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:::You're right about there being no elegant gender-neutral solution, which was likely why the wiki has the policy it has now. In Japanese, there are better nongendered pronouns than we have in English, so it would make sense for the people translating the loading screen tips and trophy info using gender neutral language. We on the wiki, however, are cataloging a lot more information, and readability is very important here. The official material may not be consistent, but we should be as often as we can. So we have to make a choice: be more accurate or be easier to read. It's a small trade-off, and I don't think the small amount of accuracy gained would be worth the loss and the effort. [[User:Toymakers Creation|Toymaker's Creation]] [[File:VelEye.png]] [[User Talk:Toymakers Creation|"''Thank you for your contribution."'']] | :::You're right about there being no elegant gender-neutral solution, which was likely why the wiki has the policy it has now. In Japanese, there are better nongendered pronouns than we have in English, so it would make sense for the people translating the loading screen tips and trophy info using gender neutral language. We on the wiki, however, are cataloging a lot more information, and readability is very important here. The official material may not be consistent, but we should be as often as we can. So we have to make a choice: be more accurate or be easier to read. It's a small trade-off, and I don't think the small amount of accuracy gained would be worth the loss and the effort. [[User:Toymakers Creation|Toymaker's Creation]] [[File:VelEye.png]] [[User Talk:Toymakers Creation|"''Thank you for your contribution."'']] | ||
:'''Oppose''', as per Toymaker. Plus, I also think that using either style of pronoun (they, his/her or [s]he) would impact the readability of each page. Plus, although this is probably a bad oppose reason - there's the many instances each character is talked about on other pages. Do you want to be going through all those and changing them? And will those chances retain the readability of each page? I think not. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 21:56, 17 June 2018 (EDT) | :'''Oppose''', as per Toymaker. Plus, I also think that using either style of pronoun (they, his/her or [s]he) would impact the readability of each page. Plus, although this is probably a bad oppose reason - there's the many instances each character is talked about on other pages. Do you want to be going through all those and changing them? And will those chances retain the readability of each page? I think not. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 21:56, 17 June 2018 (EDT) | ||
:'''There's no need to change it'''. If we ignore all other concerns that gender-neutral pronouns bring such as readability, it eventually boils down to "''is referring to X as'' 'they' ''absolutely necessary? If so, does that warrant appropriate changes to'' every ''character with multiple gender options?''" it's been agreed that this isn't the case, and hasn't been since the rule was conceived 4 years ago. Unless more future cases show up that require the rule to be clarified (i.e. a new char. with gender variations is announced), this shouldn't be discussed again. Also, regarding how the official games handle these characters gender-wise, remember [[SW:OFFICIAL|SmashWiki isn't official]], so not all (in)consistencies from official sources regarding gender or w/e should be followed by the book. [[User:Nokii|Nokii]] ([[User talk:Nokii|talk]]) 22:34, 17 June 2018 (EDT) | |||