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==Overview==
==Overview==
It is a variation of [[Marth]]'s [[Dancing Blade]] (with which it shares its Japanese, Chinese and Korean name), and has the same general behavior. However, Roy's Double-Edge Dance has a [[flame|fire]] effect on the last hit (in ''Melee'', this also applies to the third hit when inputted downwards).
It is a variation of [[Marth]]'s [[Dancing Blade]] (with which it shares its Japanese, Chinese and Korean name), and has the same general behavior, with the exception that it does not stall the user in the air as effectively. Roy's Double-Edge Dance has a [[flame|fire]] effect on the last hit (in ''Melee'', this also applies to the third hit when inputted downwards).


===In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''===
===In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''===
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===In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''===
===In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''===
[[File:DEDanceSSB4.jpg|thumb|left|Double-Edge Dance in ''Smash 4''.]]
[[File:DEDanceSSB4.jpg|thumb|left|Double-Edge Dance in ''Smash 4''.]]
Double-Edge Dance returns in ''SSB4'', where it has been updated to use Marth's Dancing Blade animations from ''Brawl'' and ''SSB4'', making it one of Roy's only attacks that has not gained an animation distinct from Marth. Its many attacks have gained different attributes when compared to ''Melee'', making its hits act identically to Marth's version.  
Double-Edge Dance returns in ''SSB4'', where it has been updated to use Marth's Dancing Blade animations from ''Brawl'' and ''SSB4'', making it one of Roy's only attacks that has not gained an animation distinct from Marth. Its many attacks have gained different attributes when compared to ''Melee'', making its hits act almost identically to Marth's version.  


The unique attributes of Double-Edge Dance have now been removed: the third hit no longer acts as a flame-infused strong hit, and now chains into the fourth hit, which acts as the finisher. Additionally, all angles of the first three swings now connect into the ending hit. As a result, its only functional difference is the placement of the sweetspot and the flame effect on the final hit. Like Dancing Blade, it is now an integral move for damage-racking, catching landings and shield-pressuring when the opponent is close.  
Some of the unique attributes of Double-Edge Dance have now been removed: the third hit no longer acts as a flame-infused strong hit, and now chains into the fourth hit, which acts as the finisher. Additionally, all angles of the first three swings now connect into the ending hit. Like Dancing Blade, it is now an integral move for damage-racking, catching landings and shield-pressuring when the opponent is close.  


As Roy shares Marth's technical changes from ''Melee'' to ''Smash 4'', Double-Edge Dance now require less technical precision to input in a row and makes the attack easier to combo, but suffers from similar issues with connecting together at higher percentages.
As Roy shares Marth's technical changes from ''Melee'' to ''Smash 4'', Double-Edge Dance now require less technical precision to input in a row and makes the attack easier to combo, but suffers from similar issues with connecting together at higher percentages.


As with Dancing Blade in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', the first hit stalls Roy's movement in the air for a few frames, although Roy's higher falling speed makes this unusable for recovery in comparison to Marth's.
As with Dancing Blade in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', the first hit stalls Roy's movement in the air for a few frames, although unlike the aforementioned move, it does not make Roy lose his momentum as much. This trait, along with Roy's higher falling speed and gravity, makes this unusable for recovery in comparison to Marth's, but makes it a better approaching air-to-ground attack.
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===In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''===
===In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''===
[[file:SSBUWebsiteChrom2.jpg|thumb|left|Chrom using Double-Edge Dance in ''Ultimate''.]]
[[file:SSBUWebsiteChrom2.jpg|thumb|left|Chrom using Double-Edge Dance in ''Ultimate''.]]
Double-Edge Dance returns as Roy's side special move in ''Ultimate''. Much like in ''SSB4'', Double-Edge Dance has received identical adjustments to match Marth's Dancing Blade: each swing transitions significantly faster and can be [[buffer]]ed, and all hits have altered animations. Most infamously of all, however, the final neutral hit of Roy's Double-Edge Dance deals noticeably more knockback when sweetspotted, improving its already-impressive KO potential. On the other hand, the first swing has higher startup, making it easier to predict.
Double-Edge Dance returns as Roy's side special move in ''Ultimate''. Much like in ''SSB4'', Double-Edge Dance has received many of the same adjustments as Marth's Dancing Blade: each swing transitions significantly faster and can be [[buffer]]ed, and all hits have altered animations. Most infamously of all, however, the final neutral hit of Roy's Double-Edge Dance deals noticeably more knockback when sweetspotted, improving its already-impressive KO potential. On the other hand, the first swing has higher startup, making it easier to predict.


{{SSBU|Chrom}}, Roy's [[Echo Fighter]], shares this special move. As Chrom's [[list of swords#Falchion|Falchion]] lacks a sweetspot and sourspot, his version of Double-Edge Dance deals consistent damage and knockback; all three variations of the final hit also lack flame properties as well. As a result, his version is largely identical in appearance and function to {{SSBU|Lucina}}'s Dancing Blade, but is slightly stronger.
As Roy's Echo Fighter, the basic properties of {{SSBU|Chrom}}'s Double-Edge-Dance are identical, including it's frame data and aerial stalling ability. However, as Chrom's [[list of swords#Falchion|Falchion]] lacks a sweetspot and sourspot, his version of Double-Edge Dance deals consistent damage and knockback, but it's KO potential is hindered as the fourth forward swing of Chrom's move deals considerably less knockback than Roy's sweetspotted variant. All three variations of the final hit also lack flame properties as well.
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Revision as of 20:00, January 15, 2022

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Roy and Chrom performing the move in Ultimate.
User Roy
Chrom
Universe Fire Emblem

Double-Edge Dance (マーベラスコンビネーション, Marvelous Combination) is Roy and Chrom's side special move.

Overview

It is a variation of Marth's Dancing Blade (with which it shares its Japanese, Chinese and Korean name), and has the same general behavior, with the exception that it does not stall the user in the air as effectively. Roy's Double-Edge Dance has a fire effect on the last hit (in Melee, this also applies to the third hit when inputted downwards).

In Super Smash Bros. Melee

Double-Edge Dance's 4th slash inputted forward in Melee.

This move is integral to Roy's metagame due to its range, speed, and KO potential. It is particularly effective for approaching, as the first hit can lead into a down tilt, grab, or the subsequent hits of the attack.

The first two hits of the four hit combo are relatively weak and easily crouch canceled by opponents, but they will come out no matter how quickly they are inputted. For the third and fourth hits, the player must wait a few frames between inputs or else the attacks will not come out. The tradeoff for the difficulty in inputting the later hits is significantly higher knockback, which can knock over opponents trying to crouch cancel.

The third hit of the combination inputted upwards has a meteor smash hitbox, producing a slightly diagonal trajectory if the sourspot doesn't hit. On grounded opponents, it will knock them into the air and set up for the fourth hit. Inputted forwards, the third hit deals excellent knockback and can be used as a KO move at higher percentages. The third hit inputted downwards produces a flame effect and can knock over opponents trying to crouch cancel. Unusually, while the third hit forwards has higher base knockback, its growth is actually smaller than Dancing Blade's version, meaning it is overall less powerful at higher percentages, while also being harder to link the fourth hit together with the third hit at lower percentages.

With the exception of the downwards input, the final hits of DED deal the most knockback compared to the other hits. The upwards input has high vertical range and high knockback. The down input actually deals multiple hits, and while it deals little knockback, its long range and duration make it effective for shield stabbing and knocking down opponents attempting to crouch cancel. Compared to the other inputs, the forward one is lackluster, and rarely used.

In Super Smash Bros. 4

Double-Edge Dance in Smash 4.

Double-Edge Dance returns in SSB4, where it has been updated to use Marth's Dancing Blade animations from Brawl and SSB4, making it one of Roy's only attacks that has not gained an animation distinct from Marth. Its many attacks have gained different attributes when compared to Melee, making its hits act almost identically to Marth's version.

Some of the unique attributes of Double-Edge Dance have now been removed: the third hit no longer acts as a flame-infused strong hit, and now chains into the fourth hit, which acts as the finisher. Additionally, all angles of the first three swings now connect into the ending hit. Like Dancing Blade, it is now an integral move for damage-racking, catching landings and shield-pressuring when the opponent is close.

As Roy shares Marth's technical changes from Melee to Smash 4, Double-Edge Dance now require less technical precision to input in a row and makes the attack easier to combo, but suffers from similar issues with connecting together at higher percentages.

As with Dancing Blade in Brawl and Smash 4, the first hit stalls Roy's movement in the air for a few frames, although unlike the aforementioned move, it does not make Roy lose his momentum as much. This trait, along with Roy's higher falling speed and gravity, makes this unusable for recovery in comparison to Marth's, but makes it a better approaching air-to-ground attack.

In Super Smash Bros. Ultimate

Chrom using Double-Edge Dance in Ultimate.

Double-Edge Dance returns as Roy's side special move in Ultimate. Much like in SSB4, Double-Edge Dance has received many of the same adjustments as Marth's Dancing Blade: each swing transitions significantly faster and can be buffered, and all hits have altered animations. Most infamously of all, however, the final neutral hit of Roy's Double-Edge Dance deals noticeably more knockback when sweetspotted, improving its already-impressive KO potential. On the other hand, the first swing has higher startup, making it easier to predict.

As Roy's Echo Fighter, the basic properties of Chrom's Double-Edge-Dance are identical, including it's frame data and aerial stalling ability. However, as Chrom's Falchion lacks a sweetspot and sourspot, his version of Double-Edge Dance deals consistent damage and knockback, but it's KO potential is hindered as the fourth forward swing of Chrom's move deals considerably less knockback than Roy's sweetspotted variant. All three variations of the final hit also lack flame properties as well.

Instructional quotes

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Move List Roy (SSBU) Slashes opponents up to four times, with repeated button presses. Tilting up or down can change each attack.
Chrom (SSBU) Slashes opponents up to four times, with repeated button presses. Tilting up or down can change each attack.

Customization

Special Move customization was added in Super Smash Bros. 4. These are the variations:

1. Double-Edge Dance
Double-Edge Dance
"Time your attacks to unleash a four-hit chain. Pressing up or down will change the attack."
  1. Double-Edge Dance: Default.

Like the other DLC characters, Roy lacks custom move variations.

Origin

Roy using Astra against a Cavalier in Fire Emblem: Heroes.

Double-Edge Dance, like Dancing Blade, resembles the Astra skill introduced in the Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War, which allows its users to unleash five consecutive blows upon an enemy when activated.

While Astra does re-occur in some later games, it doesn’t exist in Roy's home game, Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade. Roy would later gain access to Astra in Fire Emblem Heroes in 2017. Although Astra is a skill in Fire Emblem Awakening, Chrom cannot learn it because the skill is exclusive to the Swordmaster class in that game, which Chrom does not have access to.

Gallery

Names in other languages

Language Name
Japan Japanese マーベラスコンビネーション, Marvelous Combination
UK English Double-Edge Dance
France French Double tranchant
Germany German Klingentanz
Spain Spanish Danza Doble del Sable
Italy Italian Doppiotaglio
China Chinese (Simplified) 炫光剑舞
Taiwan Chinese (Traditional) 炫光劍舞
South Korea Korean 댄싱 블레이드, Dancing Blade
Netherlands Dutch Tweesnijdersdans
Russia Russian Танец лезвия

Trivia

  • Double-Edge Dance and its counterpart Dancing Blade have the unique distinction in Smash of being two of the only attacks that can be considered a "Rekka". In fighting game terminology, a "Rekka" refers to a command input attack that allows for multiple follow-ups through additional command inputs, often times having a "branching path" of available attacks and options. They are traditionally utilized for combo extensions and to hit-confirm into mixups. The name is derived from the Rekkaken, one of the signature attacks of Fei Long from the Street Fighter series, who originated this type of attack.