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* "I see no reason to have some images here smaller than others, it's barely even noticable"
* "I see no reason to have some images here smaller than others, it's barely even noticable"
** The reason is actually quite simple! First of all, the icons effected are specific -- namely, the Melee icons. The reason is because the format of the Brawl icons is different from that of the Melee ones. Take a notice on [[File:JigglypuffHeadSSBB.png|Jiggs]] vs [[File:PichuHeadSSBM.png|Pichu]], or [[File:MarthHeadSSBB.png|Marth]] vs [[File:RoyHeadSSBM.png|Roy]]. In the case of Brawl icons, the icons themselves don't fully fit the pictures themselves; they are about three pixels smaller, and the rest is transparent. That causes a serious (as opposed to barely noticable) presentation problem, which you can see here: [http://i.imgur.com/oDuFreK.png how it appears] vs [http://i.imgur.com/ScskQCw.png how it's supposed to appear]. I'm concerned about page consistency, so, I thought changing the icon sizes a bit would be a good temporary solution (since there may be more bureaucracy in uploading new versions of the icons themselves). Just a little explanation of the issue. If you understand the problem, it would be nice if we could have the icons formatting appear consistent across pages. :) --[[Ash_Pokemaster|Ash_Pokemaster]] <small>([[User_talk:Ash_Pokemaster|talk]])</small> 16:16, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
The reason is actually quite simple! First of all, the icons effected are specific -- namely, the Melee icons. The reason is because the format of the Brawl icons is different from that of the Melee ones. Take a notice on [[File:JigglypuffHeadSSBB.png|Jiggs]] vs [[File:PichuHeadSSBM.png|Pichu]], or [[File:MarthHeadSSBB.png|Marth]] vs [[File:RoyHeadSSBM.png|Roy]]. In the case of Brawl icons, the icons themselves don't fully fit the pictures themselves; they are about three pixels smaller, and the rest is transparent. That causes a serious (as opposed to barely noticable) presentation problem, which you can see here: [http://i.imgur.com/oDuFreK.png how it appears] vs [http://i.imgur.com/ScskQCw.png how it's supposed to appear]. I'm concerned about page consistency, so, I thought changing the icon sizes a bit would be a good temporary solution (since there may be more bureaucracy in uploading new versions of the icons themselves). Just a little explanation of the issue. If you understand the problem, it would be nice if we could have the icons formatting appear consistent across pages. :) --[[Ash_Pokemaster|Ash_Pokemaster]] <small>([[User_talk:Ash_Pokemaster|talk]])</small> 16:16, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
:I have to look extremely hard to see a difference in that comparison you posted. The difference is there yes, but given that there's going to be inconsistency no matter what we do (as once SSB4 comes out we'll almost certainly be having three games' worth of icon types there), I don't think fidding with minor size changes are worth doing.
:I have to look extremely hard to see a difference in that comparison you posted. The difference is there yes, but given that there's going to be inconsistency no matter what we do (as once SSB4 comes out we'll almost certainly be having three games' worth of icon types there), I don't think fidding with minor size changes are worth doing.
:That being said, I'm beginning to wonder why that table exists at all when we have [[List of Super Smash Bros. series characters|this one]], and I'm thinking of merging them together in some way. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Le Grand Fromage 16:35, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
:That being said, I'm beginning to wonder why that table exists at all when we have [[List of Super Smash Bros. series characters|this one]], and I'm thinking of merging them together in some way. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] Le Grand Fromage 16:35, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
::The size difference is fairly obvious to my eyes, but I have to agree. The only thing the "Playable characters" table offers that the other table doesn't is a predesigned order to the characters and series (which is to day, the Mario series is first, or Pikachu is the first in the Pokémon series). Furthermore, the Playable characters table is very UX-inconsistent for a number of reasons: non-standard spacing between rows (notice the one-character universes), series-based ordering (highlighting the characters as Universe elements, when the table is supposed to highlight them as standalone entities), and it just looks ugly in general. With a little work, the main table can become quite good. The only thing it needs is a prefixed character ordering. My suggestion would be ordering them in order of first appearance. The [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/ChrFrameLayout.html old] Smash Bros. site is still up and the Melee [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/flash/0222/character.html site] even has the dates of each characters revelation, so, that shouldn't be hard even for older characters. --[[Ash_Pokemaster|Ash_Pokemaster]] <small>([[User_talk:Ash_Pokemaster|talk]])</small> 17:15, 14 April 2014 (EDT)
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