User:Mr. Anon

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[19:29] == Mr_Anon [webchat@50.46.239.148] has joined #sw

[19:29] <Mr_Anon> Sry about that.

[19:30] <Mr_Anon> My brother decided to mess around while I was AFK

[19:30] <Mr_Anon> Have any of you played Super Smash Flash?

[19:30] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> yep, didn't like it

[19:31] <Mr_Anon> SSF 1 sucks, but what about SSF2?

[19:31] <Anthony1996> I've play SSF2

[19:31] <Mr_Anon> Who's your main(s)?

[19:32] <Anthony1996> I don't remember how it was

[19:32] <Mr_Anon> Mine are Kirby, Ness, and Black Mage.

[19:32] <Anthony1996> I remember playing as Link

[19:32] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> i only play the smash series for the fact that is still remembers old games in a fun way with it's music, moves and re-inventing old characters so they are popular again, i doubt ssf2 would be like that

[19:33] <Mr_Anon> SSF2 is like a "mini" version of SSBB that has different characters and stages.

[19:34] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> does it have megaman

[19:34] <Mr_Anon> Just to satisfy people who go "OMG why isunt Goku in Brawl!"

[19:34] <Mr_Anon> Yes, it does have Megaman

[19:34] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> it's soooooooooooo lame

[19:34] <Mr_Anon> Why do you hate Megaman?

[19:34] <Mr_Anon> True, his games are overrated, but he is a popular character whom many people want to appear in SSB4.

[19:35] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> i hate people thinking that "megaman" and "goku" could be worthy of being in the smash series, every game in here had started a new revolution of gameplay or experimenting with music, refernces or made a game completely wierd, megaman and dragonball do not fit the criteria

[19:36] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> i would be let down by sakurai if they were in it at all

[19:36] <Mr_Anon> Dragonball is an anime, so it shouldn't be in there at all.

[19:36] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> there are games on nintendo systems

[19:37] <Mr_Anon> Megaman though... his games apparently were revolutionary to the platform/shooter genre.

[19:37] <Mr_Anon> True, he isn't Nintendo technically...

[19:37] <Mr_Anon> But Capcom has been friendly with Nintendo.

[19:38] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> they weren't it was a rip-off of the original metroid series

[19:38] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> they just gained popularity

[19:38] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> megaman is like an ipod

[19:38] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> just lame

[19:39] <Mr_Anon> I guess.

[19:40] <Mr_Anon> The Mario/DK/Yoshi/Wario series pretty much defined platforming.

[19:41] <Mr_Anon> The Zelda series revolutionized adventure games

[19:41] <Mr_Anon> The Metroid games combined platforming with freeroaming style, which made them popular.

[19:42] <Mr_Anon> The Earthbound series introduced overworld enemies, as well as surprise attacks and instawins to RPGs

[19:42] <Mr_Anon> Kirby made gaming available to the less skilled,

[19:43] <Mr_Anon> Starfox pretty much created 3 dimensional video games

[19:43] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> t'was the first

[19:45] <Mr_Anon> Pokemon has become a sensation which is arguably the most popular franchise of all time.

[19:45] <Mr_Anon> F-Zero... not sure yet what that introduced though.

[19:45] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> racing

[19:45] <Mr_Anon> Game&Watch's legacy speaks for itself

[19:45] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> first racing game ever\

[19:46] <Mr_Anon> Super Mario Kart existed before F-Zero, no>

[19:46] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> are you sure

[19:46] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> it could just be because of the concept

[19:46] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> bounty hunter and race car drinver

[19:47] <Mr_Anon> never mind you were right

[19:48] <Mr_Anon> Fire Emblem I believe greatly changed the face of strategy games.

[19:49] <Mr_Anon> Ice Climber... I'm not sure how important that was though

[19:49] <Mr_Anon> Seems very similar to Mario Bros. in gameplay.

[19:50] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> was the first screen-scrolling game

[19:50] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> and to do it upwards

[19:51] <Mr_Anon> Sonic built up his reputation though at one point being more popular than Mario

[19:52] <Mr_Anon> Metal Gear invented the stealth genre

[19:52] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> and was Sega's mascot

[19:52] <Mr_Anon> Robotic Opporating Buddies literally saved video gaming.

[19:53] <Mr_Anon> Pikmin was an important RTS game that was revolutionary throught he ability of having more than 100 moving polygons at the same time.

[19:53] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> and introduced a n ew style of gameplay

[19:53] <Doc_King> wow really

[19:53] <Doc_King> ROBs actually saved gaming?

[19:53] <Mr_Anon> Yes.

[19:54] <Mr_Anon> After ET, stores refused to sell video games

[19:54] <Anthony1996> It's true.

[19:54] <Mr_Anon> But Nintendo got ROB through by disguising him as a toy.

[19:54] <Anthony1996> Yeh

[19:54] <Anthony1996> Only two games though

[19:54] <Mr_Anon> Then when they released the NES, kids everywhere went "wait my ROB can be used with it!"

[19:54] <Anthony1996> And...

[19:54] <Mr_Anon> So video games once again became popular.

[19:54] <Anthony1996> To say the least...

[19:54] <Anthony1996> They sucked

[19:55] <Mr_Anon> He was still an important game perpherical.

[19:55] <Anthony1996> Yup

[19:55] <Mr_Anon> And Nintendo paid their debt to him by making him have cameos in all their series.

[19:56] <Anthony1996> You're talking about ROB and I'm watching a ROB combo vid

[19:56] <Anthony1996> Ain't that something?

[19:56] <MAFK> nope

[19:56] <MAFK> nothing at all

[19:56] == MAFK has changed nick to Mega

[19:56] <Mr_Anon> What series am I missing?

[19:57] <Anthony1996> Its the Iron Giant!

[19:57] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> Kid icarus

[19:57] <Mr_Anon> I forgot about him!

[19:58] <Mr_Anon> Ah... Kid icarus made the vertical scrolling platforming genre popular

[19:58] <Mr_Anon> Like a linear version of Metroid.

[19:58] <Mr_Anon> Except it wasn't a rip-off like other series.

[19:59] <Mr_Anon> Since they were made by the same person.

[19:59] <Mr_Anon> So I've shown how every series has its significance.

[19:59] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> it also was the first game to have more than one type of gameplay

[19:59] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> not every series

[19:59] <Doc_King> thats cool

[19:59] <Mr_Anon> Because of this, I think that Pac Man should be the next third party/new series.

[20:00] <Doc_King> respect for ROB

[20:00] <Mr_Anon> *Every Smash series

[20:00] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> Nope, not every smash series

[20:00] <Mr_Anon> What am I missing?

[20:00] <Mega> like, Nintendo endorsed

[20:00] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> side ones, like panel de pon

[20:00] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> golden sun

[20:01] <Mr_Anon> Never looked at those.

[20:01] <Mega> Golden Sun is in

[20:01] <Mega> Tekken would be in if Pac Man was

[20:01] <Mr_Anon> Pac Man should be in SSB64

[20:01] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> NOEZ

[20:01] <Mr_Anon> He introduced platformers period.

[20:02] <Mr_Anon> He has kept up with the evolving nature of video games with 3d platforming games.

[20:02] <Mr_Anon> Not to mention his original games are... unique to say at the least.

[20:03] <Mega> oh yah

[20:03] <Mega> did you include Zoroak as next character?

[20:03] <Mr_Anon> No I would have Mewtwo return.

[20:03] <Mega> *Zoroark

[20:03] <Mega> In all likelyhood

[20:03] <Doc_King> yes he should return

[20:03] <Mega> Mewtwo might not return :/

[20:03] <Doc_King> Mewtwo is such a special pokemon

[20:03] <Mega> Nintendo went with Lucario, who had his own movie

[20:03] <Doc_King> why would they get rid of him

[20:03] <Mega> Zoroark already had its own movie

[20:03] <Mega> already, Zoroark is guaranteed a spot in

[20:04] <Mr_Anon> He remains the best non-hacked character in the Pokemon series

[20:04] <Mega> kicking Lucario out

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[20:05] <Mr_Anon> The Pokemon series could have 6 characters

[20:05] <Anthony1996> Wow

[20:06] <Mega> PT is getting booted out

[20:06] <Mr_Anon> The mario series in SSBM had 5 characters.

[20:06] <Mega> but not in favor of the newest starters

[20:06] <Anthony1996> Yeah

[20:06] <Mega> which reduces it to Pikachu, Jigglypuff, and the replacement for Lucario

[20:06] <Mega> However, they will endorse gen 5 in some way

[20:07] <Mr_Anon> PT is not going to be booted out.

[20:07] <Mega> with the only movie star being Victini, Zekrom, Reshiram, and Zoroark

[20:07] <Mr_Anon> He remains the perfect representative of Gen 1

[20:07] <Doc_King> I think Snake is getting booted out

[20:07] <Mega> Snake isn't out

[20:07] <Doc_King> he was only in Brawl by a request

[20:07] <Mr_Anon> Who says Lucario is getting booted out.

[20:07] <Doc_King> i dont think so

[20:07] <Mr_Anon> Why can't he and Mew2 coexist?

[20:07] <Mega> Lucario, Mewtwo, and Zoroark have all appeared in movies, no?

[20:08] <Mega> It is very possible that one will be booted out in favor of the other

[20:08] <Mr_Anon> Zoroark is not a confirmed character.

[20:08] <Mr_Anon> Stop saying he is. [20:08] <Mega> his cances of being confirmed are higher than the rest of the gen 5 pokemon [20:08] <Doc_King> :p [20:08] <Mr_Anon> Mewtwo was in because he was by far the best pokemon at the time of Melee's release [20:08] <Mr_Anon> So he was put in. [20:08] <Doc_King> who thinks Tails is gonna be in the next smash game [20:08] <Doc_King> and Gewno [20:08] <Doc_King> Geno* [20:08] <Mega> Tails and Knuckles have a decent chance of being in [20:09] <Doc_King> yeah [20:09] <Mega> Geno is possibly out [20:09] <Doc_King> probably Shadow too [20:09] <Mega> unless Nintendo picks him for some random reason [20:09] <Doc_King> since ppl are overcrazed about him [20:09] <Mega> oh yah [20:09] <Mr_Anon> Pichu at the time of Melee was the representative of the latest gen. [20:09] <Mr_Anon> As was Lucario. [20:09] <Mega> Snake can't be booted out bcz Konami would only have fucking Yugi [20:09] <Mr_Anon> So Lucario did not replace Mew2 [20:09] <Mr_Anon> The PT did. [20:10] <Doc_King> oh wow [20:10] <Mega> they skipped a gen [20:10] <Mega> noticed? [20:10] <Mr_Anon> Yes, because by Brawl's release gen 4 was the latest gen, not gen 3 [20:10] <Mr_Anon> By Melee's release gen 2 was [20:10] <Mega> so why put in a gen1 character? [20:10] <Mega> You already have 2 of them [20:10] <Doc_King> gen? [20:10] <Mr_Anon> Pikachu and Jiggly are not representative of gen 1 [20:11] <Mr_Anon> They are the Pokemon universal mascots [20:11] <Doc_King> oh pokemon [20:11] <Mr_Anon> (well really only Pika is) [20:11] <Mr_Anon> (Jiggly is more of a joke character) [20:11] <Doc_King> Puff should be out [20:11] <Mr_Anon> PT is representative of gen1. [20:11] <Doc_King> I mean shes just a random Pokemon [20:11] <Mr_Anon> Mewtwo was kicked out because he sucked in Melee. [20:11] <Doc_King> and replaced with Mewtwo [20:12] <Doc_King> robably not [20:12] <Doc_King> probably* [20:12] <Mr_Anon> Again, Jigz is the perfect joke character. [20:12] <Mega> then let's kick MK for being considered godly [20:12] <Mega> Jigz is dat anime thing [20:12] <Mr_Anon> Mewtwo alternatively could have been replaced by PT [20:12] <Mr_Anon> since they can both be considered representatives of Gen1 [20:12] <Doc_King> PT is annoying to a lot of ppl [20:13] <Mega> No starters have been represented either [20:13] <Mega> so you have 2 possible choices [20:13] <Mega> though I still doubt the first 1 [20:13] <Mr_Anon> Whatever reason, I think the Pokemon cast for SSB4 should be: [20:13] <Mr_Anon> PT, Pika, Jiggly, (gen4 representative), and Mewtwo [20:13] <Mr_Anon> PT =Gen1 rep [20:13] <Mega> then you missed gen 5 :| [20:14] <Mr_Anon> *gen5 [20:14] <Mr_Anon> Pika = Poke mascot [20:14] <Mr_Anon> Jiggly = joke character [20:14] <Mega> I still believe that Zoroark is the most likely character to be in [20:14] <Doc_King> what about Pichu [20:14] <Mega> as Lucario was featured in the movie [20:14] <Mega> Pichu has about 0% [20:14] <Mega> just saying [20:14] <Doc_King> probably [20:15] <Mr_Anon> Zoroark = Lastest gen rep (unless gen 6 is out by SSB64) [20:15] <Doc_King> hes basically a deformed Pikachu [20:15] <Doc_King> that hurts himself [20:15] <Mr_Anon> Mewtwo = the legendary pokemon that gets in. [20:15] <Doc_King> yes [20:15] <Mega> another gen will definitly occur in 4 years or so [20:15] <Doc_King> hes just so unique too [20:15] <Mr_Anon> Pichu was still the gen2 rep. [20:15] <Doc_King> and special to pokemon [20:15] <Mr_Anon> gen2 no longer is the latest gen, so Pichu was removed. [20:16] == Shauns_Wiji_Dodo [~chatzilla@CPE-121-220-210-10.lns5.way.bigpond.net.au] has joined #sw [20:16] <Mr_Anon> Who else should be in? [20:16] <Mr_Anon> OT sugggests Koopa Jr. [20:16] <Mega> Boozer Jr. can easily get in [20:16] <Doc_King> what about Toad [20:16] <Mega> with more appearances happening in each Mario game [20:16] <Mega> rather than a random ass cameo [20:16] <Mega> Peach has Toad :/ [20:16] <Mr_Anon> Stop asking for toad to be in! [20:16] <Mr_Anon> Toad is not a character! [20:17] <Mega> that alone means that they won't include him [20:17] <Mr_Anon> Toad refers to a species! [20:17] <Doc_King> Son Goku! [20:17] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> he is a character in SMB2 [20:17] <Mr_Anon> By that definition Waddle Dee should be a character [20:17] <Doc_King> ehhh [20:17] <Doc_King> Ridley [20:17] <Mr_Anon> SMB2 was really a Japanese game turned into a Mario game [20:17] <Mega> Jump is definitly not gonna be in [20:17] <Mr_Anon> Ridley is too big. [20:17] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> i know anon [20:17] <Mega> Ridley can't be shrinked [20:17] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> but still [20:18] <Mega> Ridley alone is at least twice as tall as Samus [20:18] <Mega> Capcom has a chance of rep [20:18] <Doc_King> Ryu [20:18] <Mega> Not bringing in Zero, Megaman, or X would be foolish [20:18] <Doc_King> Ken [20:18] <Doc_King> Guile [20:18] <Mega> Ryu does not outrank Megaman in wants :| [20:18] <Doc_King> Megaman [20:18] <Mr_Anon> Ninten could be a character [20:19] <Mr_Anon> Having normal attacks rather than Ness' PSI [20:19] <Mega> Capcom and possibly most of the 3rd party companies would get only 3 characters at max [20:19] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> FUCK CAPCOM [20:19] <Doc_King> what about Pac Man [20:19] <Doc_King> :O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O:O [20:19] <Mr_Anon> Doc, Shauns and I discussed Megaman. [20:19] <Mega> Pac Man would be competeting with the dead Tekken [20:19] <Mr_Anon> I already mentioned Pac Man. [20:19] <Doc_King> what about Doc [20:20] <Mega> Doc is dead for sure :/ [20:20] <Doc_King> :( [20:20] <Mr_Anon> Dr. Mario was removed for a reason. [20:20] <Doc_King> Long live the king of docs [20:20] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> well, doc what has megaman done do be in the smash series [20:20] <Doc_King> lol [20:20] <Mr_Anon> I'm not going to waste braincells explaining that reason. [20:20] <Mr_Anon> Sheik should be removed. [20:20] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> NOEZ [20:20] <Doc_King> NOE! [20:20] <Mr_Anon> She has no significance in the Zelda series. [20:20] <Doc_King> Sheik is awesome [20:20] <Mega> look [20:21] <Mr_Anon> Not to mention the character is a spoiler for OoT. [20:21] <Mega> unless she appears in the new Link game [20:21] <Mega> she's gonna get out :/ [20:21] <Mr_Anon> It's called ZELDA games. [20:21] <Doc_King> Remove Olimar [20:21] <Mr_Anon> Don't say that again. [20:21] <Mega> Olimar is likely in [20:21] <Mega> PIkmin 3 [20:21] <Doc_King> hes too small to be in Brawl [20:21] <Mega> HOW CAN YOU NOT FUCKING HYPE PIKMIN 3 [20:21] <Doc_King> damnit [20:21] <Mega> Dude :/ [20:21] <Mr_Anon> I have explained why Pikmin is a significant character. [20:21] <Mega> Small? [20:22] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> sheik was an element in ocarina of time that expanded the story, and she was going to be in twilight princess [20:22] <Mega> Olimar isn't even half the size of any of the brawlerz in his games [20:22] <Mr_Anon> While technically small, Olimar appears regular sized in his games. [20:22] <Doc_King> Hes just so weird in physics [20:22] <Mega> he's a dime [20:22] <Mega> a fucking dime [20:22] <Mega> or was it a quarter? [20:22] <Mr_Anon> HE APPEARS REGULAR SIZED IN HIS GAME!!! [20:22] <Mr_Anon> HIS SERIES HAS INCREDIBLE SIGNIFICANCE. [20:22] <Doc_King> ok [20:22] <Mega> HIS SERIES [20:22] <Mega> IS GETTING PIKMIN # [20:22] <Mega> *3 [20:22] <Mega> EVEYONE KNEW IT WAS GONNA COME OUT [20:22] <Mega> THEY BASICALLY CONFIRMED IT FOR 2012 [20:22] <Mr_Anon> Guys, PLEASE read the conversation I JUST HAD with Shauns about each series' significance. [20:23] <Mr_Anon> NONE of the series need be removed entirely. [20:23] <Mega> Pikmin 3 is like what everyone wanted [20:23] <Mega> to boot the lone character? [20:23] <Mega> You'd have to be the worst director ever [20:23] <Mr_Anon> Anyways Black Shadow would be a good character for F-Zero [20:23] <Doc_King> do you think the ice climbers are staying in smash [20:23] <Mr_Anon> Yes. [20:23] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> yes [20:24] <Mr_Anon> WHAT DID I JUST SAY DOC??? [20:24] <Mega> Doc [20:24] <Mega> only [20:24] * Mega looks [20:24] <Doc_King> I think Snake might be removed in the next smash game [20:24] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> no [20:24] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> just no [20:24] <Mr_Anon> WHAT DID I JUST SAY???!!! [20:24] <Mega> Lucario, Sheik, and possibl Wario [20:24] <Mega> would be removed :| [20:24] <Mega> *possibly [20:24] <Doc_King> Wario? [20:24] <Mega> every other fuckign character [20:24] <Doc_King> no not him [20:24] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> not wario [20:24] <Mega> except maybe PT as well [20:24] <Mega> will stay in [20:25] <Mr_Anon> EVERY SERIES THAT HAS CHARACTERS IN SMASH (with the exception of Wario) HAS SIGNIFICANCE. [20:25] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> wario has significance [20:25] <Mega> Wario is beginning to grow very very very old [20:25] <Doc_King> he still has games [20:25] <Mega> Minigames [20:25] <Mr_Anon> NONE OF THEM WILL BE REMOVED. [20:25] <Mega> what happened to the mp series? [20:25] <Mega> it died [20:25] <Doc_King> and appears in many mario games and his own games [20:25] <Doc_King> Mega: then how come ice climbers arent removed [20:25] <Mega> WTF DOC [20:26] <Mega> ARE YOU UNABLE TO READ A SINGLE LINE OF TEXT [20:26] <Doc_King> i can read [20:26] <Mega> THEN WHY ARE YOU ASKING A FUCKING RETARDED QUESTION :| [20:26] <Mega> ICS CAN NOT BE REMOVED [20:26] <Mega> Only the 4 I mentioned have a chance of being removed [20:26] <Mega> Lucario has the highest [20:26] <Doc_King> how come him? [20:26] <Mega> the other 3 are barely tied with each other [20:26] <Mega> :| [20:27] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> cause he has no significance [20:27] <Mr_Anon> IF DOC ASKS FOR ANOTHER SERIES TO BE REMOVED WITHOUT ADDRESSING MY REASONS THAT I POSTED FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH SHAUNS, I WILL COMPLAIN TO OMEGATYRANT. [20:27] <Doc_King> geez man [20:27] <Doc_King> i was asking a question [20:27] <Mega> you're acting beyond retarded [20:27] <Mr_Anon> Kamek would be a good Yoshi character. [20:27] <Doc_King> no [20:27] <Doc_King> Mega: [20:27] <Mega> HEY GUYS [20:27] <Doc_King> probably [20:27] <Mega> HOW COME LUCARIO CAN'T BE IN?!? [20:28] <Doc_King> i dont play pokemon [20:28] <Mega> :| [20:28] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> neither [20:28] <Doc_King> so i dont know his significance [20:28] <Mr_Anon> what's wrong with Kamek? [20:28] <Mega> Kamek has a chance [20:28] <Mr_Anon> He's the only other Yoshi character available. [20:28] <Doc_King> yeah [20:28] <Doc_King> and the babys [20:28] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> dude... bowser jr [20:28] <Mega> correction [20:28] <Doc_King> no thats baby bowser [20:28] <Mega> baby bowser :/ [20:28] <Mr_Anon> I mentioned Jr. as a Mario possibility. [20:28] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> whatever [20:29] <Mega> bowser jr. is a completely different character [20:29] <Doc_King> what about Waluigi [20:29] <Mega> He'd have more demands [20:29] <Doc_King> or Koopa [20:29] <Mr_Anon> I don't think Sakurai likes having characters that are technically other characters. [20:29] <Mega> Koopa has 0 [20:29] <Mega> If Koopa is in [20:29] <Mega> then so is freaking toad [20:29] <Mr_Anon> That's the reason he removed Doc and Young Link. [20:29] <Mega> and the waddles [20:29] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> waluigi = not enough significance [20:29] <Doc_King> yeah [20:29] <Mr_Anon> Koopa is already a characters. [20:29] <Mr_Anon> *Character. [20:29] <Mr_Anon> We americans chose to call him "Bowser". [20:30] <Doc_King> oh ok [20:30] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> silly americans [20:30] <Mr_Anon> I believe you mean "Koopa Troopa". [20:30] <Doc_King> yes [20:30] <Doc_King> the minion [20:30] <Doc_King> or Shy Guy [20:30] <Mega> Toad=0 [20:30] <Mega> Waddle= [20:30] <Mega> 0 [20:30] <Mega> by default [20:30] <Mr_Anon> Unless they are a real character, I don't think they should even be considered. [20:30] <Mega> All other common enemies=0 [20:30] == VT [~VincentTr@cpe-98-154-180-86.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #sw [20:31] <Mr_Anon> Master Hand should be unlockable. [20:31] <Doc_King> no [20:31] <Mr_Anon> But only after like 10,000 Brawls [20:31] <Mega> The size issue [20:31] <Mega> the size issue [20:31] <Mr_Anon> And clearing story mode perfectly. [20:31] <Mr_Anon> He was playable fine in Melee. [20:31] <Doc_King> he would most likely be banned [20:31] <Anthony1996> Yeh [20:31] <Mega> Doc [20:31] <Anthony1996> the glitch [20:31] <Mr_Anon> Who cares if he would be banned. [20:31] <Mega> you assume banning for any character [20:31] <Mega> no one gives a crap :| [20:31] <Doc_King> however you had to use the time limit to beat him [20:31] <Mr_Anon> Sakurai likes to appeal to casual players. [20:32] <Doc_King> changing the metagame around [20:32] <Mega> MH still has a size issue, which would mean Ridley would have a higher chance than you said earlier [20:32] <Mr_Anon> Ridley remains best as a boss. [20:32] <Mr_Anon> Even as a boss, he is larger than MH. [20:32] <Doc_King> like dedede would most likely be able to infinite Ridley [20:32] <Mega> I still don't see how MH would work [20:32] <Mega> as a hand [20:32] <Doc_King> what about Giga Bowser [20:32] <Mr_Anon> Again, if MH is the only one of his kind, and a super-secret character, he could work. [20:32] <Mega> Nintedo would have a hard time thinking about what he could do [20:32] <Mega> don't even go there :| [20:33] <Doc_King> or metal mario [20:33] <Mega> don't even go there [20:33] <Mr_Anon> MH should be fully controllable (like in SSB64) and be cheap in every way. [20:33] == VT [~VincentTr@cpe-98-154-180-86.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [20:33] <Doc_King> what about Birdo [20:33] <Doc_King> and Daisy [20:33] <Mega> :| [20:33] <Doc_King> or K rool [20:33] <Mr_Anon> Birdo is not a Mario character. [20:33] <Mega> :| [20:33] <Mr_Anon> Daisy is really a Wario character. [20:33] <Doc_King> shes not? [20:33] <Mega> have you even seen K Rool? [20:33] <Doc_King> hes like the size of bowser [20:34] <Mr_Anon> Birdo, he first appeared in Doki Doki Panic [20:34] <Mega> no, in games :| [20:34] <Mr_Anon> No need to introduce a new series. [20:34] <Mega> He's been gone for several years [20:34] <Mega> he's not gonna have a favorable chance [20:34] == VT [~VincentTr@cpe-98-154-180-86.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #sw [20:34] <Mr_Anon> Regarding MH, I still think he could work as the "final super cheap banned character". [20:34] <Mr_Anon> Doesn't mean he has to be playable in tourneys. [20:35] <Doc_King> nah [20:35] <Mr_Anon> I want to legally play as the hand. [20:35] <Mega> tournies aren't everything :L [20:35] <Mega> but I still find him as weirder to play than everyone else [20:35] <Mr_Anon> (By legally, I mean without hacking or a glitch) [20:35] <Mr_Anon> MH is also the main character in the series. [20:35] <Doc_King> yeah [20:35] <Doc_King> true [20:35] <Mr_Anon> his final smash could be summoning Crazy Hand. [20:36] <Doc_King> what about Tabuu [20:36] <Mega> :/ [20:36] <Mr_Anon> Making him fully controlable would also make him more difficult in Classic. [20:36] <Mr_Anon> Tabuu is tricky... [20:36] <Mega> Tabuu just isn't as notable as MH [20:36] <Mr_Anon> First he needs to remain the main villain of SSB4's story. [20:36] <Mr_Anon> Second he has to be able to move. [20:36] <Doc_King> yeah [20:36] <Mega> float around, like a hand [20:36] <Mr_Anon> It would be really awkward move through teleporting. [20:37] <Mega> MH would make much more sense to be played as [20:37] <Mega> All other bosses in the series except MH have like no chance of being in [20:37] <Mega> so don't even suggest more of them :/ [20:37] <Mr_Anon> Porky could be a character. [20:38] <Mega> Porky would use? [20:38] <Mr_Anon> His Earthbound spider mech is much smaller than his Mother 3 (brawl) one. [20:38] <Mega> Know why they didn't name Megatron Galvatron in rotf? [20:38] <Mr_Anon> He has powerful PSI moves (almost as powerful as Giygas), as well as bombs, teargas, and other stuff. [20:38] <Mega> bcz people who watched the movie would wonder where the fuck did Megatron go [20:39] <Doc_King> what about Krystal [20:39] <Mega> the logic can be applied here, except people would be confused of size [20:39] <Mr_Anon> Starfox has enough characters. [20:39] <Mega> ^ [20:39] <Doc_King> not rly [20:39] <Mr_Anon> Krystal would make Starfox outnumber Kirby [20:39] <Mega> Doc [20:39] <Mega> Mario has da most [20:39] <Mr_Anon> Which I don't think is right. [20:39] <Mega> cuz they're the most popular [20:39] <Mega> going by popularity [20:39] <Mega> Kirby would outrank Fox [20:39] <Doc_King> no actually pokemon is the most popular [20:40] <Mr_Anon> Starfox has 7 games, 2 of whicha remakes of Starfox 1 and one of which was never released in the first place. [20:40] <Mega> how I'd love to say that you likely played a Pokemon game before [20:40] <Doc_King> and Snake is more popular than Fire Emblem and Earth Bound [20:40] <Mega> wut [20:40] <Mr_Anon> Kirby has more than 11 stand-alone games, and 20 total (including remakes and puzzle games) [20:40] <Mr_Anon> True, Metal Gear is more opular than Fire Emblem and Earthbound [20:40] <Mega> did ya include the new Kirby? [20:41] <Mega> How popular is Earthbound in Japan? [20:41] <Mr_Anon> But Snake is a guest character, while FE and EB are veteran series so they would naturally have more guys. [20:41] <Anthony1996> Very [20:41] <Mega> exactly [20:41] <Mr_Anon> Earthbound is also pretty popular here in the States [20:41] <Mega> popular enough to the point that Americans are requesting that it be released by Nintendo [20:42] <Mega> rather than playing fanmade translations [20:42] <Mr_Anon> At least with the few people who have played it here. [20:42] <Mr_Anon> Earthbound was released here. [20:42] <Mr_Anon> EB0 was translated. [20:42] <Mr_Anon> Mother 3 is the only fan translation. [20:42] <Anthony1996> On an actual SNES [20:42] <Mega> Every game in the series have been translated [20:42] <Mr_Anon> We're going off topic. [20:43] <Mega> well what other characters could be considered? [20:43] <Mega> Sonic has at most 3 [20:43] <Anthony1996> I heard of that M3 fan translation [20:43] <Mega> Konami has about 2 at most [20:43] <Mega> Namco is like 1 [20:43] <Mega> Capcom is like 2-3 [20:43] <Mega> All third party companies are basically not popular enough for Nintendo to consider [20:43] <Doc_King> yeah [20:43] <Mega> unless you go to the insane belief that Master Chief should be in :| [20:44] <Anthony1996> What about Captain Rainbow? [20:44] <Mega> can't exactly imagine him <_< [20:45] <Mr_Anon> Who would be a good Fire Emblem character? [20:45] <Mega> Whoever has the most recent game [20:45] <Anthony1996> Who here has even played FE? [20:46] <Mega> <---- [20:46] <Anthony1996> Which one? [20:46] <Mr_Anon> Samus will almost certainly remain the only rep of her series. [20:46] <Mr_Anon> Though Ridley may reappear as a boss. [20:46] <Doc_King> yeah [20:46] <Mr_Anon> Pit too. [20:46] <Mega> very likely [20:46] <Mega> Ridley is the most pop of the bosses [20:46] <Doc_King> Ridley is a good boss character [20:46] <Doc_King> Pit actually could drop out [20:47] <Doc_King> Pit is like so unknown [20:47] <Mega> :| [20:47] <Mega> Doc [20:47] <Mega> you know a system [20:47] <Mega> called the 3DS? [20:47] <Doc_King> Yes [20:47] <Anthony1996> UPRISING [20:47] <Mr_Anon> DOC SHAUN AND I EXPLAINED WHY KID ICARUS IS IN. [20:47] <Mega> DAMN IT ANTHONY [20:47] <Doc_King> I yah i forgot about that new game [20:47] <Mega> I WAS GOING TO ASK FUCKING RETARDED QUESTIONS [20:47] <Doc_King> lol [20:47] <Anthony1996> YOU'RE TOO SLOW! [20:48] <Mega> Sonic Gen ain't for Wii biatch :P [20:48] <Anthony1996> That new Sonic [20:48] <Mr_Anon> I think more villains whould be put into the game. [20:48] <Doc_King> i agree [20:48] <Mega> well, let's list them [20:48] <Mr_Anon> So Robotnik for Sonic, Kamek for Yoshi, etc [20:49] <Mr_Anon> Mario has Koopa [20:49] <Anthony1996> I'm gonna play the older Sonic [20:49] <Mega> or just do that :L [20:49] <Doc_King> Robotnik aint coming [20:49] <Mr_Anon> Kirby has DDD [20:49] <Anthony1996> The phat one [20:49] <Mega> everyone will Anthnoy [20:49] <Mega> everyone will [20:49] <Mr_Anon> and MK [20:49] <Mega> Doc [20:49] <Mega> Eggman has a chance :/ [20:49] <Doc_King> no way man [20:49] <Mr_Anon> Robotnik is the Sonic villain no? [20:49] <Mega> ever think about his robots? [20:49] <Mr_Anon> What's wrong with him? [20:49] <Mega> you apparently forgot that he builds fucking robots [20:49] <Anthony1996> EGGMAN VS BOWSER [20:49] <Doc_King> Robotnik doesnt even have a person apperances really [20:49] <Mega> if he would play too weird without armour, then he'd get a robot [20:49] <Mega> :| [20:50] <Mega> Eggie is in just about every single Sonic game [20:50] <Mr_Anon> Eggman could be in one of his robot suits or something. [20:50] <Doc_King> unless if you want a camping ass character [20:50] <Mega> Eggman [20:50] <Mega> builds [20:50] <Doc_King> who flies with a ship [20:50] <Mr_Anon> Or he could be like Olimar [20:50] <Mega> fucking [20:50] <Mega> robots [20:50] <Mega> robotic [20:50] <Mega> suits [20:50] <Mega> are [20:50] <Mega> very [20:50] <Mega> possible [20:50] <Doc_King> he could be a boss however [20:50] <Anthony1996> KOOPA KLOWN KAR VS EGGMAN'S....FLYING WRECKING BALL THING [20:50] <Doc_King> that would be cool [20:50] <Mr_Anon> True... [20:50] <Mr_Anon> That would leave Shadow as an available Sonic villain. [20:51] <Mega> He's more of an anti-hero than anything [20:51] <Doc_King> :D [20:51] <Mr_Anon> What villains are there in Metal Gear? [20:51] <Doc_King> or Knuckles [20:51] <Mega> the only remaining villian that has appeared in several games would be Metal Sonic [20:51] <Mega> Knuckles is pure rival [20:51] <Mega> that's all you get from his antagonistic side [20:51] <Mega> MG [20:51] <Mega> has like, other Snakes [20:51] <Mr_Anon> Mephiles? [20:51] <Mega> Mephiles is in 1 game [20:52] <Mr_Anon> Isn't he a villain in the Shadow series? [20:52] <Mega> That's Black Doom [20:52] <Mr_Anon> Oh. [20:52] <Mega> Mephiles [20:52] <Mega> is like [20:52] <Mega> either a different shade of Shadow [20:52] <Mr_Anon> The ghosts could be a Pac Man villain [20:52] <Mega> or a crystalline Hedgehog [20:52] <Mr_Anon> Being a "switch character" like PT. [20:52] <Mega> Did they ever appear with arms and legs? [20:53] <Mr_Anon> They could float like Mew2 [20:53] <Mr_Anon> And they do have arms. [20:53] <Mr_Anon> Play Pac Man World. [20:53] <Mega> possible then [20:53] <Anthony1996> What moves could Pacman possibly have in Smash? [20:53] <Mega> punches [20:53] <Mega> kicks [20:53] <Anthony1996> Wakka? [20:53] <Mega> and Wakka for specials [20:53] <Mr_Anon> Neutral special: Throw dots [20:54] <Mr_Anon> Side special: Rev roll [20:54] <Anthony1996> -_- [20:54] <Mega> oh yay [20:54] <Mr_Anon> Down special But bounce [20:54] <Mega> the 4th spinball [20:54] <Anthony1996> Oh yeh [20:54] <Mr_Anon> Up special: B-doing (like sonic's spin) [20:54] <Mega> wakka [20:54] <Mr_Anon> If you don't know what some of them are play Pac Man World. [20:54] <Anthony1996> I've played Pacman Wolrd 2 on Xbox [20:54] <Mr_Anon> That's what I'm talking about. [20:54] <Anthony1996> Pretty good phun [20:55] <Mr_Anon> I haven't actually played the original Pac Man World. [20:55] <Mr_Anon> Amazing soundtrack. [20:55] <Anthony1996> Neither has I [20:55] <Anthony1996> *have [20:56] <Mega> anyone else you have in mind? [20:56] <Mr_Anon> Dark Samus as a Metroid villain? [20:56] <Mega> hmmm [20:56] <Mr_Anon> It's possible, but I don't want a Samus clone. [20:56] <Mega> I'd prefer a hunter [20:56] <Mr_Anon> Rundas? [20:56] <Mega> Rundas isn't exactly a villian per say [20:57] <Mega> Weavel is like the closest thing to a pure villian [20:57] <Mega> being a Space Pirate [20:57] <Mega> he could easily become a fighter imo [20:58] <Mr_Anon> Wolf is a Starfox villain. [20:58] <Mr_Anon> Mew2 can be considered the Pokemon villain. [20:58] <Mega> again, anti-hero [20:58] <Mr_Anon> Still on the "villain side" [20:58] <Mr_Anon> Like DDD [20:59] <Mega> I still can't think of another series for Konami to request [20:59] <Mr_Anon> Ganon is obviously the Zelda villain. [20:59] <Mega> obviously [20:59] <Mr_Anon> Though Vaati could appear as a boss. [20:59] == Doc_King [mibbit@64.252.124.32] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [20:59] <Mega> skipping Boozer [20:59] <Mega> go by most famous [20:59] <Mega> and you have to remember [20:59] <Mega> nintendo [20:59] <Mega> was willing to fuck up the storyline of tp [21:00] <Mega> just to include Ganondorf [21:00] <Mr_Anon> TP had a good story. [21:00] <Mega> up until Zant reveals Ganondorf as his god [21:00] <Mega> at that point [21:00] <Mega> I was like [21:00] <Mr_Anon> What's wrong with having Ganon as the main villain? [21:00] <Mega> FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF [21:00] <Mega> Zant was the most badass character ever :/ [21:00] <Mr_Anon> He was the suprise villain in LTTP. [21:00] <Mega> he kinda fucked up everything though [21:00] <Mega> Zant turned from cool [21:00] <Mega> to wimp [21:01] <Mr_Anon> Zant still acted as main villain for most of the game. [21:01] <Mega> the whole concept of Ganondorf giving Zant powers [21:01] <Mega> is kinda what most people consider very very very random [21:01] <Mega> and just a lame excuse to put in Ganondorf [21:02] <Mr_Anon> Twilight Princess is supposed to parallel Ocarina of Time. [21:02] <Mega> assuming you grew up [21:02] <Mr_Anon> I guess this is mostly opinion though. [21:03] <Mega> but what if we go into capcom? [21:03] <Mega> I can only think of Dr. Wily and Sigma [21:03] <Mr_Anon> Back on topic, what are some predictions you have for SSB4's story? [21:03] <Mega> Wily being based on Eggman, or vice versa [21:03] <Mega> no clue [21:03] <Mega> either Tabuu comes back [21:03] <Mega> or a new villian is introduced [21:03] <Mr_Anon> I think the Battleship Halberd will be brought back. [21:04] <Mega> pretty much, yah [21:04] <Mr_Anon> Just like in Kirby Squeak Squad. [21:04] <Mr_Anon> The Smashers still need to rescue Master Hand. [21:04] <Mega> ehh [21:04] <Mr_Anon> Maybe Crazy Hand will help them do this? [21:04] <Mega> Crazy Hand is more destruction inclined [21:04] <Mr_Anon> Crazy Hand is just Master Hand's more violent brother. [21:05] <Mega> I still question MH being in as a person to be saved [21:05] <Mr_Anon> Master Hand has to be recued in SSB4 [21:05] <Mega> If it happens, I expect jokes similiar to Peach being rescued [21:05] <Mr_Anon> He's currently stuck with Tabuu and the Isle of Anchients in Subspace. [21:06] <Mr_Anon> Maybe it will be revealed that Crazy Hand was the one who originally lured MH into subspace? [21:06] <Mega> Tabuu could still be dead <_< [21:06] <Mega> it'd have to play like the sse [21:06] <Mega> which is kinda bad [21:06] <Mr_Anon> Allowing Tabuu to influence him into posses him. [21:07] <Mr_Anon> SSE was my favorite part of Brawl. [21:07] <Mega> trust me, it was for me as well [21:07] <Mr_Anon> I don't know what people are talking about when they insult it. [21:07] <Mega> but the complaints from people [21:07] <Mega> I dun know why people insult Sonic 06 [21:07] <Mega> Heroes [21:07] <Mega> and why Nintendo hasn't made a sequel to Air Ride [21:07] <Mega> or 4 Swords Adventure [21:08] <Mega> in addition to Sonic Heroes 2 [21:08] <Mega> all of these greatly wanted games [21:08] <Mega> and the cash cows ignore them :/ [21:09] <Mr_Anon> And the Subspace gunship should have a bigger role. [21:09] <Mr_Anon> In SSE it seemed like it was a removed element. [21:11] <Mega> SSE needed voice acting [21:11] <Mega> and the cutscenes should be able to blend in with the stage a bit better [21:11] <Mr_Anon> Voice acting I'm not so sure... [21:12] <Mr_Anon> Most of the characters don't talk in their own games either. [21:12] <Mega> they can all easily talk [21:12] <Mega> the silent protanganists can just do nothin but nod [21:12] <Mega> if you feel that Ness should use his voice actor [21:12] <Mr_Anon> Ness should not talk no matter what. [21:12] <Mega> okay [21:13] <Mr_Anon> He, along with Link, was supposed to represent the player of his game. [21:13] <Mega> He, Lucas, Ness, and PT are generally the silent protaganists [21:13] <Mega> Too bad PT talks too much [21:13] <Mr_Anon> Giving him voice acting past "PK THUNDA" would give him personality, which would ruin the original effect. [21:13] <Mega> then he can just nod in the storyline [21:13] <Mr_Anon> Lucas is slightly different though. [21:14] <Mega> it's not like he has to have that much screen time [21:15] <Mega> oh yah [21:15] <Mr_Anon> In Mother 3, he actually has a personality [21:15] <Mega> I forgot about Jump as a possible 3rd party company [21:15] <Mr_Anon> Who's Jump again? [21:15] <Mega> Jump [21:15] <Mega> is manga [21:15] <Mega> they have stuff like one piece [21:15] <Mr_Anon> ??? [21:15] <Mega> dbz [21:15] <Mega> etc. [21:16] <Mr_Anon> I'm not sure Manga/Anime characters should be in. [21:16] <Mega> the more popular ones do have games :/ [21:16] <Mega> Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, and DBZ being examples [21:19] <Mr_Anon> They aren't video game characters? [21:19] <Mr_Anon> (I didn't mean the "?) [21:19] <Mr_Anon> They still aren't video game franchises. [21:19] <Mr_Anon> For example, many movies have video games. [21:20] == VT_ [~VincentTr@cpe-98-154-180-86.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #sw [21:20] <Mega> ahh [21:20] == VT [~VincentTr@cpe-98-154-180-86.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] [21:20] == VT_ has changed nick to VT [21:20] <Mr_Anon> Hello, Vincent. [21:21] <VT> Ohai Mr_Anon [21:22] <Mr_Anon> Plus Goko would be REALLY awkward in story mode. [21:32] == VT [~VincentTr@cpe-98-154-180-86.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: DO A BARREL ROLL!!!] [21:53] <Mega> gunna log out early [21:53] <Mega> to watch tv and play games [21:53] <Mega> before sleeping at like midnite <_< [21:55] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> soft [21:58] == Mega [mibbit@cpe-72-129-26-92.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] [22:05] <Mr_Anon> Omega Tyrant was pretty ticked earlier it seems. [22:05] <Mr_Anon> (That wasn't actually my brother. I was on a candy high rush. Happens when I eat a DOTZ too many) [22:08] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> whats a DOTZ? [22:08] <Mr_Anon> A candy. [22:08] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> silly american candy\ [22:08] <Mr_Anon> Last time that happened was at a halloween sleepover. [22:09] <Mr_Anon> My poor friend got a very... unpleasant sleep. [22:09] <Shauns_Wiji_Dodo> silly american halloween tradition [22:09] <Mr_Anon> technically it's a mexican tradition.

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[22:21] <Mr_Anon> Looks like it's just you and me Anthony1996

[23:06] <Mr_Anon> Now, it's just you.