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However, Marth's grab does come with downsides. Like many grabs, it has noticeable endlag, making it punishable when whiffed. Additionally, while his grab may extend a long distance, Marth's grounded grab actually cannot reach some crouching characters, most notoriously {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}, which means it is not a foolproof approach option. Despite these flaws, Marth's grab is still one of his greatest advantages over other characters, and players utilize this move in their neutral and punish games at all levels of play. | However, Marth's grab does come with downsides. Like many grabs, it has noticeable endlag, making it punishable when whiffed. Additionally, while his grab may extend a long distance, Marth's grounded grab actually cannot reach some crouching characters, most notoriously {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}, which means it is not a foolproof approach option. Despite these flaws, Marth's grab is still one of his greatest advantages over other characters, and players utilize this move in their neutral and punish games at all levels of play. | ||
His dash grab is able to grab behind of him, but doesn't extend out as far out in front of him. | His dash grab is able to grab behind of him, but doesn't extend out as far out in front of him and has more stating and ending lag. | ||
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{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=6}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=22}} | |||
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===Dash Grab=== | |||
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{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=9}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=29}} | |||
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{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y}} | |||
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[[Category:Grabs (SSBM)]] | [[Category:Grabs (SSBM)]] | ||
Revision as of 19:40, January 1, 2016
Overview
Marth's grab is the longest non-tether grab in Melee, and the fourth longest grab in the game. It is a staple part of his metagame, as many of Marth's most potent combos and setups stem from his high-utility throws; often, Marth achieves his biggest possible conversions off of a grab, and his grab range makes these setups very consistent. The long range also allows him to chain grab the space animals more consistently than almost any other character can, besides possibly Fox himself. Marth's dash dance grab is particularly strong, and is one of his best neutral game options, as he can cover multiple spacings with his long dash dance, while further challenging the opponent's space and threatening to put them in unsafe positions with his long grab.
However, Marth's grab does come with downsides. Like many grabs, it has noticeable endlag, making it punishable when whiffed. Additionally, while his grab may extend a long distance, Marth's grounded grab actually cannot reach some crouching characters, most notoriously Jigglypuff, which means it is not a foolproof approach option. Despite these flaws, Marth's grab is still one of his greatest advantages over other characters, and players utilize this move in their neutral and punish games at all levels of play.
His dash grab is able to grab behind of him, but doesn't extend out as far out in front of him and has more stating and ending lag.
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