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:There are two particular errors I see. You should never used the words "cheap" and "broken" in a serious essay about competitive gaming unless you're using them to make a point. Your sentence "Yes, Brawl does have Meta Knight and Snake, 2 of the most broken characters in probably the history of SSB." is faulty for describing Meta Knight and Snake as "broken". The terms "cheap" and "broken" are subjective and should never be used in an objective standpoint. The second fault is how you mention Fox lost his Shine spike in ''Brawl'', which he did not. He lost his Shine combos. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 18:08, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
:There are two particular errors I see. You should never used the words "cheap" and "broken" in a serious essay about competitive gaming unless you're using them to make a point. Your sentence "Yes, Brawl does have Meta Knight and Snake, 2 of the most broken characters in probably the history of SSB." is faulty for describing Meta Knight and Snake as "broken". The terms "cheap" and "broken" are subjective and should never be used in an objective standpoint. The second fault is how you mention Fox lost his Shine spike in ''Brawl'', which he did not. He lost his Shine combos. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 18:08, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. It's fixed now. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 18:18, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry about that. It's fixed now. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 18:18, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
I agree that brawl is quite a bit more balanced, and getting rid of hitstun and physics exploits and such does balance it, but I kinda think having special techniques that are sorta hard to execute like wavedashing do add to the competitiveness. It draws a line between competitive and casual players, and don't really agree that more balanced=more competitive. If so, the tournies would make everyone play as one character to balance out the match and make it based on skill. I get what your trying to say though. Also...
"In football, weather is unpredictable, much like tripping in Brawl, and it can turn the tide of a match. But does that make football less competitive? Of course not."
I don't really agree. It seems a lot of this said "Brawl is more balanced and thus more based skill and more competitive," and while I disagree with that, I think basing it on luck is a lot less competitive than basing it on wavedashing and other physics exploits.[[User:Dhawk|Dhawk]] ([[User talk:Dhawk|talk]]) 21:06, 8 December 2010 (EST)

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If you disagree with the content of the essay, or have found errors or holes, bring it up here. Anon 18:45, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

Minor quibble, but L-cancelling is not a physics exploit like wavedashing is, although it is presented as such. It should be slightly reworded. Toomai Glittershine Toomai.png 20:08, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
If it isn't a physics exploit, is it a glitch? Sir Anon the great 20:54, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
L Caneling is a technique. Read the articles Anon.--MegaTron1XD:p 20:55, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it's a technique. That doesn't mean it can't be a glitch or a physics exploit. Wavedashing was a "technique". Was L canceling intentionally put into the games, or is it a glitch? That's what I'm asking. Sir Anon the great 20:59, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
Intentionally. Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) Dp99.png 21:00, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
OK then, I'll change it. Anon 21:08, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

So, is there any other error you guys see? Mr. Anon teh awsome 17:36, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

There are two particular errors I see. You should never used the words "cheap" and "broken" in a serious essay about competitive gaming unless you're using them to make a point. Your sentence "Yes, Brawl does have Meta Knight and Snake, 2 of the most broken characters in probably the history of SSB." is faulty for describing Meta Knight and Snake as "broken". The terms "cheap" and "broken" are subjective and should never be used in an objective standpoint. The second fault is how you mention Fox lost his Shine spike in Brawl, which he did not. He lost his Shine combos. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 18:08, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry about that. It's fixed now. Mr. Anon teh awsome 18:18, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that brawl is quite a bit more balanced, and getting rid of hitstun and physics exploits and such does balance it, but I kinda think having special techniques that are sorta hard to execute like wavedashing do add to the competitiveness. It draws a line between competitive and casual players, and don't really agree that more balanced=more competitive. If so, the tournies would make everyone play as one character to balance out the match and make it based on skill. I get what your trying to say though. Also... "In football, weather is unpredictable, much like tripping in Brawl, and it can turn the tide of a match. But does that make football less competitive? Of course not." I don't really agree. It seems a lot of this said "Brawl is more balanced and thus more based skill and more competitive," and while I disagree with that, I think basing it on luck is a lot less competitive than basing it on wavedashing and other physics exploits.Dhawk (talk) 21:06, 8 December 2010 (EST)