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==[[User:Toomai|Toomai]]'s [[User:Toomai/Cloneosity|Cloneosity]] Edited==
==[[User:Toomai|Toomai]]'s [[User:Toomai/Cloneosity|Cloneosity]] Edited==
This edited version negates the penalty/benefit of having custom moves shared with other characters ands a column for Grabs. I have changed what is considered a cloned move based on what the actual clone page states. Ex: Falco's UAir, Wolf's BAir and SideB, Ganon's Tilts, etc. Non-clones are also removed except Smash 64 Falcon for reference.
This edited version negates the penalty/benefit of having custom moves shared with other characters, ignores the unimportant floor attacks, and adds a column for Grabs. Also negated any penalty if a clone borrows a move from a different parent, like Chrom having Ike's Up Special. I have changed what is considered a cloned move based on what the actual [[clone]] page states and comparing the individual move page data. Non-clones are also removed except Smash 64 Falcon and early Jigglypuff to show the "unclonification" for reference.


===SSB64===
===SSB64===
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!Original!!Possible clone
!Original!!Possible clone
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!FThw!!BThw!!NSp!!USp!!DSp
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!FThw!!BThw!!{{rollover|NSp|Neutral Special|y}}!!{{rollover|USp|Up Special|y}}!!{{rollover|DSp|Down Special|y}}
!Total!!%
!Total!!%
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!Original!!Possible clone
!Original!!Possible clone
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!Pml!!FThw!!BThw!!UThw!!DThw!!NSp!!SSp!!USp!!DSp
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!Pml!!FThw!!BThw!!UThw!!DThw!!{{rollover|NSp|Neutral Special|y}}!!{{rollover|SSp|Side Special|y}}!!{{rollover|USp|Up Special|y}}!!{{rollover|DSp|Down Special|y}}
!Total!!%
!Total!!%
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!Original!!Possible clone
!Original!!Possible clone
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!Pml!!FThw!!BThw!!UThw!!DThw!!NSp!!SSp!!USp!!DSp!!FS
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!Pml!!FThw!!BThw!!UThw!!DThw!!{{rollover|NSp|Neutral Special|y}}!!{{rollover|SSp|Side Special|y}}!!{{rollover|USp|Up Special|y}}!!{{rollover|DSp|Down Special|y}}!!{{rollover|FS|Final Smash|y}}
!Total!!%
!Total!!%
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|Fox||Wolf
|Fox||Wolf
|0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||1||1||0||0||0||0||0.5||0.5||1||1||1
|0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||1||1||0||0||0||0||0.5||0.5||0.5||1||1
|6/24||25.0%
|5.5/24||22.9%
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|Captain Falcon||Ganondorf
|Captain Falcon||Ganondorf
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!Original!!Possible clone
!Original!!Possible clone
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!Pml!!FThw!!BThw!!UThw!!DThw!!NSp!!SSp!!USp!!DSp!!FS
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!Pml!!FThw!!BThw!!UThw!!DThw!!{{rollover|NSp|Neutral Special|y}}!!{{rollover|SSp|Side Special|y}}!!{{rollover|USp|Up Special|y}}!!{{rollover|DSp|Down Special|y}}!!{{rollover|FS|Final Smash|y}}
!Total!!%
!Total!!%
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!Original!!Possible clone
!Original!!Possible clone
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!Pml!!FThw!!BThw!!UThw!!DThw!!NSp!!SSp!!USp!!DSp!!FS
!Jab!!FTlt!!UTlt!!DTlt!!DAtk!!FSmh!!USmh!!DSmh!!NAir!!FAir!!BAir!!UAir!!DAir!!Grab!!Pml!!FThw!!BThw!!UThw!!DThw!!{{rollover|NSp|Neutral Special|y}}!!{{rollover|SSp|Side Special|y}}!!{{rollover|USp|Up Special|y}}!!{{rollover|DSp|Down Special|y}}!!{{rollover|FS|Final Smash|y}}
!Total!!%
!Total!!%
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|Mario||Luigi
|Mario||Luigi
|2/3||1||0||0||0||0||1||0||1||0||1||1||0||1||1||1||1||1||0||1||0||1||0||0
|2/3||1||1||0||0||0||1||0||1||0||1||1||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||1||0||1||0||0
|12.67/24||N/A%
|8.67/24||36.1%
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|Mario||Dr. Mario
|Mario||Dr. Mario
|1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||0||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||0||1
|1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||0||1||1||1||0||1||1||1||1||1||0||1
|22/24||N/A%
|21/24||87.5%
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|Peach||Daisy
|Peach||Daisy
|1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1
|1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1
|24/24||N/A%
|24/24||100%
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|Link||Young Link
|Link||Young Link
|1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1
|2/4||1||1||1||0||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||0||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||0.5||0
|23/24||N/A%
|20/24||83.3%
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|Link||Toon Link
|Link||Toon Link
|1||1||1||1||0||1||0||1||0||0||0||1||1||1||1||0||0||1||1||1||1||1||1||1
|2/3||1||1||1||0||0||0||1||0||0||0||1||1||0||1||0||0||1||1||1||1||1||0.5||0
|17/24||N/A%
|13.16/24||54.8%
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|Samus||Dark Samus
|Samus||Dark Samus
|1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1
|1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1
|24/24||N/A%
|24/24||100%
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|Fox||Falco
|Fox||Falco
|0||1||0||1||1||0||0||1||0||0||1||0||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||0||1
|0||1||0||1||1||0||0||1||0||0||1||0||1||1||1||1||1||1||0||1||1||1||0||1
|16/24||N/A%
|15/24||62.5%
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|Fox||Wolf
|Fox||Wolf
|0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||1||1||0||0||0||0||0.5||0.5||1||1||1
|0||0||0||0||0||0||0||0||1||0||1||0||0||1||1||0||0||0||0||0.5||0.5||0.5||1||1
|6/24||N/A%
|7.5/24||31.2%
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|Pikachu||Pichu
|Pikachu||Pichu
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|Pyra||Mythra
|Pyra||Mythra
|0||1||0||1||1||0||0||1||0||0||1||0||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||1||0||1
|2/4||1||1||1||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N||N
|16/24||N/A%
|16/24||N/A%
|}
|}

Revision as of 20:37, September 2, 2024

MrGame&WatchIcon(SSB4-U).png This is my page, full of absolutely nothing. I do have an edited Clonesity for personal use.


Toomai's Cloneosity Edited

This edited version negates the penalty/benefit of having custom moves shared with other characters, ignores the unimportant floor attacks, and adds a column for Grabs. Also negated any penalty if a clone borrows a move from a different parent, like Chrom having Ike's Up Special. I have changed what is considered a cloned move based on what the actual clone page states and comparing the individual move page data. Non-clones are also removed except Smash 64 Falcon and early Jigglypuff to show the "unclonification" for reference.

SSB64

Original Possible clone Jab FTlt UTlt DTlt DAtk FSmh USmh DSmh NAir FAir BAir UAir DAir Grab FThw BThw NSp USp DSp Total %
Mario Luigi 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 17/19 89.4%
Samus Captain Falcon 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.5/19 18.4%
Kirby Jigglypuff 2/3 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 9.67/19 50.8%

SSBM

Original Possible clone Jab FTlt UTlt DTlt DAtk FSmh USmh DSmh NAir FAir BAir UAir DAir Grab Pml FThw BThw UThw DThw NSp SSp USp DSp Total %
Mario Luigi 2/3 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 16.67/23 72.4%
Mario Dr. Mario 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23/23 100%
Link Young Link 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23/23 100%
Kirby Jigglypuff 0 1 1 0 0 0.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.5/23 19.5%
Fox Falco 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23/23 100%
Pikachu Pichu 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 22/23 95.6%
Captain Falcon Ganondorf 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 21/23 91.3%
Marth Roy 0.5 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 22.5/23 97.8%

SSBB

Original Possible clone Jab FTlt UTlt DTlt DAtk FSmh USmh DSmh NAir FAir BAir UAir DAir Grab Pml FThw BThw UThw DThw NSp SSp USp DSp FS Total %
Mario Luigi 2/3 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 13.67/24 56.9%
Link Toon Link 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 18/24 75.0%
Fox Falco 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 17/24 70.8%
Fox Wolf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0.5 0.5 0.5 1 1 5.5/24 22.9%
Captain Falcon Ganondorf 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 15/24 62.5%
Ness Lucas 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0.5 1 1 1 1 7.5/24 31.2%

SSB4

Original Possible clone Jab FTlt UTlt DTlt DAtk FSmh USmh DSmh NAir FAir BAir UAir DAir Grab Pml FThw BThw UThw DThw NSp SSp USp DSp FS Total %
Mario Luigi 2/3 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 12.67/24 52.7%
Mario Dr. Mario 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 22/24 91.6%
Link Toon Link 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 17/24 70.8%
Fox Falco 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 16/24 66.6%
Captain Falcon Ganondorf 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 15/24 62.5%
Ness Lucas 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0.5 1 1 1 1 7.5/24 31.2%
Marth Lucina 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 24/24 100%
Marth Roy 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0.5 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0.5 16/24 66.6%
Pit Dark Pit 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 23/24 95.8%

SSBU

Original Possible clone Jab FTlt UTlt DTlt DAtk FSmh USmh DSmh NAir FAir BAir UAir DAir Grab Pml FThw BThw UThw DThw NSp SSp USp DSp FS Total %
Mario Luigi 2/3 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 8.67/24 36.1%
Mario Dr. Mario 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 21/24 87.5%
Peach Daisy 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 24/24 100%
Link Young Link 2/4 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0.5 0 20/24 83.3%
Link Toon Link 2/3 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 0.5 0 13.16/24 54.8%
Samus Dark Samus 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 24/24 100%
Fox Falco 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 15/24 62.5%
Fox Wolf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0.5 0.5 0.5 1 1 7.5/24 31.2%
Pikachu Pichu 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 22/24 N/A%
Captain Falcon Ganondorf 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 15/24 N/A%
Ness Lucas 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0.5 1 1 1 1 7.5/24 N/A%
Marth Lucina 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 24/24 N/A%
Marth Roy 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0.5 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 0.5 16/24 N/A%
Roy Chrom 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 23/24 N/A%
Pit Dark Pit 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 23/24 N/A%
Villager Isabelle 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 17/24 N/A%
Ken Ryu 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 16/24 N/A%
Simon Richter 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 1 16/24 N/A%
Pyra Mythra 2/4 1 1 1 N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N N 16/24 N/A%

Analysis

Non-clone Pseudo-clone Semi-clone Full Clone
18.4%
Captain Falcon (SSB) 		19.5%
Jigglypuff (SSBM) 		25.0%
Wolf (SSBB) 		31.2%
Lucas (SSBB)Lucas (SSB4) 		??.?%
Luigi (SSBU) 		??.?%
Wolf (SSBU) 		??.?%
Lucas (SSBU) 		52.7%
Luigi (SSB4) 		50.8%
Jigglypuff (SSB) 		56.9%
Luigi (SSBB) 		66.6%
Roy (SSB4) 		62.5%
Ganondorf (SSBB)Ganondorf (SSB4) 		66.6%
Falco (SSB4) 		70.8%
Toon Link (SSB4) 		72.4%
Luigi (SSBM) 		70.8%
Falco (SSBB) 		75.0%
Toon Link (SSBB) 		??.?%
Falco (SSBU) 		??.?%
Toon Link (SSBU) 		??.?%
Ganondorf (SSBU) 		??.?%
Roy (SSBU) 		??.?%
Isabelle (SSBU) 		??.?%
Mythra (SSBU) 		??.?%
Ken (SSBU) 		91.3%
Ganondorf (SSBM) 		91.6%
Dr. Mario (SSB4) 		89.4%
Luigi (SSB) 		95.6%
Pichu (SSBM) 		95.8%
Dark Pit (SSB4) 		97.8%
Roy (SSBM) 		100%
Dr. Mario (SSBM)Young Link (SSBM)Falco (SSBM)Lucina (SSB4)
0%-19.9% 20%-39.9% 40%-79.9% 80%-100%
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