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If nobody wins after roughly 20 seconds, [[Bob-omb]]s begin to fall from the sky to speed up the match in all games besides ''Smash 64''. Unlike the Bob-omb items, these immediately explode on contact with any surface or player. As all players have 300% damage, getting hit by a Bob-omb is essentially an instant KO; however, with precise timing, players can grab Bob-ombs in midair with [[air dodge]]s. Prior to ''Smash 4'', it is possible for a falling Bob-omb to instantly KO a player off a side [[blast line]] while the other player is currently being sent flying by a [[Screen KO|Screen]] or [[Star KO]], causing the latter player to win the match in the middle of their KO animation; in ''Smash 4'', Star and Screen KOs no longer occur during Sudden Death. | If nobody wins after roughly 20 seconds, [[Bob-omb]]s begin to fall from the sky to speed up the match in all games besides ''Smash 64''. Unlike the Bob-omb items, these immediately explode on contact with any surface or player. As all players have 300% damage, getting hit by a Bob-omb is essentially an instant KO; however, with precise timing, players can grab Bob-ombs in midair with [[air dodge]]s. Prior to ''Smash 4'', it is possible for a falling Bob-omb to instantly KO a player off a side [[blast line]] while the other player is currently being sent flying by a [[Screen KO|Screen]] or [[Star KO]], causing the latter player to win the match in the middle of their KO animation; in ''Smash 4'', Star and Screen KOs no longer occur during Sudden Death. | ||
Should a tie occur within Sudden Death itself, which can only happen if all remaining characters are KO'd on the same frame, the match will end and one player will be declared the winner. In the first two ''Super Smash Bros.'' games, placement is based on [[port priority]]: in the original ''Super Smash Bros.'', the winner is the player with the highest port number (whose controller is closest to P4), while in ''Melee'', the winner is the player with the lowest port number (whose controller is closest to P1). As multiple players must be KO'd on the same frame for this to occur and the games run at 60 frames per second, the chances of this occurring are slim and any advantage given to certain player numbers compared to others is decidedly negligible, especially since Sudden Death is never used in competitive play. In ''Brawl'', tests have shown that the winner of the match is decided at random. In ''SSB4'', the winner is whoever dealt the most damage, with placement of the other players following suit. | Should a tie occur within Sudden Death itself, which can only happen if all remaining characters are KO'd on the same frame, the match will end and one player will be declared the winner. In the first two ''Super Smash Bros.'' games, placement is based on [[port priority]]: in the original ''Super Smash Bros.'', the winner is the player with the highest port number (whose controller is closest to P4), while in ''Melee'', the winner is the player with the lowest port number (whose controller is closest to P1). As multiple players must be KO'd on the same frame for this to occur and the games run at 60 frames per second, the chances of this occurring are slim and any advantage given to certain player numbers compared to others is decidedly negligible, especially since Sudden Death is never used in competitive play. In ''Brawl'', tests have shown that the winner of the match is decided at random. In ''SSB4'', the winner is whoever dealt the most damage, with placement of the other players following suit. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN3TfTmXOu0 Otherwise, an extremely rare glitch will occur that just picks any character as the winner, including the one that died '''first'''.] | ||
In ''SSB4'''s {{b|Tourney|SSB4-Wii U}} mode, Sudden Death doesn't occur in Regular Tourneys, and can be disabled in player-made Tourneys as well. If a tie occurs when Sudden Death is disabled, victory is awarded to the player who dealt the most damage throughout the match. | In ''SSB4'''s {{b|Tourney|SSB4-Wii U}} mode, Sudden Death doesn't occur in Regular Tourneys, and can be disabled in player-made Tourneys as well. If a tie occurs when Sudden Death is disabled, victory is awarded to the player who dealt the most damage throughout the match. |
Revision as of 16:24, November 29, 2016
- For the Special Mode, see Super Sudden Death.
Sudden Death occurs when any VS. mode match ends in a tie. A tie happens when at least two characters or teams have the same final score at the end of a Time match, the same amount of stocks at the end of a timed Stock match, the same amount of coins at the end of a Coin Battle, or the same total score at the end of a Bonus match. In an untimed Stock match, Sudden Death is possible if all remaining characters lose their last stock on the same frame.
Overview
When Sudden Death occurs, the words "Sudden Death" will appear onscreen with the announcer calling it and the match will restart with only the players involved in the tie, all of whom are given one stock and 300% damage, making them very easy to KO in a single hit. In effect, this makes it so the first player to land a hit on their opponent(s) wins Sudden Death and therefore the match. With the exception of the original Super Smash Bros., items will not spawn at this time even if they are turned on.
If nobody wins after roughly 20 seconds, Bob-ombs begin to fall from the sky to speed up the match in all games besides Smash 64. Unlike the Bob-omb items, these immediately explode on contact with any surface or player. As all players have 300% damage, getting hit by a Bob-omb is essentially an instant KO; however, with precise timing, players can grab Bob-ombs in midair with air dodges. Prior to Smash 4, it is possible for a falling Bob-omb to instantly KO a player off a side blast line while the other player is currently being sent flying by a Screen or Star KO, causing the latter player to win the match in the middle of their KO animation; in Smash 4, Star and Screen KOs no longer occur during Sudden Death.
Should a tie occur within Sudden Death itself, which can only happen if all remaining characters are KO'd on the same frame, the match will end and one player will be declared the winner. In the first two Super Smash Bros. games, placement is based on port priority: in the original Super Smash Bros., the winner is the player with the highest port number (whose controller is closest to P4), while in Melee, the winner is the player with the lowest port number (whose controller is closest to P1). As multiple players must be KO'd on the same frame for this to occur and the games run at 60 frames per second, the chances of this occurring are slim and any advantage given to certain player numbers compared to others is decidedly negligible, especially since Sudden Death is never used in competitive play. In Brawl, tests have shown that the winner of the match is decided at random. In SSB4, the winner is whoever dealt the most damage, with placement of the other players following suit. Otherwise, an extremely rare glitch will occur that just picks any character as the winner, including the one that died first.
In SSB4's Tourney mode, Sudden Death doesn't occur in Regular Tourneys, and can be disabled in player-made Tourneys as well. If a tie occurs when Sudden Death is disabled, victory is awarded to the player who dealt the most damage throughout the match.
In competitive play
In tournaments, should Sudden Death occur, it is ignored, with the winner being decided by other factors. This is because of three main reasons:
- As a Sudden Death match is always untimed, and with the raining Bob-ombs, camping and planking become dominant strategies. This results in the match going on for an indefinite length of time, as each player simply stalls and waits for their opponent to make a mistake.
- Character balance is significantly skewed. In an environment where almost any attack can KO, frail characters with fast attacks have a massive advantage over characters whose main advantage is normally in power or survivability. For example, Sonic or Pit may be able to quickly strike their opponent before they can react, whereas Bowser or Ganondorf could have major problems trying to hit their opponent before they themselves are hit.
- As Sudden Death in (timed) Stock matches is based solely on the flat number of stocks remaining, it becomes a viable strategy for a player who is tied in stocks with their opponent but far behind in damage to intentionally stall out the clock until Sudden Death occurs, thus eliminating the percentage difference and giving themselves a chance to win within seconds. Players generally agree this is an unfair way to stage a comeback, allowing someone who is being clearly outplayed to win a match with a single blow. An infamous example of this occurring was in the grand finals set between ZeRo and Hungrybox at the Super Smash Bros. Invitational; the Invitational, while having standard competitive rules for its grand finals match, used Sudden Death to resolve a stock tie. ZeRo, being aware of this, intentionally camped out and avoided confrontation at the end of the match when Hungrybox took a significant percent lead on their last stock. With Hungrybox playing Kirby against ZeRo's much more agile Zero Suit Samus, he was unable to land a finishing blow before time ran out despite his significant percent lead, leading to Sudden Death where ZeRo then won by just being able to land a quick hit despite clearly losing the match beforehand.
As a result of being too imbalanced to be used to resolve ties, should Sudden Death occur in a tournament, the winner is declared by some other criteria. In the most common case of the clock expiring while both players are tied in remaining stocks, the player with the lower damage percentage wins. In the rare event of both players having equal stock and damage, or if both players are simultaneously KO'd (on the same frame) on their last stock, the winner is determined through a one-stock rematch with the same characters on the same stage. If both players are KO'd at the same time due to a sacrificial KO, tournaments often have a rule that declares the initiator the winner, instead of holding a one-stock rematch.
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Trivia
- The crowd is silent during Sudden Death in all games except for SSB4.
- Players can trigger Sudden Death in untimed stock matches by using sacrificial KOs with two players remaining (though in SSB4, attackers are KO'd first for most sacrificial KOs), or by having players stand on a falling horizontal platform that surpasses the lower blast line. In Smash 64, the player who has the highest controller port (closest to port 4) always wins; without matches even going to sudden death.
- Oddly, ties will not result in Sudden Death in Melee if the game is run in debug mode.[What happens instead?]
- In the original Super Smash Bros., if a player uses hacks to play as Master Hand and Sudden Death occurs, he will start with 0 HP instead of 300 HP and won't be able to attack.
- The Bob-ombs that appear in Sudden Death will always appear over the stage from random points below the ceiling. Thus if a character(s) can suspend themselves above the upper blast line (for example, by using a ladder), then they can avoid the Bob-ombs indefinitely.
- King Dedede and Kirby can also survive the Bob-ombs indefinitely regardless of their damage percent, by using their custom moves Armored Jet Hammer and Giant Hammer, as both provide indefinite Super Armor.
- In Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS, in a timed match with no score display, the player can actually determine if the match will go into Sudden Death or not. If it is, the damage meters for the fighters going in Sudden Death stay on the bottom screen; if not, they fade away.
- A similar thing can be done for the Wii U version: If going into Sudden Death, the match will still keep going at normal speed when the announcer says "TIME!".
- In early builds of Super Smash Bros. 4., Star KOs and Screen KOs still occurred during Sudden Death.
- If Sudden Death occurs in the Boxing Ring, then the scrolling LED panel and jumbotron will say "SUDDEN DEATH".