List of updates (SSB4)/1.0.8 changelog

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This is the list of known changes in version 1.0.8 of Super Smash Bros. 4. All claims on this page must be verifiable, preferably with a trustable source link, and must compare both the old and new states. Ensure that all changes are also listed on the respective pages.

Universal

• Grounded to air ledge transition mechanics altered.

Bowser

• Occurence of an unknown action in up tilt: frame 11 → frame 10
• Up tilt hitbox 2 removed.
• Up tilt damage: 10% → 9%
• Up tilt startup: 12 frames → 11 frames
• Up tilt hitbox X-offset: 7.4 → 6.9
• Up tilt endlag: 51 frames → 41 frames

Captain Falcon

• Up air damage: 13% → 11%

Charizard

• Jab 1's weight-based knockback increased.
• Transition from first to second jab is one frame earlier.
• Neutral air is faster.
• Up throw knockback increased significantly.
• Down throw knockback reduced significantly, making it ideal for combos but it less a reliable KO move.

Diddy Kong

• Jab 1 damage: 1.5% → 1.2%
• Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 10 → frame 8
• Jab 2 damage: 1.5% → 1.2%
• Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 9 → frame 8
• Jab 3 weight-based knockback: 30 → 25
• Jab 3 hitbox sizes: 4/3.5/3 → 4.2/3.7/3.2
• Transition between third hit and looping hits of jab: frame 22 → frame 15
• Looping hits of jab now use a large, single hitbox as opposed to many small ones.
• Looping hits of jab damage: 0.6% → 0.5%
• Looping hits of jab angle: 70/90 → 60
• Looping hits of jab weight-based knockback: 6 → 4
• SDI of jab rapid hits: 1.3 → 0.7
• Unknown parameters of rapid jab hits changed from default to 6.8 and 6.
• Final hit of jab animation length: frame 8 → frame 4
• Final hit of jab knockback scaling: 180 → 177
• Final hit of jab base knockback: 30 → 45
• Final hit of jab hitbox size: 5 → 7.2
• Final hit of jab Y-offset: 5.5 → 6.8
• Unknown parameters of final hits of jab changed from 5.5 to 6.8 and 6.
• Down tilt given an additional hitbox.
• Down tilt damage: 6% → 5.5%
• Up air startup: 3 frames → 4 frames
• Up air autocancel: 15 frames → 27 frames
• Up air base knockback: 65 → 64
• Up air knockback growth: 99 → 89
• Up throw (hit 1) damage: 4% → 1%
• Up throw (hit 1) base knockback: 30 → 50
• Up throw (hit 1) knockback scaling: 100 → 120
• Down throw damage: 6% → 7%
• Down throw angle: 105° → 106°
• Down throw knockback scaling: 50 → 59

Donkey Kong

• Cargo forward throw damage: 8% → 10%
• Cargo back throw damage: 8% → 12%
• Cargo back throw angle: 55° → 72°
• Cargo back throw base knockback: 80 → 70
• Cargo up throw damage: 7% → 10%
• Cargo down throw damage: 6% → 7%
• Cargo down throw angle: 45° → 48°
• Cargo back throw base knockback: 65 → 50
• Cargo back throw knockback scaling: 38 → 80
• Occurence of an unknown action in cargo back throw: frame 18 → frame 17
• DK now hops while performing cargo down toss.

Falco

• Neutral air (hit 2) damage: 3% → 2%
• Neutral air hits now auto link.
• Neutral air's final hit now forces front-facing knockback.
• Forward air damage: 8% → 9%
• Forward air landing damage: 5% → 3%
• Forward air has less lag overall.
• Up air damage: 11% → 10%
• Up air sourspot removed.
• Up air startup: 10 frames → 7 frames
• Down air sweetspot no longer meteor smashes grounded opponents, but sends them upwards.

Greninja

• Forward tilt damage: 6.5% → 7.3%
• Forward tilt endlag reduced by about ten frames.

Ike

• Jab transitions into second hit faster: Jab 2 startup from 21 frames → 18 frames
• Jab 3 now properly hits above Ike.
• Forward tilt start-up: 15 frames → 12 frames
• Forward tilt damage: 14% → 12.5%
• Dash attack has less start-up (18 frames → 15 frames) and deals more damage (Sweet spot: 10% → 14%. Sour spot: 7% → 11% and 5% → 9%)
• Neutral air landing lag: 16 frames → 13 frames
• Forward air has better hitbox placements (Hits better above and below him).
• Forward air landing lag reduced: 19 frames → 18 frames
• Up air landing lag reduced: 18 frames → 15 frames
• Down air landing lag reduced: 26 frames → 23 frames
• Quick Draw startup reduced: 19 frames → 16 frames

Kirby

• Upward angled forward smash sourspot deals 1% less damage, and K.O.s 11% later.

Link

• Down tilt damage: 12% → 11%
• X-offsets of down tilt: 12.8/15.4 → 14.1/16.6
• Down tilt startup: 13 frames → 11 frames
• Down tilt endlag: 31 frames → 28 frames
• Up smash now links better.
• Grab range increased.
• Standing grab endlag: 66 frames → 61 frames
• Dash grab endlag: 77 frames → 65 frames
• Pivot grab endlag: 79 frames → 66 frames
• Forward throw angle: 55° → 50°
• Down throw (hit 2) damage: 4% → 3%
• Down throw angle: 110° → 83°
• Down throw knockback growth: 90 → 85
• Spin Attack knockback growth (stages 1-3): 84/80/80 → 85/85/82
• Shocking Spin Attack stage 2 knockback growth: 80 → 82

Lucario

• Jab (hit 1) knockback decreased, allowing it to connect more easily with the second hit.

Lucina

• Jab (hit 1) angle modified to make it easier to follow up on.
• Jab endlag and time until earliest transitions are two frames shorter.
• Up tilt knockback increased.
• Up tilt endlag: 42 frames → 39 frames
• Up tilt body hitbox angle more vertical.
• Forward tilt damage: 9.975% → ~10.85%
• Neutral air landing lag: 15 frames → 12 frames
• Dolphin Slash knockback increased.
• Activation of Counter now plays a quote.

Marth

• Jab (hit 1) damage: 4%/6% → 3%/5%
• Jab (hit 1) angle modified to make it easier to follow up on.
• Jab endlag and time until earliest transitions are two frames shorter.
• Up tilt knockback increased.
• Up tilt endlag: 42 frames → 39 frames
• Marth moves forward if actions are taken during IASA frames.
• Up tilt body hitbox angle more vertical.
• Neutral air landing lag: 15 frames → 12 frames
• Dolphin Slash knockback increased.

Mii Swordfighter

• Back air damage: 12% → 14%
• Airborne Assault hits lower.

Meta Knight

• Jab damage: 1% → 1.2%
• Jab endlag reduced by approximately twelve frames.
• Forward tilt final hit angle: 65° → ~40°
• Forward tilt final hit damage: 3% → 4%
• Forward tilt endlag reduced by approximately ten frames.
• Neutral air landing lag reduced.

Mewtwo

• Confusion throw distance reduced.

Mr. Game & Watch

• Down tilt base knockback (sweetspot): 10 → 40
• Down tilt knockback scaling (sweetspot): 120 → 125
• Down tilt base knockback (sourspot): 60 → 70
• Down tilt knockback scaling (sourspot): 100 → 120
• Down tilt sourspot size: 9 → 10.5
• Unknown parameter of down tilt sourspot: 11 → 9

Ness

• PSI Magnet endlag reduced.

Olimar

• Pikmin Order no longer reverses from ledge grabs.

Palutena

• Up tilt hitboxes moved from bone 1000 to bone 0.
• Up tilt loop hits link better into themselves.
• Up tilt (loop hits) damage: 1% → 1.2%

Peach

• Jab hit 1 range: 2.4 → 3
• Jab hit 2 range: 2.4 → 4

Robin

• Automatic pushback from jab's rapid hit can now cause Robin to hang on the ledge.

Rosalina & Luma

• Luma HP: 47 → 50
• Rapid jab end knockback scaling: 170 → 150

Samus

• Up smash hitbox sizes increased by 0.5.
• Certain hitboxes in Up Smash split.
• Up smash (final hit) knockback growth: 135 → 150
• Up smash final hitbox sizes: 7/3.5 → 7.3/4

Sonic

• Up Smash (final hit) knockback growth: 177 → 165
• Down air endlag reduced.
• Up throw knockback increased.

Toon Link

• Jab 2 knockback growth: 37 → 34
• Jab 2 base knockback: 16 → 25
• Jab 3 hitbox sizes: 3.5 → 4.2
• Jab 3 hitbox 0 Z-offset: 5 → 4.5

Villager

• Down throw damage: 4.5% → 6%
• Consecutive uses of Balloon Trip now result in less distance.

Wario

• Unknown parameters set to 63 and 15 on many hitboxes.
• Jab 1 (hitbox 0) angle: 65° → 55°
• Jab 1 (hitbox 0) base knockback: 35 → 45
• Jab 1 (hitbox 1) angle: 75° → 72°
• Jab 1 (hitbox 1) knockback scaling: 50 → 40
• Jab 1 (hitbox 1) base knockback: 28 → 38
• Jab 2 hitbox sizes: 5.5/3.5 → 5.8/3.8/3.3

Zelda

• Up Smash (final hit)knockback scaling: 190 → 214
• Up Smash (multihits) size: 3 → 3.5
• SDI of Up Smash multihits set to 0.5.
• Up Smash weight-based knockback (multihits): 60 → 40
• Sweetspot and sourspot on neutral air switched.
• Neutral air landing lag: 22 frames → 19 frames.
• Up air landing lag: 22 frames → 19 frames
• Down air landing lag: 21 frames → 18 frames

References

• SmashBoards thread
• YouTube video analyzing Ike's buffs from 1.0.7 to 1.0.8