Talk:Falco (SSB4)

Should I mention that one of the pictures on his page on the website is a reference to Momotaro? --Bob8644 (talk) 13:24, 13 October 2014 (EDT)

"The following appears to be unchanged"

Shouldn't we specify that "the following appears to unchanged" since Brawl? Because Falco was a much different character in Melee. davidvkimball 16:48, 11 September 2014 (EDT)

Because this page does the changes from Brawl to SSB4, I think that's kind of implied. Aidan the Gamer 11:22, 14 October 2014 (EDT)

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" Falco was nerfed from Brawl to Smash 4, with his lasers and some of his movement and KO options being made much less useful. Although he did receive some buffs, they do not properly compensate for the nerfs. " - - - Is the bolded line really necessary? It really seems like a matter of opinion to me. I'm loving Falco in this one more than in Brawl, personally. I know I'm alone, but it really is a matter of opinion and not of fact. --Bakester14 (talk) 17:41, 8 November 2014 (EST)

I agree, it seems opinion-y. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 17:43, 8 November 2014 (EST)

It's not really opinionated to me. It's just saying that, while he does have buffs, his nerfs don't cancel them out. Aidan the Gamer 23:19, 8 November 2014 (EST)

Assuming the game does not get patched frequently, the competitive potential of a character is an objective quality, not a subjective one. With that in mind, most competitive players will agree that Falco is trash. The bulk of his neutral game in previous games consisted of using lasers to make his approaches safe. Now that his lasers have landing lag, he can no longer do this. As such he has a very weak neutral game, given the fact that his moves have very punishable endlag and he lacks Fox's movement. Now unless any of you can prove me wrong, I suggest we revert the summary describing Falco's nerfs to the previous one, or letting me write a paragraph that accurately describes how terrible Falco became.--Brian^{Don't try me!} 23:51, 8 November 2014 (EST)

What I don't get is why people think updates/patches bring buffs/nerfs to characters. People on Smashboards already proved that rumor wrong.

But yes, that does need a rewrite. Aidan the Gamer 23:53, 8 November 2014 (EST)

I think we should retain short summaries (for all characters) for now. Longer ones can come after the metagame's developed for several months - sure, major changes are unlikely, but then everything's at least somewhat even. Toomai Glittershine The Sphere 23:58, 8 November 2014 (EST)

Landmaster

• Landmaster is less powerful.

Can someone please remove this nerf from this page and Fox's page?, i mean, Final Smashes are banned from tournaments so it don't affect his moveset. YoshiKong (talk) 12:59, 4 December 2014 (EST)

Just because it's not in tournaments doesn't mean it's not a change. PikaSamus (talk) 13:06, 4 December 2014 (EST)