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Many players have also supported a ban of the Ice Climbers in tournaments as well. While this almost never occurred during ''Brawl''{{'}}s competitive lifetime, it became common following the release of ''Smash 4'', with several of the few ''Brawl'' tournaments still hosted choosing to ban both Meta Knight and the Ice Climbers. | Many players have also supported a ban of the Ice Climbers in tournaments as well. While this almost never occurred during ''Brawl''{{'}}s competitive lifetime, it became common following the release of ''Smash 4'', with several of the few ''Brawl'' tournaments still hosted choosing to ban both Meta Knight and the Ice Climbers. | ||
Conversely, characters such as {{SSBB|Ganondorf}}, {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}} and {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}} are severely underpowered in competitive play | Conversely, characters such as {{SSBB|Ganondorf}}, {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}} and {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}} are severely underpowered in competitive play, and need to execute many punishes that frequently adds up to stray hits to even hold equal footing with top-tier characters, while being punished extremely hard in return for even minor mistakes. The consequences of a low-tier making a single mistake is even more pronounced here compared to previous games due to ''Brawl'' removing the combos and hitstun that defined their gameplans in ''Melee''. | ||
===Other criticisms=== | ===Other criticisms=== |