Mage.
[19:32] <Anthony1996> I remember playing as Link
[19:32] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> i only play the smash series for the fact that is still remembers old games in a fun way with it's music, moves and re-inventing old characters so they are popular again, i doubt ssf2 would be like that
[19:33] <Mr_Anon> SSF2 is like a "mini" version of SSBB that has different characters and stages.
[19:34] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> does it have megaman
[19:34] <Mr_Anon> Just to satisfy people who go "OMG why isunt Goku in Brawl!"
[19:34] <Mr_Anon> Yes, it does have Megaman
[19:34] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> it's soooooooooooo lame
[19:34] <Mr_Anon> Why do you hate Megaman?
[19:34] <Mr_Anon> True, his games are overrated, but he is a popular character whom many people want to appear in SSB4.
[19:35] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> i hate people thinking that "megaman" and "goku" could be worthy of being in the smash series, every game in here had started a new revolution of gameplay or experimenting with music, refernces or made a game completely wierd, megaman and dragonball do not fit the criteria
[19:36] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> i would be let down by sakurai if they were in it at all
[19:36] <Mr_Anon> Dragonball is an anime, so it shouldn't be in there at all.
[19:36] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> there are games on nintendo systems
[19:37] <Mr_Anon> Megaman though... his games apparently were revolutionary to the platform/shooter genre.
[19:37] <Mr_Anon> True, he isn't Nintendo technically...
[19:37] <Mr_Anon> But Capcom has been friendly with Nintendo.
[19:38] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> they weren't it was a rip-off of the original metroid series
[19:38] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> they just gained popularity
[19:38] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> megaman is like an ipod
[19:38] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> just lame
[19:39] <Mr_Anon> I guess.
[19:40] <Mr_Anon> The Mario/DK/Yoshi/Wario series pretty much defined platforming.
[19:41] <Mr_Anon> The Zelda series revolutionized adventure games
[19:41] <Mr_Anon> The Metroid games combined platforming with freeroaming style, which made them popular.
[19:42] <Mr_Anon> The Earthbound series introduced overworld enemies, as well as surprise attacks and instawins to RPGs
[19:42] <Mr_Anon> Kirby made gaming available to the less skilled,
[19:43] <Mr_Anon> Starfox pretty much created 3 dimensional video games
[19:43] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> t'was the first
[19:45] <Mr_Anon> Pokemon has become a sensation which is arguably the most popular franchise of all time.
[19:45] <Mr_Anon> F-Zero... not sure yet what that introduced though.
[19:45] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> racing
[19:45] <Mr_Anon> Game&Watch's legacy speaks for itself
[19:45] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> first racing game ever\
[19:46] <Mr_Anon> Super Mario Kart existed before F-Zero, no>
[19:46] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> are you sure
[19:46] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> it could just be because of the concept
[19:46] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> bounty hunter and race car drinver
[19:47] <Mr_Anon> never mind you were right
[19:48] <Mr_Anon> Fire Emblem I believe greatly changed the face of strategy games.
[19:49] <Mr_Anon> Ice Climber... I'm not sure how important that was though
[19:49] <Mr_Anon> Seems very similar to Mario Bros. in gameplay.
[19:50] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> was the first screen-scrolling game
[19:50] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> and to do it upwards
[19:51] <Mr_Anon> Sonic built up his reputation though at one point being more popular than Mario
[19:52] <Mr_Anon> Metal Gear invented the stealth genre
[19:52] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> and was Sega's mascot
[19:52] <Mr_Anon> Robotic Opporating Buddies literally saved video gaming.
[19:53] <Mr_Anon> Pikmin was an important RTS game that was revolutionary throught he ability of having more than 100 moving polygons at the same time.
[19:53] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> and introduced a n ew style of gameplay
[19:53] <Doc_King> wow really
[19:53] <Doc_King> ROBs actually saved gaming?
[19:53] <Mr_Anon> Yes.
[19:54] <Mr_Anon> After ET, stores refused to sell video games
[19:54] <Anthony1996> It's true.
[19:54] <Mr_Anon> But Nintendo got ROB through by disguising him as a toy.
[19:54] <Anthony1996> Yeh
[19:54] <Anthony1996> Only two games though
[19:54] <Mr_Anon> Then when they released the NES, kids everywhere went "wait my ROB can be used with it!"
[19:54] <Anthony1996> And...
[19:54] <Mr_Anon> So video games once again became popular.
[19:54] <Anthony1996> To say the least...
[19:54] <Anthony1996> They sucked
[19:55] <Mr_Anon> He was still an important game perpherical.
[19:55] <Anthony1996> Yup
[19:55] <Mr_Anon> And Nintendo paid their debt to him by making him have cameos in all their series.
[19:56] <Anthony1996> You're talking about ROB and I'm watching a ROB combo vid
[19:56] <Anthony1996> Ain't that something?
[19:56] <MAFK> nope
[19:56] <MAFK> nothing at all
[19:56] == MAFK has changed nick to Mega
[19:56] <Mr_Anon> What series am I missing?
[19:57] <Anthony1996> Its the Iron Giant!
[19:57] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> Kid icarus
[19:57] <Mr_Anon> I forgot about him!
[19:58] <Mr_Anon> Ah... Kid icarus made the vertical scrolling platforming genre popular
[19:58] <Mr_Anon> Like a linear version of Metroid.
[19:58] <Mr_Anon> Except it wasn't a rip-off like other series.
[19:59] <Mr_Anon> Since they were made by the same person.
[19:59] <Mr_Anon> So I've shown how every series has its significance.
[19:59] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> it also was the first game to have more than one type of gameplay
[19:59] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> not every series
[19:59] <Doc_King> thats cool
[19:59] <Mr_Anon> Because of this, I think that Pac Man should be the next third party/new series.
[20:00] <Doc_King> respect for ROB
[20:00] <Mr_Anon> *Every Smash series
[20:00] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> Nope, not every smash series
[20:00] <Mr_Anon> What am I missing?
[20:00] <Mega> like, Nintendo endorsed
[20:00] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> side ones, like panel de pon
[20:00] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> golden sun
[20:01] <Mr_Anon> Never looked at those.
[20:01] <Mega> Golden Sun is in
[20:01] <Mega> Tekken would be in if Pac Man was
[20:01] <Mr_Anon> Pac Man should be in SSB64
[20:01] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> NOEZ
[20:01] <Mr_Anon> He introduced platformers period.
[20:02] <Mr_Anon> He has kept up with the evolving nature of video games with 3d platforming games.
[20:02] <Mr_Anon> Not to mention his original games are... unique to say at the least.
[20:03] <Mega> oh yah
[20:03] <Mega> did you include Zoroak as next character?
[20:03] <Mr_Anon> No I would have Mewtwo return.
[20:03] <Mega> *Zoroark
[20:03] <Mega> In all likelyhood
[20:03] <Doc_King> yes he should return
[20:03] <Mega> Mewtwo might not return :/
[20:03] <Doc_King> Mewtwo is such a special pokemon
[20:03] <Mega> Nintendo went with Lucario, who had his own movie
[20:03] <Doc_King> why would they get rid of him
[20:03] <Mega> Zoroark already had its own movie
[20:03] <Mega> already, Zoroark is guaranteed a spot in
[20:04] <Mr_Anon> He remains the best non-hacked character in the Pokemon series
[20:04] <Mega> kicking Lucario out
[20:04] == Shauns_Wiji_Dodo [~chatzilla@CPE-121-220-254-219.lns6.way.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout]
[20:05] <Mr_Anon> The Pokemon series could have 6 characters
[20:05] <Anthony1996> Wow
[20:06] <Mega> PT is getting booted out
[20:06] <Mr_Anon> The mario series in SSBM had 5 characters.
[20:06] <Mega> but not in favor of the newest starters
[20:06] <Anthony1996> Yeah
[20:06] <Mega> which reduces it to Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and the replacement for Lucario
[20:06] <Mega> However, they will endorse gen 5 in some way
[20:07] <Mr_Anon> PT is not going to be booted out.
[20:07] <Mega> with the only movie star being Victini, Zekrom, Reshiram, and Zoroark
[20:07] <Mr_Anon> He remains the perfect representative of Gen 1
[20:07] <Doc_King> I think Snake is getting booted out
[20:07] <Mega> Snake isn't out
[20:07] <Doc_King> he was only in Brawl by a request
[20:07] <Mr_Anon> Who says Lucario is getting booted out.
[20:07] <Doc_King> i dont think so
[20:07] <Mr_Anon> Why can't he and Mew2 coexist?
[20:07] <Mega> Lucario, Mewtwo, and Zoroark have all appeared in movies, no?
[20:08] <Mega> It is very possible that one will be booted out in favor of the other
[20:08] <Mr_Anon> Zoroark is not a confirmed character.
[20:08] <Mr_Anon> Stop saying he is.
[20:08] <Mega> his cances of being confirmed are higher than the rest of the gen 5 pokemon
[20:08] <Doc_King> :p
[20:08] <Mr_Anon> Mewtwo was in because he was by far the best pokemon at the time of Melee's release
[20:08] <Mr_Anon> So he was put in.
[20:08] <Doc_King> who thinks Tails is gonna be in the next smash game
[20:08] <Doc_King> and Gewno
[20:08] <Doc_King> Geno*
[20:08] <Mega> Tails and Knuckles have a decent chance of being in
[20:09] <Doc_King> yeah
[20:09] <Mega> Geno is possibly out
[20:09] <Doc_King> probably Shadow too
[20:09] <Mega> unless Nintendo picks him for some random reason
[20:09] <Doc_King> since ppl are overcrazed about him
[20:09] <Mega> oh yah
[20:09] <Mr_Anon> Pichu at the time of Melee was the representative of the latest gen.
[20:09] <Mr_Anon> As was Lucario.
[20:09] <Mega> Snake can't be booted out bcz Konami would only have fucking Yugi
[20:09] <Mr_Anon> So Lucario did not replace Mew2
[20:09] <Mr_Anon> The PT did.
[20:10] <Doc_King> oh wow
[20:10] <Mega> they skipped a gen
[20:10] <Mega> noticed?
[20:10] <Mr_Anon> Yes, because by Brawl's release gen 4 was the latest gen, not gen 3
[20:10] <Mr_Anon> By Melee's release gen 2 was
[20:10] <Mega> so why put in a gen1 character?
[20:10] <Mega> You already have 2 of them
[20:10] <Doc_King> gen?
[20:10] <Mr_Anon> Pikachu and Jiggly are not representative of gen 1
[20:11] <Mr_Anon> They are the Pokemon universal mascots
[20:11] <Doc_King> oh pokemon
[20:11] <Mr_Anon> (well really only Pika is)
[20:11] <Mr_Anon> (Jiggly is more of a joke character)
[20:11] <Doc_King> Puff should be out
[20:11] <Mr_Anon> PT is representative of gen1.
[20:11] <Doc_King> I mean shes just a random Pokemon
[20:11] <Mr_Anon> Mewtwo was kicked out because he sucked in Melee.
[20:11] <Doc_King> and replaced with Mewtwo
[20:12] <Doc_King> robably not
[20:12] <Doc_King> probably*
[20:12] <Mr_Anon> Again, Jigz is the perfect joke character.
[20:12] <Mega> then let's kick MK for being considered godly
[20:12] <Mega> Jigz is dat anime thing
[20:12] <Mr_Anon> Mewtwo alternatively could have been replaced by PT
[20:12] <Mr_Anon> since they can both be considered representatives of Gen1
[20:12] <Doc_King> PT is annoying to a lot of ppl
[20:13] <Mega> No starters have been represented either
[20:13] <Mega> so you have 2 possible choices
[20:13] <Mega> though I still doubt the first 1
[20:13] <Mr_Anon> Whatever reason, I think the Pokemon cast for SSB4 should be:
[20:13] <Mr_Anon> PT, Pika, Jiggly, (gen4 representative), and Mewtwo
[20:13] <Mr_Anon> PT =Gen1 rep
[20:13] <Mega> then you missed gen 5 :|
[20:14] <Mr_Anon> *gen5
[20:14] <Mr_Anon> Pika = Poke mascot
[20:14] <Mr_Anon> Jiggly = joke character
[20:14] <Mega> I still believe that Zoroark is the most likely character to be in
[20:14] <Doc_King> what about Pichu
[20:14] <Mega> as Lucario was featured in the movie
[20:14] <Mega> Pichu has about 0%
[20:14] <Mega> just saying
[20:14] <Doc_King> probably
[20:15] <Mr_Anon> Zoroark = Lastest gen rep (unless gen 6 is out by SSB64)
[20:15] <Doc_King> hes basically a deformed Pikachu
[20:15] <Doc_King> that hurts himself
[20:15] <Mr_Anon> Mewtwo = the legendary pokemon that gets in.
[20:15] <Doc_King> yes
[20:15] <Mega> another gen will definitly occur in 4 years or so
[20:15] <Doc_King> hes just so unique too
[20:15] <Mr_Anon> Pichu was still the gen2 rep.
[20:15] <Doc_King> and special to pokemon
[20:15] <Mr_Anon> gen2 no longer is the latest gen, so Pichu was removed.
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[20:16] <Mr_Anon> Who else should be in?
[20:16] <Mr_Anon> OT sugggests Koopa Jr.
[20:16] <Mega> Boozer Jr. can easily get in
[20:16] <Doc_King> what about Toad
[20:16] <Mega> with more appearances happening in each Mario game
[20:16] <Mega> rather than a random ass cameo
[20:16] <Mega> Peach has Toad :/
[20:16] <Mr_Anon> Stop asking for toad to be in!
[20:16] <Mr_Anon> Toad is not a character!
[20:17] <Mega> that alone means that they won't include him
[20:17] <Mr_Anon> Toad refers to a species!
[20:17] <Doc_King> Son Goku!
[20:17] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> he is a character in SMB2
[20:17] <Mr_Anon> By that definition Waddle Dee should be a character
[20:17] <Doc_King> ehhh
[20:17] <Doc_King> Ridley
[20:17] <Mr_Anon> SMB2 was really a Japanese game turned into a Mario game
[20:17] <Mega> Jump is definitly not gonna be in
[20:17] <Mr_Anon> Ridley is too big.
[20:17] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> i know anon
[20:17] <Mega> Ridley can't be shrinked
[20:17] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> but still
[20:18] <Mega> Ridley alone is at least twice as tall as Samus
[20:18] <Mega> Capcom has a chance of rep
[20:18] <Doc_King> Ryu
[20:18] <Mega> Not bringing in Zero, Megaman, or X would be foolish
[20:18] <Doc_King> Ken
[20:18] <Doc_King> Guile
[20:18] <Mega> Ryu does not outrank Megaman in wants :|
[20:18] <Doc_King> Megaman
[20:18] <Mr_Anon> Ninten could be a character
[20:19] <Mr_Anon> Having normal attacks rather than Ness' PSI
[20:19] <Mega> Capcom and possibly most of the 3rd party companies would get only 3 characters at max
[20:19] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> FUCK CAPCOM
[20:19] <Doc_King> what about Pac Man
[20:19] <Doc_King> :O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O
[20:19] <Mr_Anon> Doc, Shauns and I discussed Megaman.
[20:19] <Mega> Pac Man would be competeting with the dead Tekken
[20:19] <Mr_Anon> I already mentioned Pac Man.
[20:19] <Doc_King> what about Doc
[20:20] <Mega> Doc is dead for sure :/
[20:20] <Doc_King> :(
[20:20] <Mr_Anon> Dr. Mario was removed for a reason.
[20:20] <Doc_King> Long live the king of docs
[20:20] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> well, doc what has megaman done do be in the smash series
[20:20] <Doc_King> lol
[20:20] <Mr_Anon> I'm not going to waste braincells explaining that reason.
[20:20] <Mr_Anon> Sheik should be removed.
[20:20] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> NOEZ
[20:20] <Doc_King> NOE!
[20:20] <Mr_Anon> She has no significance in the Zelda series.
[20:20] <Doc_King> Sheik is awesome
[20:20] <Mega> look
[20:21] <Mr_Anon> Not to mention the character is a spoiler for OoT.
[20:21] <Mega> unless she appears in the new Link game
[20:21] <Mega> she's gonna get out :/
[20:21] <Mr_Anon> It's called ZELDA games.
[20:21] <Doc_King> Remove Olimar
[20:21] <Mr_Anon> Don't say that again.
[20:21] <Mega> Olimar is likely in
[20:21] <Mega> PIkmin 3
[20:21] <Doc_King> hes too small to be in Brawl
[20:21] <Mega> HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCKING HYPE PIKMIN 3
[20:21] <Doc_King> damnit
[20:21] <Mega> Dude :/
[20:21] <Mr_Anon> I have explained why Pikmin is a significant character.
[20:21] <Mega> Small?
[20:22] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> sheik was an element in ocarina of time that expanded the story, and she was going to be in twilight princess
[20:22] <Mega> Olimar isn't even half the size of any of the brawlerz in his games
[20:22] <Mr_Anon> While technically small, Olimar appears regular sized in his games.
[20:22] <Doc_King> Hes just so weird in physics
[20:22] <Mega> he's a dime
[20:22] <Mega> a fucking dime
[20:22] <Mega> or was it a quarter?
[20:22] <Mr_Anon> HE APPEARS REGULAR SIZED IN HIS GAME!!!
[20:22] <Mr_Anon> HIS SERIES HAS INCREDIBLE SIGNIFICANCE.
[20:22] <Doc_King> ok
[20:22] <Mega> HIS SERIES
[20:22] <Mega> IS GETTING PIKMIN #
[20:22] <Mega> *3
[20:22] <Mega> EVEYONE KNEW IT WAS GONNA COME OUT
[20:22] <Mega> THEY BASICALLY CONFIRMED IT FOR 2012
[20:22] <Mr_Anon> Guys, PLEASE read the conversation I JUST HAD with Shauns about each series' significance.
[20:23] <Mr_Anon> NONE of the series need be removed entirely.
[20:23] <Mega> Pikmin 3 is like what everyone wanted
[20:23] <Mega> to boot the lone character?
[20:23] <Mega> You'd have to be the worst director ever
[20:23] <Mr_Anon> Anyways Black Shadow would be a good character for F-Zero
[20:23] <Doc_King> do you think the ice climbers are staying in smash
[20:23] <Mr_Anon> Yes.
[20:23] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> yes
[20:24] <Mr_Anon> WHAT DID I JUST SAY DOC???
[20:24] <Mega> Doc
[20:24] <Mega> only
[20:24]  * Mega looks
[20:24] <Doc_King> I think Snake might be removed in the next smash game
[20:24] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> no
[20:24] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> just no
[20:24] <Mr_Anon> WHAT DID I JUST SAY???!!!
[20:24] <Mega> Lucario, Sheik, and possibl Wario
[20:24] <Mega> would be removed :|
[20:24] <Mega> *possibly
[20:24] <Doc_King> Wario?
[20:24] <Mega> every other fuckign character
[20:24] <Doc_King> no not him
[20:24] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> not wario
[20:24] <Mega> except maybe PT as well
[20:24] <Mega> will stay in
[20:25] <Mr_Anon> EVERY SERIES THAT HAS CHARACTERS IN SMASH (with the exception of Wario) HAS SIGNIFICANCE.
[20:25] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> wario has significance
[20:25] <Mega> Wario is beginning to grow very very very old
[20:25] <Doc_King> he still has games
[20:25] <Mega> Minigames
[20:25] <Mr_Anon> NONE OF THEM WILL BE REMOVED.
[20:25] <Mega> what happened to the mp series?
[20:25] <Mega> it died
[20:25] <Doc_King> and appears in many mario games and his own games
[20:25] <Doc_King> Mega: then how come ice climbers arent removed
[20:25] <Mega> WTF DOC
[20:26] <Mega> ARE YOU UNABLE TO READ A SINGLE LINE OF TEXT
[20:26] <Doc_King> i can read
[20:26] <Mega> THEN WHY ARE YOU ASKING A FUCKING RETARDED QUESTION :|
[20:26] <Mega> ICS CAN NOT BE REMOVED
[20:26] <Mega> Only the 4 I mentioned have a chance of being removed
[20:26] <Mega> Lucario has the highest
[20:26] <Doc_King> how come him?
[20:26] <Mega> the other 3 are barely tied with each other
[20:26] <Mega> :|
[20:27] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> cause he has no significance
[20:27] <Mr_Anon> IF DOC ASKS FOR ANOTHER SERIES TO BE REMOVED WITHOUT ADDRESSING MY REASONS THAT I POSTED FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH SHAUNS, I WILL COMPLAIN TO OMEGATYRANT.
[20:27] <Doc_King> geez man
[20:27] <Doc_King> i was asking a question
[20:27] <Mega> you're acting beyond retarded
[20:27] <Mr_Anon> Kamek would be a good Yoshi character.
[20:27] <Doc_King> no
[20:27] <Doc_King> Mega:
[20:27] <Mega> HEY GUYS
[20:27] <Doc_King> probably
[20:27] <Mega> HOW COME LUCARIO CAN'T BE IN?!?
[20:28] <Doc_King> i dont play pokemon
[20:28] <Mega> :|
[20:28] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> neither
[20:28] <Doc_King> so i dont know his significance
[20:28] <Mr_Anon> what's wrong with Kamek?
[20:28] <Mega> Kamek has a chance
[20:28] <Mr_Anon> He's the only other Yoshi character available.
[20:28] <Doc_King> yeah
[20:28] <Doc_King> and the babys
[20:28] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> dude... bowser jr
[20:28] <Mega> correction
[20:28] <Doc_King> no thats baby bowser
[20:28] <Mega> baby bowser :/
[20:28] <Mr_Anon> I mentioned Jr. as a Mario possibility.
[20:28] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> whatever
[20:29] <Mega> bowser jr. is a completely different character
[20:29] <Doc_King> what about Waluigi
[20:29] <Mega> He'd have more demands
[20:29] <Doc_King> or Koopa
[20:29] <Mr_Anon> I don't think Sakurai likes having characters that are technically other characters.
[20:29] <Mega> Koopa has 0
[20:29] <Mega> If Koopa is in
[20:29] <Mega> then so is freaking toad
[20:29] <Mr_Anon> That's the reason he removed Doc and Young Link.
[20:29] <Mega> and the waddles
[20:29] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> waluigi = not enough significance
[20:29] <Doc_King> yeah
[20:29] <Mr_Anon> Koopa is already a characters.
[20:29] <Mr_Anon> *Character.
[20:29] <Mr_Anon> We americans chose to call him "Bowser".
[20:30] <Doc_King> oh ok
[20:30] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> silly americans
[20:30] <Mr_Anon> I believe you mean "Koopa Troopa".
[20:30] <Doc_King> yes
[20:30] <Doc_King> the minion
[20:30] <Doc_King> or Shy Guy
[20:30] <Mega> Toad=0
[20:30] <Mega> Waddle=
[20:30] <Mega> 0
[20:30] <Mega> by default
[20:30] <Mr_Anon> Unless they are a real character, I don't think they should even be considered.
[20:30] <Mega> All other common enemies=0
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[20:31] <Mr_Anon> Master Hand should be unlockable.
[20:31] <Doc_King> no
[20:31] <Mr_Anon> But only after like 10,000 Brawls
[20:31] <Mega> The size issue
[20:31] <Mega> the size issue
[20:31] <Mr_Anon> And clearing story mode perfectly.
[20:31] <Mr_Anon> He was playable fine in Melee.
[20:31] <Doc_King> he would most likely be banned
[20:31] <Anthony1996> Yeh
[20:31] <Mega> Doc
[20:31] <Anthony1996> the glitch
[20:31] <Mr_Anon> Who cares if he would be banned.
[20:31] <Mega> you assume banning for any character
[20:31] <Mega> no one gives a crap :|
[20:31] <Doc_King> however you had to use the time limit to beat him
[20:31] <Mr_Anon> Sakurai likes to appeal to casual players.
[20:32] <Doc_King> changing the metagame around
[20:32] <Mega> MH still has a size issue, which would mean Ridley would have a higher chance than you said earlier
[20:32] <Mr_Anon> Ridley remains best as a boss.
[20:32] <Mr_Anon> Even as a boss, he is larger than MH.
[20:32] <Doc_King> like dedede would most likely be able to infinite Ridley
[20:32] <Mega> I still don't see how MH would work
[20:32] <Mega> as a hand
[20:32] <Doc_King> what about Giga Bowser
[20:32] <Mr_Anon> Again, if MH is the only one of his kind, and a super-secret character, he could work.
[20:32] <Mega> Nintedo would have a hard time thinking about what he could do
[20:32] <Mega> don't even go there :|
[20:33] <Doc_King> or metal mario
[20:33] <Mega> don't even go there
[20:33] <Mr_Anon> MH should be fully controllable (like in SSB64) and be cheap in every way.
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[20:33] <Doc_King> what about Birdo
[20:33] <Doc_King> and Daisy
[20:33] <Mega> :|
[20:33] <Doc_King> or K rool
[20:33] <Mr_Anon> Birdo is not a Mario character.
[20:33] <Mega> :|
[20:33] <Mr_Anon> Daisy is really a Wario character.
[20:33] <Doc_King> shes not?
[20:33] <Mega> have you even seen K Rool?
[20:33] <Doc_King> hes like the size of bowser
[20:34] <Mr_Anon> Birdo, he first appeared in Doki Doki Panic
[20:34] <Mega> no, in games :|
[20:34] <Mr_Anon> No need to introduce a new series.
[20:34] <Mega> He's been gone for several years
[20:34] <Mega> he's not gonna have a favorable chance
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[20:34] <Mr_Anon> Regarding MH, I still think he could work as the "final super cheap banned character".
[20:34] <Mr_Anon> Doesn't mean he has to be playable in tourneys.
[20:35] <Doc_King> nah
[20:35] <Mr_Anon> I want to legally play as the hand.
[20:35] <Mega> tournies aren't everything :L
[20:35] <Mega> but I still find him as weirder to play than everyone else
[20:35] <Mr_Anon> (By legally, I mean without hacking or a glitch)
[20:35] <Mr_Anon> MH is also the main character in the series.
[20:35] <Doc_King> yeah
[20:35] <Doc_King> true
[20:35] <Mr_Anon> his final smash could be summoning Crazy Hand.
[20:36] <Doc_King> what about Tabuu
[20:36] <Mega> :/
[20:36] <Mr_Anon> Making him fully controlable would also make him more difficult in Classic.
[20:36] <Mr_Anon> Tabuu is tricky...
[20:36] <Mega> Tabuu just isn't as notable as MH
[20:36] <Mr_Anon> First he needs to remain the main villain of SSB4's story.
[20:36] <Mr_Anon> Second he has to be able to move.
[20:36] <Doc_King> yeah
[20:36] <Mega> float around, like a hand
[20:36] <Mr_Anon> It would be really awkward move through teleporting.
[20:37] <Mega> MH would make much more sense to be played as
[20:37] <Mega> All other bosses in the series except MH have like no chance of being in
[20:37] <Mega> so don't even suggest more of them :/
[20:37] <Mr_Anon> Porky could be a character.
[20:38] <Mega> Porky would use?
[20:38] <Mr_Anon> His Earthbound spider mech is much smaller than his Mother 3 (brawl) one.
[20:38] <Mega> Know why they didn't name Megatron Galvatron in rotf?
[20:38] <Mr_Anon> He has powerful PSI moves (almost as powerful as Giygas), as well as bombs, teargas, and other stuff.
[20:38] <Mega> bcz people who watched the movie would wonder where the fuck did Megatron go
[20:39] <Doc_King> what about Krystal
[20:39] <Mega> the logic can be applied here, except people would be confused of size
[20:39] <Mr_Anon> Starfox has enough characters.
[20:39] <Mega> ^
[20:39] <Doc_King> not rly
[20:39] <Mr_Anon> Krystal would make Starfox outnumber Kirby
[20:39] <Mega> Doc
[20:39] <Mega> Mario has da most
[20:39] <Mr_Anon> Which I don't think is right.
[20:39] <Mega> cuz they're the most popular
[20:39] <Mega> going by popularity
[20:39] <Mega> Kirby would outrank Fox
[20:39] <Doc_King> no actually pokemon is the most popular
[20:40] <Mr_Anon> Starfox has 7 games, 2 of whicha remakes of Starfox 1 and one of which was never released in the first place.
[20:40] <Mega> how I'd love to say that you likely played a Pokemon game before
[20:40] <Doc_King> and Snake is more popular than Fire Emblem and Earth Bound
[20:40] <Mega> wut
[20:40] <Mr_Anon> Kirby has more than 11 stand-alone games, and 20 total (including remakes and puzzle games)
[20:40] <Mr_Anon> True, Metal Gear is more opular than Fire Emblem and Earthbound
[20:40] <Mega> did ya include the new Kirby?
[20:41] <Mega> How popular is Earthbound in Japan?
[20:41] <Mr_Anon> But Snake is a guest character, while FE and EB are veteran series so they would naturally have more guys.
[20:41] <Anthony1996> Very
[20:41] <Mega> exactly
[20:41] <Mr_Anon> Earthbound is also pretty popular here in the States
[20:41] <Mega> popular enough to the point that Americans are requesting that it be released by Nintendo
[20:42] <Mega> rather than playing fanmade translations
[20:42] <Mr_Anon> At least with the few people who have played it here.
[20:42] <Mr_Anon> Earthbound was released here.
[20:42] <Mr_Anon> EB0 was translated.
[20:42] <Mr_Anon> Mother 3 is the only fan translation.
[20:42] <Anthony1996> On an actual SNES
[20:42] <Mega> Every game in the series have been translated
[20:42] <Mr_Anon> We're going off topic.
[20:43] <Mega> well what other characters could be considered?
[20:43] <Mega> Sonic has at most 3
[20:43] <Anthony1996> I heard of that M3 fan translation
[20:43] <Mega> Konami has about 2 at most
[20:43] <Mega> Namco is like 1
[20:43] <Mega> Capcom is like 2-3
[20:43] <Mega> All third party companies are basically not popular enough for Nintendo to consider
[20:43] <Doc_King> yeah
[20:43] <Mega> unless you go to the insane belief that Master Chief should be in :|
[20:44] <Anthony1996> What about Captain Rainbow?
[20:44] <Mega> can't exactly imagine him <_<
[20:45] <Mr_Anon> Who would be a good Fire Emblem character?
[20:45] <Mega> Whoever has the most recent game
[20:45] <Anthony1996> Who here has even played FE?
[20:46] <Mega> <----
[20:46] <Anthony1996> Which one?
[20:46] <Mr_Anon> Samus will almost certainly remain the only rep of her series.
[20:46] <Mr_Anon> Though Ridley may reappear as a boss.
[20:46] <Doc_King> yeah
[20:46] <Mr_Anon> Pit too.
[20:46] <Mega> very likely
[20:46] <Mega> Ridley is the most pop of the bosses
[20:46] <Doc_King> Ridley is a good boss character
[20:46] <Doc_King> Pit actually could drop out
[20:47] <Doc_King> Pit is like so unknown
[20:47] <Mega> :|
[20:47] <Mega> Doc
[20:47] <Mega> you know a system
[20:47] <Mega> called the 3DS?
[20:47] <Doc_King> Yes
[20:47] <Anthony1996> UPRISING
[20:47] <Mr_Anon> DOC SHAUN AND I EXPLAINED WHY KID ICARUS IS IN.
[20:47] <Mega> DAMN IT ANTHONY
[20:47] <Doc_King> I yah i forgot about that new game
[20:47] <Mega> I WAS GOING TO ASK FUCKING RETARDED QUESTIONS
[20:47] <Doc_King> lol
[20:47] <Anthony1996> YOU'RE TOO SLOW!
[20:48] <Mega> Sonic Gen ain't for Wii biatch :P
[20:48] <Anthony1996> That new Sonic
[20:48] <Mr_Anon> I think more villains whould be put into the game.
[20:48] <Doc_King> i agree
[20:48] <Mega> well, let's list them
[20:48] <Mr_Anon> So Robotnik for Sonic, Kamek for Yoshi, etc
[20:49] <Mr_Anon> Mario has Koopa
[20:49] <Anthony1996> I'm gonna play the older Sonic
[20:49] <Mega> or just do that :L
[20:49] <Doc_King> Robotnik aint coming
[20:49] <Mr_Anon> Kirby has DDD
[20:49] <Anthony1996> The phat one
[20:49] <Mega> everyone will Anthnoy
[20:49] <Mega> everyone will
[20:49] <Mr_Anon> and MK
[20:49] <Mega> Doc
[20:49] <Mega> Eggman has a chance :/
[20:49] <Doc_King> no way man
[20:49] <Mr_Anon> Robotnik is the Sonic villain no?
[20:49] <Mega> ever think about his robots?
[20:49] <Mr_Anon> What's wrong with him?
[20:49] <Mega> you apparently forgot that he builds fucking robots
[20:49] <Anthony1996> EGGMAN VS BOWSER
[20:49] <Doc_King> Robotnik doesnt even have a person apperances really
[20:49] <Mega> if he would play too weird without armour, then he'd get a robot
[20:49] <Mega> :|
[20:50] <Mega> Eggie is in just about every single Sonic game
[20:50] <Mr_Anon> Eggman could be in one of his robot suits or something.
[20:50] <Doc_King> unless if you want a camping ass character
[20:50] <Mega> Eggman
[20:50] <Mega> builds
[20:50] <Doc_King> who flies with a ship
[20:50] <Mr_Anon> Or he could be like Olimar
[20:50] <Mega> fucking
[20:50] <Mega> robots
[20:50] <Mega> robotic
[20:50] <Mega> suits
[20:50] <Mega> are
[20:50] <Mega> very
[20:50] <Mega> possible
[20:50] <Doc_King> he could be a boss however
[20:50] <Anthony1996> KOOPA KLOWN KAR VS EGGMAN'S....FLYING WRECKING BALL THING
[20:50] <Doc_King> that would be cool
[20:50] <Mr_Anon> True...
[20:50] <Mr_Anon> That would leave Shadow as an available Sonic villain.
[20:51] <Mega> He's more of an anti-hero than anything
[20:51] <Doc_King> :D
[20:51] <Mr_Anon> What villains are there in Metal Gear?
[20:51] <Doc_King> or Knuckles
[20:51] <Mega> the only remaining villian that has appeared in several games would be Metal Sonic
[20:51] <Mega> Knuckles is pure rival
[20:51] <Mega> that's all you get from his antagonistic side
[20:51] <Mega> MG
[20:51] <Mega> has like, other Snakes
[20:51] <Mr_Anon> Mephiles?
[20:51] <Mega> Mephiles is in 1 game
[20:52] <Mr_Anon> Isn't he a villain in the Shadow series?
[20:52] <Mega> That's Black Doom
[20:52] <Mr_Anon> Oh.
[20:52] <Mega> Mephiles
[20:52] <Mega> is like
[20:52] <Mega> either a different shade of Shadow
[20:52] <Mr_Anon> The ghosts could be a Pac Man villain
[20:52] <Mega> or a crystalline Hedgehog
[20:52] <Mr_Anon> Being a "switch character" like PT.
[20:52] <Mega> Did they ever appear with arms and legs?
[20:53] <Mr_Anon> They could float like Mew2
[20:53] <Mr_Anon> And they do have arms.
[20:53] <Mr_Anon> Play Pac Man World.
[20:53] <Mega> possible then
[20:53] <Anthony1996> What moves could Pacman possibly have in Smash?
[20:53] <Mega> punches
[20:53] <Mega> kicks
[20:53] <Anthony1996> Wakka?
[20:53] <Mega> and Wakka for specials
[20:53] <Mr_Anon> Neutral special: Throw dots
[20:54] <Mr_Anon> Side special: Rev roll
[20:54] <Anthony1996> -_-
[20:54] <Mega> oh yay
[20:54] <Mr_Anon> Down special But bounce
[20:54] <Mega> the 4th spinball
[20:54] <Anthony1996> Oh yeh
[20:54] <Mr_Anon> Up special: B-doing (like sonic's spin)
[20:54] <Mega> wakka
[20:54] <Mr_Anon> If you don't know what some of them are play Pac Man World.
[20:54] <Anthony1996> I've played Pacman Wolrd 2 on Xbox
[20:54] <Mr_Anon> That's what I'm talking about.
[20:54] <Anthony1996> Pretty good phun
[20:55] <Mr_Anon> I haven't actually played the original Pac Man World.
[20:55] <Mr_Anon> Amazing soundtrack.
[20:55] <Anthony1996> Neither has I
[20:55] <Anthony1996> *have
[20:56] <Mega> anyone else you have in mind?
[20:56] <Mr_Anon> Dark Samus as a Metroid villain?
[20:56] <Mega> hmmm
[20:56] <Mr_Anon> It's possible, but I don't want a Samus clone.
[20:56] <Mega> I'd prefer a hunter
[20:56] <Mr_Anon> Rundas?
[20:56] <Mega> Rundas isn't exactly a villian per say
[20:57] <Mega> Weavel is like the closest thing to a pure villian
[20:57] <Mega> being a Space Pirate
[20:57] <Mega> he could easily become a fighter imo
[20:58] <Mr_Anon> Wolf is a Starfox villain.
[20:58] <Mr_Anon> Mew2 can be considered the Pokemon villain.
[20:58] <Mega> again, anti-hero
[20:58] <Mr_Anon> Still on the "villain side"
[20:58] <Mr_Anon> Like DDD
[20:59] <Mega> I still can't think of another series for Konami to request
[20:59] <Mr_Anon> Ganon is obviously the Zelda villain.
[20:59] <Mega> obviously
[20:59] <Mr_Anon> Though Vaati could appear as a boss.
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[20:59] <Mega> skipping Boozer
[20:59] <Mega> go by most famous
[20:59] <Mega> and you have to remember
[20:59] <Mega> nintendo
[20:59] <Mega> was willing to fuck up the storyline of tp
[21:00] <Mega> just to include Ganondorf
[21:00] <Mr_Anon> TP had a good story.
[21:00] <Mega> up until Zant reveals Ganondorf as his god
[21:00] <Mega> at that point
[21:00] <Mega> I was like
[21:00] <Mr_Anon> What's wrong with having Ganon as the main villain?
[21:00] <Mega> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[21:00] <Mega> Zant was the most badass character ever :/
[21:00] <Mr_Anon> He was the suprise villain in LTTP.
[21:00] <Mega> he kinda fucked up everything though
[21:00] <Mega> Zant turned from cool
[21:00] <Mega> to wimp
[21:01] <Mr_Anon> Zant still acted as main villain for most of the game.
[21:01] <Mega> the whole concept of Ganondorf giving Zant powers
[21:01] <Mega> is kinda what most people consider very very very random
[21:01] <Mega> and just a lame excuse to put in Ganondorf
[21:02] <Mr_Anon> Twilight Princess is supposed to parallel Ocarina of Time.
[21:02] <Mega> assuming you grew up
[21:02] <Mr_Anon> I guess this is mostly opinion though.
[21:03] <Mega> but what if we go into capcom?
[21:03] <Mega> I can only think of Dr. Wily and Sigma
[21:03] <Mr_Anon> Back on topic, what are some predictions you have for SSB4's story?
[21:03] <Mega> Wily being based on Eggman, or vice versa
[21:03] <Mega> no clue
[21:03] <Mega> either Tabuu comes back
[21:03] <Mega> or a new villian is introduced
[21:03] <Mr_Anon> I think the Battleship Halberd will be brought back.
[21:04] <Mega> pretty much, yah
[21:04] <Mr_Anon> Just like in Kirby Squeak Squad.
[21:04] <Mr_Anon> The Smashers still need to rescue Master Hand.
[21:04] <Mega> ehh
[21:04] <Mr_Anon> Maybe Crazy Hand will help them do this?
[21:04] <Mega> Crazy Hand is more destruction inclined
[21:04] <Mr_Anon> Crazy Hand is just Master Hand's more violent brother.
[21:05] <Mega> I still question MH being in as a person to be saved
[21:05] <Mr_Anon> Master Hand has to be recued in SSB4
[21:05] <Mega> If it happens, I expect jokes similiar to Peach being rescued
[21:05] <Mr_Anon> He's currently stuck with Tabuu and the Isle of Anchients in Subspace.
[21:06] <Mr_Anon> Maybe it will be revealed that Crazy Hand was the one who originally lured MH into subspace?
[21:06] <Mega> Tabuu could still be dead <_<
[21:06] <Mega> it'd have to play like the sse
[21:06] <Mega> which is kinda bad
[21:06] <Mr_Anon> Allowing Tabuu to influence him into posses him.
[21:07] <Mr_Anon> SSE was my favorite part of Brawl.
[21:07] <Mega> trust me, it was for me as well
[21:07] <Mr_Anon> I don't know what people are talking about when they insult it.
[21:07] <Mega> but the complaints from people
[21:07] <Mega> I dun know why people insult Sonic 06
[21:07] <Mega> Heroes
[21:07] <Mega> and why Nintendo hasn't made a sequel to Air Ride
[21:07] <Mega> or 4 Swords Adventure
[21:08] <Mega> in addition to Sonic Heroes 2
[21:08] <Mega> all of these greatly wanted games
[21:08] <Mega> and the cash cows ignore them :/
[21:09] <Mr_Anon> And the Subspace gunship should have a bigger role.
[21:09] <Mr_Anon> In SSE it seemed like it was a removed element.
[21:11] <Mega> SSE needed voice acting
[21:11] <Mega> and the cutscenes should be able to blend in with the stage a bit better
[21:11] <Mr_Anon> Voice acting I'm not so sure...
[21:12] <Mr_Anon> Most of the characters don't talk in their own games either.
[21:12] <Mega> they can all easily talk
[21:12] <Mega> the silent protanganists can just do nothin but nod
[21:12] <Mega> if you feel that Ness should use his voice actor
[21:12] <Mr_Anon> Ness should not talk no matter what.
[21:12] <Mega> okay
[21:13] <Mr_Anon> He, along with Link, was supposed to represent the player of his game.
[21:13] <Mega> He, Lucas, Ness, and PT are generally the silent protaganists
[21:13] <Mega> Too bad PT talks too much
[21:13] <Mr_Anon> Giving him voice acting past "PK THUNDA" would give him personality, which would ruin the original effect.
[21:13] <Mega> then he can just nod in the storyline
[21:13] <Mr_Anon> Lucas is slightly different though.
[21:14] <Mega> it's not like he has to have that much screen time
[21:15] <Mega> oh yah
[21:15] <Mr_Anon> In Mother 3, he actually has a personality
[21:15] <Mega> I forgot about Jump as a possible 3rd party company
[21:15] <Mr_Anon> Who's Jump again?
[21:15] <Mega> Jump
[21:15] <Mega> is manga
[21:15] <Mega> they have stuff like one piece
[21:15] <Mr_Anon> ???
[21:15] <Mega> dbz
[21:15] <Mega> etc.
[21:16] <Mr_Anon> I'm not sure Manga/Anime characters should be in.
[21:16] <Mega> the more popular ones do have games :/
[21:16] <Mega> Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, and DBZ being examples
[21:19] <Mr_Anon> They aren't video game characters?
[21:19] <Mr_Anon> (I didn't mean the "?)
[21:19] <Mr_Anon> They still aren't video game franchises.
[21:19] <Mr_Anon> For example, many movies have video games.
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[21:20] <Mega> ahh
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[21:20] <Mr_Anon> Hello, Vincent.
[21:21] <VT> Ohai Mr_Anon
[21:22] <Mr_Anon> Plus Goko would be REALLY awkward in story mode.
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[21:53] <Mega> gunna log out early
[21:53] <Mega> to watch tv and play games
[21:53] <Mega> before sleeping at like midnite <_<
[21:55] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> soft
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[22:05] <Mr_Anon> Omega Tyrant was pretty ticked earlier it seems.
[22:05] <Mr_Anon> (That wasn't actually my brother. I was on a candy high rush. Happens when I eat a DOTZ too many)
[22:08] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> whats a DOTZ?
[22:08] <Mr_Anon> A candy.
[22:08] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> silly american candy\
[22:08] <Mr_Anon> Last time that happened was at a halloween sleepover.
[22:09] <Mr_Anon> My poor friend got a very... unpleasant sleep.
[22:09] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> silly american halloween tradition
[22:09] <Mr_Anon> technically it's a mexican tradition.
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[22:21] <Mr_Anon> Looks like it's just you and me Anthony1996
[23:06] <Mr_Anon> Now, it's just you.
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