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:Regardless of the complaints, I was so happy that they chose Pac-Man as the Namco rep, and I was especially relieved that they went with his Classic look rather than any of his (honestly unappealing) designs since ''Pac-Man Party''. But my favorite part about him was how he didn't just bring [[Pac-Man (universe)|his own series]] with him, but [[List of Namco universes|a whole bunch of other Namco properties]]. Overall, Pac-Man remains as my favorite third-party fighter in the entire ''Super Smash Bros.'' series. | :Regardless of the complaints, I was so happy that they chose Pac-Man as the Namco rep, and I was especially relieved that they went with his Classic look rather than any of his (honestly unappealing) designs since ''Pac-Man Party''. But my favorite part about him was how he didn't just bring [[Pac-Man (universe)|his own series]] with him, but [[List of Namco universes|a whole bunch of other Namco properties]]. Overall, Pac-Man remains as my favorite third-party fighter in the entire ''Super Smash Bros.'' series. | ||
*[[Robin]] and [[Lucina]]: When it was revealed that both Robin and Lucina would join the cast, but not Chrom, I was pretty confused and a little salty. I did eventually warm up a little to Robin, but I never forgave Lucina, especially since Chrom apparently got cut for being "another blue-haired swordsman in the lines of [[Marth]] and [[Ike]]". Like, doesn't Lucina still fit that criteria? If you're gonna argue that "she's female", [[Villager (SSB4)|there were]] [[Wii Fit Trainer (SSB4)|much better]] [[Rosalina & Luma (SSB4)|female fighter]] [[Palutena (SSB4)|additions in]] [[Robin (SSB4)|the game]]. I felt she was mostly included just to please her fans. | *[[Robin]] and [[Lucina]]: When it was revealed that both Robin and Lucina would join the cast, but not Chrom, I was pretty confused and a little salty. I did eventually warm up a little to Robin, but I never forgave Lucina, especially since Chrom apparently got cut for being "another blue-haired swordsman in the lines of [[Marth]] and [[Ike]]". Like, doesn't Lucina still fit that criteria? If you're gonna argue that "she's female", [[Villager (SSB4)|there were]] [[Wii Fit Trainer (SSB4)|much better]] [[Rosalina & Luma (SSB4)|female fighter]] [[Palutena (SSB4)|additions in]] [[Robin (SSB4)|the game]]. I felt she was mostly included just to please her fans. | ||
:Fun fact: Robin is the only avatar character outside of Mii games who I've made to look more like me and even named after myself. I usually try to avoid self-inserts in game and only use my real name if the avatar has no official name, though not always (Such as Selene in the Alolan {{uv|Pokémon}} games: I didn't name her Selene since it wasn't established as her common name by the fandom and I really didn't want to name her "Moon" or my real name, so I went with "Luna", a name I knew related to the moon and is an actual name). | :Fun fact: Robin is the only avatar character outside of Mii games who I've made to look more like me and even named after myself. I usually try to avoid self-inserts in game and only use my real name if the avatar has no official name, though not always (Such as Selene in the Alolan {{uv|Pokémon}} games: I didn't name her Selene since it wasn't established as her common name by the fandom and I really didn't want to name her "Moon" or my real name, so I went with "Luna", a name I knew was related to the moon and is an actual name). | ||
*[[Shulk]]: Believe it or not, I actually own all three games in the "Operation Rainfall trilogy" (which also includes {{uvm|The Last Story}} and {{uvm|Pandora's Tower}}). Despite this, {{uv|Xenoblade}}'s the only one I've actually played so far. Like most fans of the game, I did want Shulk in, but assumed he wouldn't get a role higher than an Assist Trophy. It's a good thing I was actually interested enough in that Japan-only New Nintendo 3DS Direct to watch it and got caught off-guard when the ''Smash'' trailer for him was the first thing in said Direct. Unfortunately, he was the first character to be revealed after I discovered the infamous [[ESRB leak]], so his inclusion didn't actually come off as that much of a surprise. | *[[Shulk]]: Believe it or not, I actually own all three games in the "Operation Rainfall trilogy" (which also includes {{uvm|The Last Story}} and {{uvm|Pandora's Tower}}). Despite this, {{uv|Xenoblade}}'s the only one I've actually played so far. Like most fans of the game, I did want Shulk in, but assumed he wouldn't get a role higher than an Assist Trophy. It's a good thing I was actually interested enough in that Japan-only New Nintendo 3DS Direct to watch it and got caught off-guard when the ''Smash'' trailer for him was the first thing in said Direct. Unfortunately, he was the first character to be revealed after I discovered the infamous [[ESRB leak]], so his inclusion didn't actually come off as that much of a surprise. | ||
*[[Dark Pit]]: Let's just say that my first impression of him being included wasn't exactly the kindest... | *[[Dark Pit]]: Let's just say that my first impression of him being included wasn't exactly the kindest... |
Revision as of 00:19, February 23, 2020
Turtle Lover | |
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Character info | |
Smash 4 mains | Bowser, Pac-Man |
Other Smash 4 characters | Villager, Wii Fit Trainer |
Ultimate mains | Incineroar, Bowser |
Other Ultimate character | Pokémon Trainer |
Personal and other info | |
Location | USA |
Miscellaneous info | |
Skill | Casual Casual |
Hi! I'm known as Turtle Lover on most social media platforms, but I call myself SuperSmashTurtles here just for the heck of it. I've been an editor of this wiki since about mid-to-late 2015. I'm also on MarioWiki, Bulbapedia, and Nookipedia, although I'm a lot more active here than I am on any of those Wikis.
If you're looking for someone to help out with all the "competitive" data on this Wiki, don't even bother with me. I could care less about any of that sort of stuff.
Introduction
I've been an avid fan of the Super Smash Bros. series ever since around 2006 or 2007 when I played Super Smash Bros. Melee. I'll admit that, aside from Mario and Pokémon, I never even heard of any of the characters or series in the game (Nope, not even Zelda). As a youngling, I only known whatever was on Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network, or Disney Channel/Toon Disney, and even when it came to video games, I mostly got shoddy licensed-based games for the Game Boy Advance or PlayStation 2.
However, due to my new interest for Melee, I soon discovered this series called History Behind Super Smash Bros. Melee, which dealt in teaching about the origins of certain aspects in the game, such as characters and their movesets, stages and elements within them, and items and how they worked.
Because of it, I soon became a major Nintendo fan, and thanks to Melee and Brawl's tactic(?) of representing smaller or obscure series, it led me to become interested in anything Nintendo-published and considering if it has a chance to be acknowledged in a Smash or not.
My Sandboxes
Here is a list of sandboxes that I have created.
Notes: Only I have the right to create what sandboxes I want to make, so please do not send me requests. If you wanna make suggestions for certain sandboxes (Like the Kingdom Hearts spirits sandbox), I'd heavily suggest you use the discussion page for that particular sandbox to submit your suggestions rather than on my talk page.
- Smash Bros. Universe Statistics: A list of every universe represented in the Super Smash Bros. series that orders them by what Smash game they debuted in, as well as some statistics and Chronicle-exclusive universes.
- Major characters by their debut role: A list of roles every major character (fighters, summon characters, and enemies/bosses) had before their more major roles in the series.
- All spirits ordered by their first appearance in the Smash Bros. series: Similar idea to the above sandbox, only this time it focuses on every spirit in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
- List of entities that don't appear in Ultimate: A list of characters, certain objects, or certain alter-egos that make no appearance in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate whatsoever.
- List of unrepresented universes: A list of Nintendo IPs/franchises (or franchises with Nintendo-published installments) that have yet to receive representation outside of a Chronicle listing.
- Ideas of mine: The title pretty much explains it.
- Miscellaneous stuff: Stuff I made that I felt didn't fit into the above categories nor felt were major enough to receive their own pages.
Drafts
- IPs I'm adding/considering for my List of unrepresented universes page: A list of IPs/franchises that I'm considering adding to my "List of unrepresented universes page" page.
Thoughts on Smash Newcomers' Reveals
Here are my thoughts on certain newcomers during their reveals. I'm only gonna do the newcomers from Smash 4 onwards since I was not familiar with almost any of the newcomers of the prior 3 games.
Smash 4 Newcomers
- Villager: I was actually spoiled by their inclusion before I saw the E3 2013 presentation because on YouTube I saw some video thumbnail that had male Villager on it, although I couldn't really tell if it was Smash 4. Anyway, I didn't really think much of them at first, but I did grew to like them when I first played them in the Smash 3DS demo.
Also, pink-haired girl > No. 1 Shirt boy. FITE MEH Qò0óQ
- Fun fact: Before they were revealed, I actually had this Happy Tree Friends-styled Animal Crossing fan-fic idea (despite never playing an Animal Crossing game at the time) where a male human villager was a psychotic serial killer, not too dissimilar to the "Killager" meme (although in my fic, he was possessed by a hostile spirit rather than naturally being one).
- Mega Man: Despite never playing a single Mega Man game, I did acknowledge his strong association with Nintendo and was satisfied when he did get included.
- Fun fact: I actually somehow thought his silhouette was Astro Boy for a second.
- Wii Fit Trainer: Like many others, I thought their inclusion was a joke when I first read about it. Needless to say, they became my favorite addition in the game solely because of how ridiculous of a choice they were.
- Rosalina & Luma: When she got revealed, I actually had no recollection of a Direct happening that day. Instead, I found her out via her reveal trailer being posted onto Miiverse. She was a character I never thought about appearing in Smash, and she was definitely a pleasant surprise.
- Little Mac: Ever since I first saw him in Brawl during his Assist Trophy days, I thought "Man! That guy would definitely fit into Smash.". He's honestly the only "Assist-turned-fighter" I'm really satisfied with. Not much else to say, he's just a great addition, even if his reputation isn't exactly the best (but to be honest, I could care less about the competitive scene of Smash).
- Greninja: Now here's a character I was way more familiar with. When X & Y were first revealed, Froakie was instantly my favorite of the Kalos Starters, yet it seemed to be the least popular of the trio. I never understood why, since I found Chespin to be rather ugly and Fennekin to be forgettable (On the bright side, Chespin did get a whole lot better with its final evolution. Can't really say the same about Fennekin, though). While it still remained my favorite Starter of the trio even after the final evolutions got revealed, I never actually thought about it joining Smash. Heck, I never thought they'd include a Starter Pokémon that wasn't from Gen 1, and Gen 6 didn't seem to have a "Lucario"-type character like Gen 5 did with Zoroark, so I wasn't sure who they would pick. Needless to say, I was pleasantly surprised by its inclusion (and yes, I did think the silhouette was Mewtwo at first)
- Mii Fighter: To be honest, I don't really have much to say about these guys other than it was kinda surprising that they weren't playable in Brawl.
- Palutena: Like Rosalina, this was a character I never really thought about for Smash. Unlike Rosalina, I have actually seen other people suggest her to be playable. I was kinda indifferent towards the idea, since I had no idea what moveset they would give her. Come the E3 2014 presentation, and I was very satisfied with how they handled her.
- Pac-Man: Surprisingly, this was a character where I've seen more people against the idea of him in Smash than people who support him, and I've never been able to figure out exactly why. My possible reasonings were:
- 1. Some people wanted a different character from Namco like Lloyd Irving from the Tales series or KOS-MOS from the Xenosaga series, and had the mindset that no third-party company would have more than one character playable.
- 2. Others feared that Namco would've required the Smash team to use his much-reviled Ghostly Adventures design.
- 3. Another group only knew about his iconic "wedge-shaped" form and thought that would make a "stupid addition".
- Regardless of the complaints, I was so happy that they chose Pac-Man as the Namco rep, and I was especially relieved that they went with his Classic look rather than any of his (honestly unappealing) designs since Pac-Man Party. But my favorite part about him was how he didn't just bring his own series with him, but a whole bunch of other Namco properties. Overall, Pac-Man remains as my favorite third-party fighter in the entire Super Smash Bros. series.
- Robin and Lucina: When it was revealed that both Robin and Lucina would join the cast, but not Chrom, I was pretty confused and a little salty. I did eventually warm up a little to Robin, but I never forgave Lucina, especially since Chrom apparently got cut for being "another blue-haired swordsman in the lines of Marth and Ike". Like, doesn't Lucina still fit that criteria? If you're gonna argue that "she's female", there were much better female fighter additions in the game. I felt she was mostly included just to please her fans.
- Fun fact: Robin is the only avatar character outside of Mii games who I've made to look more like me and even named after myself. I usually try to avoid self-inserts in game and only use my real name if the avatar has no official name, though not always (Such as Selene in the Alolan Pokémon games: I didn't name her Selene since it wasn't established as her common name by the fandom and I really didn't want to name her "Moon" or my real name, so I went with "Luna", a name I knew was related to the moon and is an actual name).
- Shulk: Believe it or not, I actually own all three games in the "Operation Rainfall trilogy" (which also includes The Last Story and Pandora's Tower). Despite this, Xenoblade's the only one I've actually played so far. Like most fans of the game, I did want Shulk in, but assumed he wouldn't get a role higher than an Assist Trophy. It's a good thing I was actually interested enough in that Japan-only New Nintendo 3DS Direct to watch it and got caught off-guard when the Smash trailer for him was the first thing in said Direct. Unfortunately, he was the first character to be revealed after I discovered the infamous ESRB leak, so his inclusion didn't actually come off as that much of a surprise.
- Dark Pit: Let's just say that my first impression of him being included wasn't exactly the kindest...
- Bowser Jr.: While I did think of the possibility of him being playable, I just assumed he would be a bland hybrid of Bowser and Squirtle. Come Smash 3DS's release, and I was very surprised that they gave him the mini version of the Koopa Clown Car. Not only that, but all of his alternate costumes are of the Koopalings rather than any simple texture recolors. Overall, I was glad with how he turned out.
- Duck Hunt: When I first saw this duo in the ESRB leak, I, like many other people, was baffled on how a character like that would even make it into Smash. But then again... Anyway, like with Pac-Man, my favorite part of them was the fact that they didn't just bring Duck Hunt content with them, but also Wild Gunman and Hogan's Alley content.
Now if only they could include content from Gumshoe and To the Earth. Smash has plenty of Japan-exclusive franchises within it, atleast give us one Western-exclusive franchise (And no, Elite Beat Agents doesn't count). - Ryu: I'll be honest, I'm absolutely horrid at traditional fighting games, so I never bother with Street Fighter or any other game of its kind. Anyway, when I first heard about the datamine that revealed that him and Roy would be coming as Smash 4 DLC, I was hoping it was referring to Ryu Hayabusa from Ninja Gaiden since we already got a Capcom fighter and putting in a character from a fighting game into Smash seemed rather farfetched (And no, Punch-Out!! does not count as a fighting game). Despite this, I am pretty okay with his inclusion.
- Cloud: I was pretty surprised about Cloud's reveal, and I thought he won the Fighter Ballot (which of course, wasn't actually the case), but I didn't really care for him all that much as I found him to be a predictable choice for a Final Fantasy rep. And since his series is extremely lacking in collectibles and music, I honestly could care less if he got cut.
please don't crucify me
- Fun fact: I actually first learned about Cloud (and the Final Fantasy series in general) through Kingdom Hearts, since I was much more of a "cartoon" guy as a kid than a "video game" guy.
- Corrin: It's no surprise that I did not see them coming at all, especially since their game only came out 6 months in Japan before their reveal (which honestly makes Sakurai's excuse for not including an ARMS or Xenoblade 2 rep rather weak). They looked pretty cool and unique, but I was rather miffed how Fire Emblem got more fighters than much more iconic franchises like Zelda.
- Bayonetta: Do I really need to say if I found her inclusion surprising or not? Since I actually watched the Japanese version of the Direct first, I didn't recognize her voice and thought it might be Medusa from Kid Icarus or something. I may have thought of the idea of Bayo being playable, but I just assumed she would be too raunchy and risqué for Smash and trying to censor her would ruin the appeal of the character. A brilliant choice overall, I must say.
Anyway, that's all I'm gonna write for now since I'm pretty burnt out. I may do the Ultimate newcomers when I feel like it.
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