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*At the very start of the metagame, {{SSBU|Mario}} was considered to be a mid-tier character. While he was not necessarily a bad character, he looked worse as opposed to ''Smash 4''. Many swordfighters were also then considered to be top tiers or high tiers, especially {{SSBU|Chrom}}, {{SSBU|Ike}} and {{SSBU|Link}}. This gave Mario a difficult time faring with the cast. However, many players realized how strong Mario is, seeing how he had the combo potential, edgeguarding, punish game, kill power and speed he had from the last game, and many professionals were getting favorable results with Mario. {{Sm|Dark Wizzy}} in particular has gotten top 8 at Glitch 7 and Shine, both of which are supermajors. Dark Wizzy has also defeated other professionals like {{Sm|ESAM}}, {{Sm|MVD}}, {{Sm|Dabuz}}, and {{Sm|Light}}. This in turn, makes Mario agreed to be a high tier. While there is not an official tier list, general consensus is Mario is a top 20 contender.

*{{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}} was initially seen as potentially one of the worst characters in the game, due to his best tools being weakened or removed from ''Smash 4'', including his up aerial - removing his "Toot-Toot" KO confirm - up smash having less invincibility frames, and a new forward air that lacked priority and was heavily punishable. As a result, his representation initially was worse than his already sub-par representation in ''Smash 4''. However, dedicated mains such as {{Sm|Snickeldorf}}, {{Sm|Widget}}, and most notably {{Sm|Maister}} were able to slowly gain more recognizable results as time went on; Maister especially was able to consistently place highly at national-level tournaments, such as 3rd at {{Trn|Smash Factor 8}} and 5th at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2019}}. Furthermore, players realized that Mr. Game & Watch had more strengths than previously perceived: [[Fire]] is considered to be one of the best [[out of shield]] options in the game, and his disjointed down smash can now bury opponents when sweetspotted, allowing for a KO confirm at high percents. This allowed Mr. Game & Watch to be seen as a potential high-tier character in the current metagame.

*Upon his release, {{SSBU|Joker}} didn't see much tournament representation, due to many noting his short range, low damage output, and lack of KO ability without [[Arsene]] (who mainly requires Joker taking damage to be summoned). However, this general consensus shifted greatly upon {{sm|MkLeo}}'s numerous first place winnings with the character in tournaments, causing many to quickly take note of Joker's combo game (particularly in his drag down up aerial), edgeguarding potential, ability to quickly fill the [[Rebellion Gauge]] with [[Rebel's Guard]], huge hitboxes when Arsene attacks in tandem with him and a very generous counterattack and reflector resulting in many believing that Joker is a top-tier or even potentially the best character.

*Upon his release, {{SSBU|Joker}} didn't see much tournament representation, due to many noting his short range, low damage output, and lack of KO ability without [[Arsene]] (who mainly requires Joker taking damage to be summoned). However, this general consensus shifted greatly upon {{sm|MkLeo}}'s numerous first place winnings with the character in tournaments, causing many to quickly take note of Joker's combo game (particularly in his drag down up aerial), edgeguarding potential, ability to quickly fill the [[Rebellion Gauge]] with [[Rebel's Guard]], huge hitboxes when Arsene attacks in tandem with him, and a very generous counterattack and reflector, resulting in many believing that Joker is a top-tier or even potentially the best character.

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 *At the very start of the metagame, {{SSBU|Mario}} was considered to be a mid-tier character. While he was not necessarily a bad character, he looked worse as opposed to ''Smash 4''. Many swordfighters were also then considered to be top tiers or high tiers, especially {{SSBU|Chrom}}, {{SSBU|Ike}} and {{SSBU|Link}}. This gave Mario a difficult time faring with the cast. However, many players realized how strong Mario is, seeing how he had the combo potential, edgeguarding, punish game, kill power and speed he had from the last game, and many professionals were getting favorable results with Mario. {{Sm|Dark Wizzy}} in particular has gotten top 8 at Glitch 7 and Shine, both of which are supermajors. Dark Wizzy has also defeated other professionals like {{Sm|ESAM}}, {{Sm|MVD}}, {{Sm|Dabuz}}, and {{Sm|Light}}. This in turn, makes Mario agreed to be a high tier. While there is not an official tier list, general consensus is Mario is a top 20 contender.
 *{{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}} was initially seen as potentially one of the worst characters in the game, due to his best tools being weakened or removed from ''Smash 4'', including his up aerial - removing his "Toot-Toot" KO confirm - up smash having less invincibility frames, and a new forward air that lacked priority and was heavily punishable. As a result, his representation initially was worse than his already sub-par representation in ''Smash 4''. However, dedicated mains such as {{Sm|Snickeldorf}}, {{Sm|Widget}}, and most notably {{Sm|Maister}} were able to slowly gain more recognizable results as time went on; Maister especially was able to consistently place highly at national-level tournaments, such as 3rd at {{Trn|Smash Factor 8}} and 5th at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2019}}. Furthermore, players realized that Mr. Game & Watch had more strengths than previously perceived: [[Fire]] is considered to be one of the best [[out of shield]] options in the game, and his disjointed down smash can now bury opponents when sweetspotted, allowing for a KO confirm at high percents. This allowed Mr. Game & Watch to be seen as a potential high-tier character in the current metagame.
-*Upon his release, {{SSBU|Joker}} didn't see much tournament representation, due to many noting his short range, low damage output, and lack of KO ability without [[Arsene]] (who mainly requires Joker taking damage to be summoned). However, this general consensus shifted greatly upon {{sm|MkLeo}}'s numerous first place winnings with the character in tournaments, causing many to quickly take note of Joker's combo game (particularly in his drag down up aerial), edgeguarding potential, ability to quickly fill the [[Rebellion Gauge]] with [[Rebel's Guard]], huge hitboxes when Arsene attacks in tandem with him and a very generous counterattack and reflector resulting in many believing that Joker is a top-tier or even potentially the best character.
+*Upon his release, {{SSBU|Joker}} didn't see much tournament representation, due to many noting his short range, low damage output, and lack of KO ability without [[Arsene]] (who mainly requires Joker taking damage to be summoned). However, this general consensus shifted greatly upon {{sm|MkLeo}}'s numerous first place winnings with the character in tournaments, causing many to quickly take note of Joker's combo game (particularly in his drag down up aerial), edgeguarding potential, ability to quickly fill the [[Rebellion Gauge]] with [[Rebel's Guard]], huge hitboxes when Arsene attacks in tandem with him, and a very generous counterattack and reflector, resulting in many believing that Joker is a top-tier or even potentially the best character.
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