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It's come to my attention that we have articles on games that have been lingering here for a while and need to be eliminated. Examples: Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, Star Fox: Assault. To be honest, these articles, in terms of giving information, are useless. If a character has a move that comes from a game, then that's what should be mentioned in said character's article. If a character appears in Brawl or Melee as a trophy, then the article is thus useless and should not have ever existed. We've been over this with trophy articles (surprisingly, some of them are still here).

Since that (what I said in parentheses) is true, I also propose that all trophies be merged into one article. Trophies, stickers, and games do not merit their own articles. This is why we have "list" pages. For some reason, there is a list page... and still, trophies have articles. This needs to be fixed. If we can go through with this, the Wiki will be less of a pig sty. I told OmegaTyrant this and he suggested to me that I ask for the opinions of the community, so here I am, with the forum. Go! BNK ^[E|T|C] 03:29, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

Stickers don't need articles. Trophies that are only trophies don't need articles, but if they are also something else (like a stage element), then they can stay. Certain game articles need to go, but important ones can stay. Dr. Pain 99 Talk 03:37, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

I partially agree with you, in that we have too many articles about games. However, games like Kirby and the Amazing Mirror, which have references from Smash, should definitly be kept. Mr. Anon (talk) 04:47, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

More people have to give their opinion on this. We have to set a criteria for game articles, as well as deciding if trophies deserve entire articles and if songs from SSB do as well. Omega Tyrant 03:44, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you. I don't really see a need for those articles.--MegaTron1XD 03:49, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty. BNK ^[E|T|C] 03:55, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, here's my take on this. Trophies and stickers don't need their own articles for the sake of existing as trophies, stickers or both, since all the information needed on trophies and stickers is present in the trophy and sticker list articles. However, if there is a character or thing that is of significance for other reasons, Roy Campbell, for example, it should have its own article. On these articles, extensive information that doesn't relate to Smash Bros shouldn't be included, because it's not relevant and can be found elsewhere on the internet. If said character or thing also happens to exist as a trophy or sticker, this should be mentioned in its article and a trophy description, if any, included, because that information is relevant.

Songs, with the exception of maybe the main themes of each of the three Smash games, don't need their own articles either, since all the information needed on songs is on the song list articles. However, these articles are poorly organised and badly need a cleanup, in my opinion.

Game articles should stay or go depending on their significance in the Smash Bros games. For example, Super Mario 64 has contributed quite a few different features to the series, including an item, a stage, a number of moves and animations, and, arguably, the metal character fights during classic mode. However, a lot of the article, like the information about its plot, critical reception, camera system and the like are irrelevant and have no reason to exist on the page. Star Fox Assault, on the other hand, has influenced next to nothing and, in my opinion, really isn't worthy of having its own article here. In my opinion, game articles need to be judged in terms of the number, variety and uniqueness of the contributions they have made to the Smash Bros series. This is because:

• Number - a game that has contributed too few features to Smash Bros will have an article that is too small.
• Variety - a game that has contributed features relevant only to something very specific can be covered in the articles that cover those specific things. For example, if a game contributes only to one character's moveset, the relevant information on that game can be included in the character's article.
• Uniqueness - a game that contains many features present in Smash Bros, which are also present in other games, isn't of any significance. For example, Mario Party 5 has the characters Mario, Luigi, Peach and Bowser, and Boo (who appears on the Luigi's Mansion stage), but this doesn't make it significant, because Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser and Boo also appear in a lot of other, more significant games.

Obviously everyone has a different opinion with regards to the importance of game articles, so each game article page should probably be thoroughly discussed before deleting. That's all for now, folks. Mako Shark (talk) 07:40, July 9, 2010 (UTC)