Forum:Move names

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This discussion is in regards to a proposed change on SmashWiki. The discussion must first meet with a consensus before it is implemented.

For too long, we have gone without a standard for what's considered an accepted source (outside of direct mentions by the Smash series) for naming characters' moves. That's about to change here. Serpent  King 23:38, 22 January 2018 (EST)

When voting Please it clear whether you support or oppose each preferably by bolding it.

Nintendo power

Support, as it's too difficult to come up with other names for moves, and we should have more data than we do. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 23:44, 22 January 2018 (EST)

I vote for the Nintendo Power guides to be the source in this one. Nintendo Power used to be a legal division of Nintendo, on which descriptions used to be pretty accurate on whatever the topic was, no matter which one. Besides, some Japanese speaking people were able to translate, in a way, the moves of characters from their Japanese guides, technically making the names from the Nintendo Power guides official. As a result, I'll choose this one as my cup of tea. -- Beep (talk) 23:45, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Support because nothing makes us look more unprofessional and unreliable than using material that's not from the company itself (despite being discontinued after publication). But it's also silly to keep so many blanks on the moves list whilst only filling in the four special moves. Nergal06 (talk) 23:49, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Lean towards oppose, ambiguously official content. Miles (talk) 23:50, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Support for the reasons already listed, plus Nintendo Power move names are already consistent with the ones stated in the game (Lightning Kick, Knee Smash, etc); I'm assuming Nintendo of America translated SSBM from Japanese, and NP is also a part of Nintendo of America, so the move names seem official. SeraphStar (talk) 01:35, 23 January 2018 (EST)

Prima

Neutral, possibly support, for this is a third party source that doesn't necessarily know the official names. But then again, so is Nintendo Power, so you can see the bind I'm in. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 23:44, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Maximum oppose, outrageously unreliable. Miles (talk) 23:50, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Complete and utter oppose. Prima guides have never been that reliable at giving out information to begin with. I'm completely siding with Miles on this one. -- Beep (talk) 23:54, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Comparable moves from each characters' source games

Full support - this is the one I support the most. Nobody can know the move names better than the games from which the characters came from. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 23:44, 22 January 2018 (EST)

I support if it's the same or very close to the source. ZombieZlayer (talk) 23:43, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Oppose I fail to understand how it can be considered acceptable to have move names taken from other games without any source claiming that they are in fact the same move as in Smash. Serpent  King 23:47, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Oppose, not used consistently in existing cases (like special moves), so applying these wholesale seems like a poor idea. Furthermore, Smash moves and source material aren't reliably 1:1. Miles (talk) 23:50, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Oppose because it's inconsistent. Not every SSBM move comes from a native game. For example, Ganandorf in SSBM is nothing at all like Ganondorf in Ocarina of Time, Twilight Princess, etc. There will be too many unnamed moves. SeraphStar (talk) 01:37, 23 January 2018 (EST)

Whatever matches the Japanese names, regardless of source

Do This. It's pretty simple. If an English name matches the Japanese name, it's good. If we don't know the Japanese names for some characters' moves but the same source is correct for other characters, odds are it's correct for everyone in that game. If a move doesn't change between games, it keeps the same name. This is what should be done, what should have always been done from day 1, and what will be done. Toomai Glittershine The Spark 06:47, 23 January 2018 (EST)