Forum:Page creation rights

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This discussion is in regards to a proposed change on SmashWiki. The discussion must first meet with a consensus before it is implemented.

So recently a lot of newer users have been wondering why they are unable to create page or upload images. The reason for this is because page creation is restricted to autoconfirmed users only. Now, this was a necessary measure there for a while (and this was not the case when I first joined SW a year or so ago), but now, with Smash 4 done and over with, I think that we could possibly put it back to regular old users (Not IPs) without too many issues. Anyway, I wanted to see what you all had to say, so discuss here. Serpent King 21:19, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

Support

1. I'd be fine with that. Aidan, the Wandering Dragon Warrior 21:21, 18 July 2016 (EDT)
2. I see no real reason not to. BaconMaster 21:25, 18 July 2016 (EDT)
3. User Consensus Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ 21:35, 18 July 2016 (EDT)
4. Support: Bout time we got that back to normal anyway. Disaster Flare (talk) 23:03, 18 July 2016 (EDT)
5. Strong Support To prevent spam pages. TabuuandMasterCore 16:57, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

   Forget the last part, I meant to say that new users can create their pages and things is going to be when I was a non editor anon a few years ago. TabuuandMasterCore 17:00, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

6. I always felt that limiting new pages and uploads was a temporary measure, not a permanent restriction. Toomai Glittershine The Pan-Galactic 22:51, 19 July 2016 (EDT)
7. Can do. Dots (talk) The Portal 23:46, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Oppose; the number of new pages we need is generally few, and it's not such an excessive obstacle to legitimate editors to warrant opening up the vandalism opportunities. Miles (talk) 23:35, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

   My main concern is uploads, actually. Serpent King 23:38, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

   More of a gray area, but if the two permission sets can't be separated, I'd err on the side of slightly more restrictive in this case. Miles (talk) 23:50, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

2. Oppose per Miles. John PK SMAAAASH!! 13:15, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

Neutral

1. Neutral AF. I don't have a strong opinion. On one hand, we have new people who want to make themselves known in the wiki. On the other hand, we risk people spamming recent changes with their user pages, and even if this means they'll get probated, I don't like the idea. That's why I am neutral. -- BeepYou: is he leaving the wiki? (talk) 00:04, 19 July 2016 (EDT)
2. Echoing BeepYou. DracoRexKing, Creator of the Land 00:33, 19 July 2016 (EDT)
3. Support easing restrictions, oppose completely removing restrictions. While there may be fewer potential cases of vandalism in the coming months, the risk has not completely vanished. In 2011/2012ish, for instance, we had a repeat vandal constantly recreate a page on Geno, to the point where OT eventually salted the page.
   --- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 13:05, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

   The problem is that the upload permission requires the create page permission in order to work and there doesn't seem to be a way around that. Or did you mean something else by easing restrictions? Serpent King 14:11, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

   Was looking into lowering the requirements for autoconfirmed. 10 edits + 7 days is a bit excessive now, imo. Maybe reduce it to 3 edits and 2 days, or something similar.
   --- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 14:44, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

Comments

Could vandalism pages still be created by new users? Kirby's Crazy Appetite ~ 21:27, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

Well yes, but with Smash 4 over, we are much more able to deal with that. Serpent King 21:33, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

The way I see it is this: Why bother giving the vandals a chance at all? John PK SMAAAASH!! 00:15, 20 July 2016 (EDT)