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**{{nerf|Pikmin take fall damage when thrown and landing on the ground.}}
**{{nerf|Pikmin take fall damage when thrown and landing on the ground.}}
**{{bugfix|The removal of [[multiple player slot glitch]] and changes to [[jostle]] mechanics no longer crashes the game with Pikmin Throw.}}
**{{bugfix|The removal of [[multiple player slot glitch]] and changes to [[jostle]] mechanics no longer crashes the game with Pikmin Throw.}}
**{{change|Opponents express when a Pikmin is latched onto them.}}
**{{change|Opponents make a discomforted facial expression (the same expression used by [[poison]]ed fighters) when a Pikmin is latched onto them.}}
*[[Winged Pikmin]]:
*[[Winged Pikmin]]:
**{{nerf|Winged Pikmin travels a significantly shorter distance with consecutive uses.}}
**{{nerf|Winged Pikmin travels a significantly shorter distance with consecutive uses.}}

Revision as of 23:22, July 20, 2020

Aesthetics

  • Change Due to the aesthetic used in Ultimate, Olimar's model features a more vibrant color scheme. His proportions have been adjusted; he has a slightly smaller nose and eyes, and his skin tone is paler. His space suit and life support systems have more subtle detailing, and his helmet has a more glossy sheen. The new detailing is also expressed by Alph.
  • Change Olimar's antenna has less independent physics, allowing it to move more naturally.
  • Change Olimar's helmet cracks after taking a certain amount of damage, but will quickly be repaired. It also appears cracked when he is Screen KO'd.
  • Change Olimar now only jumps twice during his up taunt, shortening its duration.
  • Change Sidestep and ledge-hanging's animations have changed.
  • Change Pikmin now always face the screen regardless of which direction they turn.
  • Change Pikmin now have trails that match their colors when attacking, like in the Pikmin games.

Attributes

  • Buff Like all characters, Olimar's jumpsquat animation takes three frames to complete (down from 5).
  • Buff Olimar walks slightly faster (0.9 → 0.945).
  • Buff Olimar dashes faster (1.47 → 1.617).
  • Buff Olimar's initial dash speed is very slightly higher (1.6 → 1.606). Despite this, it is now much slower relative to the roster.
  • Buff Olimar's air speed is slightly higher (0.82 → 0.861).
  • Nerf All Pikmin types have less HP.
    • Nerf Red, Yellow: 8 → 6.
    • Nerf Blue: 11 → 8.
    • Nerf White: 7 → 5.
    • Nerf Purple: 13 → 11.
  • Nerf Pikmin can be swallowed.
  • Nerf Pikmin can get stuck on platforms if they were plucked beneath them, making it impossible to use them for attacks for a while.
  • Nerf Pikmin in Olimar's squad are no longer intangible directly after Olimar gets hit with a high knockback move, making it possible to kill the Pikmin and send Olimar offstage without any Pikmin.
  • Nerf Pikmin can die from hitboxes that Olimar already shielded or perfect shielded, making it very hard to punish the attack.
  • Nerf When a Pikmin dies, it becomes the active Pikmin in Olimar's squad, making it impossible to use Pikmin for attacks for a short while.
  • Buff Olimar's hurtbox is modeled around his body instead of being a giant orb around him. This effectively gives him a smaller hurtbox around some parts of his body, making him harder to hit.
    • Nerf However, Olimar has a larger hurtbox vertically.

Ground attacks

  • Neutral attack:
    • Buff Neutral attack 1 has less ending lag (FAF 30 → 20).
      • Change Its angles have been altered (361°/80° → 361°/180°) making it a more consistent jab locking tool but hindering its jab canceling potential.
    • Nerf Jab 2's hitboxes have been moved inwards (Z offset: 7/13 → 6/10) reducing its range. Oddly, the animation has not been properly altered, and so suggests the move has more range than it actually does.
    • Nerf Jab 2's sweetspot is closer to the sourspot now, and the sourspot is bigger (2.5u → 2.8u). Due to it taking priority over the sweetspot this makes the sweetspot much harder to land.
  • Dash attack:
    • Buff Dash attack has a bigger hitbox (3.5u (clean)/3.5u (late) → 5u/4.5u).
  • Up tilt:
    • Buff Up tilt has less ending lag (FAF 45 → 39).
  • All smash attacks:
    • Buff The damage multipliers when using smash attacks with red or purple Pikmin have been increased (Red: 1.2× → 1.4×, Purple: 1.4× → 1.6×).
  • Forward smash:
    • Buff Forward smash deals more damage when using red or purple Pikmin.
      • Buff Red: 17.4% (clean)/12% (mid)/7.2% (late) → 20.3%/14%/8.4%
      • Buff Purple: 20.3% (clean)/14% (mid)/8.4% (late) → 23.2%/16%/9.6%
    • Nerf Forward smash has more ending lag (FAF 40 → 43).
    • Nerf Forward smash's clean hit has a shorter duration, with the mid and late hits having a longer duration instead (frames 11-14 (clean)/15-20 (mid)/21-29 (late) → 11-12/13-19/20-29).
  • Up smash:
    • Buff Up smash deals more damage when using red or purple Pikmin with knockback scaling compensated.
      • Buff Red: 15.6% (clean)/12% (weak)/13.2% (late) → 18.2%/14%/15.4%, knockback scaling: 83/74/78 → 72/64/68
      • Buff Purple: 18.2% (clean)/14% (weak)/15.4% (late) → 20.8%/16%/17.6%, knockback scaling: 81/72/78 → 72/64/68
    • Buff Up smash has significantly less ending lag (FAF 56 → 40), increasing its safety and giving it combo potential.
  • Down smash:
    • Buff Down smash deals more damage when using red or purple Pikmin.
      • Buff Red: 13.2% (clean)/10.8% (late) → 15.4%/12.6%
      • Buff Purple: 15.4% (clean)/12.6% (late) → 17.6%/14.4%

Aerial attacks

  • Buff All aerials have less landing lag (15 frames → 13 (neutral), 15 → 9 (forward/back), 30 → 18 (up/down)).
  • Buff All aerials involving Pikmin have Transcendent priority.
  • Buff All aerials that use Pikmin have more range.
  • Buff The damage multipliers when using aerials with red or purple Pikmin have been increased (Red: 1.2× → 1.4×, Purple: 1.4× → 1.6×).
  • Neutral aerial:
    • Nerf Neutral aerial's hitboxes are smaller (loop: 3.5u/2.5u/2.5u/3.5u → 3u/2u/2u/3u, last: 5u/4u/4u/5u → 4u/3u/3u/4u).
  • Forward aerial:
    • Buff Forward aerial deals more damage when using red or purple Pikmin.
      • Buff Red: 10.2% → 11.9%
      • Buff Purple: 11.9% → 13.6%
  • Back aerial:
    • Buff Back aerial deals more damage when using red or purple Pikmin.
      • Buff Red: 12.9% → 15.1%
      • Buff Purple: 15.1% → 17.2%
  • Up aerial and down aerial:
    • Buff They deal more damage when using red or purple Pikmin.
      • Buff Red: 10.8% → 12.6%
      • Buff Purple: 12.6% → 14.4%
    • Nerf They auto-cancel one frame later (frame 30 → 31).

Throws and other attacks

  • Grabs:
    • Buff All Pikmin in Olimar's squad will be used at once for his grab, significantly improving its potential range. The more Pikmin he has, the greater the range.
    • Nerf All grabs have slightly more startup lag (frame 10 → 12).
    • Nerf Attempting to grab near a ledge using Pikmin that were plucked just before that will cause the grab to have no hitbox.
    • Change All grabs' ending lag is changed and depends on the amount of Pikmin in Olimar's squad.
      • Change Standing: FAF 50 → 42/48/57 (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Change Dash: FAF 53 → 50/58/69 (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Nerf Pivot: FAF 36 → 45/52/61 (1/2/3 Pikmin).
  • Pummel:
    • Change Pummel is a quick upward punch from Olimar himself. It is much faster than his previous pummel, but deals less damage.
    • Nerf Olimar can no longer benefit from the high-damaging pummel of White Pikmin.
  • Forward throw:
    • Buff Forward throw deals more damage when using blue Pikmin and when Olimar has multiple Pikmin in his squad.
      • Buff Red: 5.6% → 5.6%/6.1%/6.7% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Yellow, White, Purple: 7% → 7%/7.7%/8.4% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Blue: 11.2% → 11.8%/13%/14.2% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
  • Back throw:
    • Buff Back throw deals more damage when using blue Pikmin and when Olimar has multiple Pikmin in his squad.
      • Buff Red: 7.2% → 7.2%/7.9%/8.6% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Yellow, White, Purple: 9% → 9%/9.9%/10.8% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Blue: 14.4% → 15.3%/16.8%/18.3% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
    • Buff Back throw deals significantly more knockback when using blue Pikmin.
  • Up throw:
    • Buff Up throw deals more damage when using blue Pikmin and when Olimar has multiple Pikmin in his squad.
      • Buff Red: 6.4% → 6.4%/7%/7.6% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Yellow, White, Purple: 8% → 8%/8.8%/9.6% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Blue: 12.8% → 13.5%/14.8%/16.2% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
    • Buff Up throw deals significantly more knockback when using blue Pikmin, being the strongest up throw in the game.
    • Change Up throw has a more exaggerated animation.
  • Down throw:
    • Buff Down throw deals more damage when using blue Pikmin and when Olimar has multiple Pikmin in his squad.
      • Buff Red: 6.6% → 6.6%/7.2%/7.9% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Yellow: 8% → 8%/8.8%/9.6% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff White: 7.8% → 8%/8.8%/9.6% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Purple: 8.4% → 8%/8.8%/9.6% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
      • Buff Blue: 12.2% → 12.8%/14.1%/15.4% (1/2/3 Pikmin).
    • Nerf Down throw sends opponents at a more horizontal angle, reducing its combo potential.

Special moves

  • Pikmin Throw:
    • Buff Pikmin that latch onto opponents deal more damage (1.1% → 2% (Red, Yellow, Blue), 3.7% → 4.7% (White)).
    • Nerf Purple Pikmin thrown deal less damage (6.5% → 6%).
    • Nerf Pikmin take fall damage when thrown and landing on the ground.
    • Bug fix The removal of multiple player slot glitch and changes to jostle mechanics no longer crashes the game with Pikmin Throw.
    • Change Opponents make a discomforted facial expression (the same expression used by poisoned fighters) when a Pikmin is latched onto them.
  • Winged Pikmin:
    • Nerf Winged Pikmin travels a significantly shorter distance with consecutive uses.
    • Nerf If Pikmin are in certain animations while using Winged Pikmin, attempting to use them for aerials will cause the attack to have no hitbox.
  • Pikmin Order:
    • Buff Olimar orders his Pikmin much sooner (frame 12 → 2).
    • Buff Pikmin Order has less ending lag (FAF 21 → 18).
    • Buff Olimar gains super armor sooner (frame 6 → 2), much like in Brawl. This improves its use as a defensive tool and as a combo breaker.
      • Nerf However, it also has a shorter duration (frames 6-12 → 2-7). This effectively increases the move's ending lag despite its reduced total duration.
    • Buff Pikmin Order's whistling animation is less exaggerated. This new animation is shorter (39 frames → 33), decreasing the amount of time Olimar cannot grab the ledge after performing the move in the air.
  • End of Day
    • Change End of Day has been significantly sped up, with the Hocotate Ship crashing onto the stage almost immediately after the move's cutscene.
    • Nerf The explosion has less knockback scaling (140 (sweetspot)/125 (sourspot) → 120/105).