Smasher talk:Isai

Move I want to move the page to Isai . Who aggrees (if u agree put Agree in bold letters if u don't pu disagree for an extra-opinion put Strong before the word) --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zinnamon (talk • contribs)

Agree, actually. For consistency with other smasher articles. --RJM ^Talk 20:28, November 20, 2007 (EST) Pssst...Zinnamon...sign.your.comments!

I hope Isai reads this talk page, too. And then doesn't reply knowing he has nothing to prove and leaving you eternally defeated. :^) --Randall00 05:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I deleted my past post of challenging Isai, given that it was offensive. I would also like to apologize to Isai himself and to anyone who might've been exposed to that content. I was trippin' balls that night (not really) and I wasn't thinking clearly. Sure, I could probably beat him, but that's no excuse to just straight out smack-talk him. I'm sorry (again). Also, while we're on the topic of offensive content, is it OK if I erase "Jesus" as one of Isai's nicknames? As a Christian, I have no problem with it, but other Christians might. - GalaxiaD 22:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Please do. That's not a real alias by any means. --Randall00 23:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

god...

this page almost makes him sound like more of a jackass then he already is. isai is to good? find me 3 rivals of his that aren't jackasses that say that. KP317 (talk) 22:49, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Guinness doesn't keep world records for annoying. You can stop trying to set it. Nobody cares. 208.53.137.178 23:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Too good. JtM =^] (talk) 00:10, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Strong words for a jackass. Kperfekt ^{BURN!!! Revert That!} 01:12, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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Isai in Brawl

He plays, but I honestly don't have enough info on who he uses/what he's done in SSBB as of yet. So whoever does know this stuff *coughcoughjtmcoughcough* should really put it in there. Shade487z 07:24, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Isai returning from retirement

Is Isai going to play Melee again because he joined a tournament not too long ago and he reached 17th place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.128.121 15:54 (talk • contribs) April 22, 2010

Smash 64 characters

I really have no idea which characters should be listed for the Smash 64 section of his smasherbeta. He obviously dominates the most with Pikachu/Fox, as seen in friendlies, but he just goes a different character every time in national tournaments. So should it be the characters he has a higher potential with or the characters he's been using in recent nationals? Scr7(talk · contribs) 13:26, 23 March 2014 (EDT)

"Sandbagging"

Isai had a Reddit AMA. Right there in the title it says "I have been playing SSB since 1999. My favorite characters are Link, Mario, Fox, Luigi, DK, Yoshi and Jigglypuff."

It is incorrect to say he is sandbagging if he is using his favorite character(s).

Otherwise everyone not playing Pikachu would be considered sandbagging. The sandbagging accusations for the past apex's should be removed.

If playing with your favorite character but not your best character is considered sandbagging, then half of japan is sandbagging, including Jousuke.

Herbert Von Karajan (talk) 15:29, 26 May 2014 (EDT)

By this logic, Mew2King is not sandbagging when he plays Mewtwo and Roy, right? Because those are also some of his "favorites," yet he only uses them in matches he considers irrelevant. The problem with this argument is that, while Isai's "favorite" characters are the ones he plays with in tournaments, they are not his best characters. He has Pikachu as his best yet he refuses to play him. Thus, he is deliberately playing below his skill level. --Timson622222 (talk) 15:56, 26 May 2014 (EDT)

We've gone through this before. Stop. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:50, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Has Mew2King ever played character locked as Mewtwo/Roy through an entire Apex caliber tournament? Didn't think so. In Japan, every person character locks through most of their smash career. For example, Josuke plays only Samus in tournament, even though his Kirby is considered the best in Japan, and general consensus by the Japanese players is that he would completely dominate with Kirby. This isn't deliberate sandbagging, it is part of SSB64 culture. Herbert Von Karajan (talk) 18:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

I agree with Herbert here. It's simply not true that any character not named Pikachu is a "sandbagging" character. Isai practices with (mains) the characters he listed as his favorites anyway, and there's a difference between maining a character because he or she is your favorite and saying a character is your favorite, but using higher or top tier characters more regularly (which Isai doesn't do). Consider as well that SSB64 is more balanced than its successors, so low- and mid-tier mains are a lot more common than they are in Melee and Brawl. Blue Ninjakoopa 19:14, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

I main Ness, but I play with Wolf, Ganon, and a bunch more because they're good. They're not my best characters, but you can't just hope to do good in tournaments with just one character. For example, let's say a Ness main is pitted against a Peach main. Ness is countered by Peach, so the Ness main goes over to Wolf, who soft counters her.Qwerty da beast 21:05, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

That's actually not how it works. The Ness main in question can't hope to just up and win simply because he picked a soft-/hard-counter, he has to also know how to use Wolf (specifically the tools Wolf has that give Peach such a hard time). If he doesn't know how to play Wolf, he's better off sticking with Ness, because he's sure to lose. A -/+2 on the matchup chart doesn't mean an instant loss/win, stop acting like that dictates which characters people use. Blue Ninjakoopa 21:26, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Also, Isai won Apex 2014 with "just one character," and placed 2nd at Apex 2012 and Apex 2013 with "just one character." That argument holds no water. Blue Ninjakoopa 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Isai has a habit of using different characters at every national he goes to, but Pikachu is recogized as his best character. He stated that if he goes to Zenith 2014, he would use Pikachu/Kirby to "ensure that CT has a good placing." PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 21:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)