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I think lots of people misunderstood 'popularity' and 'strength' [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> ㄴ(°n°ㄴ)'''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''Y U NOSZ''']] [[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 11:45, 28 November 2011 (EST)
I think lots of people misunderstood 'popularity' and 'strength' [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> ㄴ(°n°ㄴ)'''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''Y U NOSZ''']] [[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 11:45, 28 November 2011 (EST)
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I don't play Brawl.[[User:Doomolish|Doomolish]] ([[User talk:Doomolish|talk]]) 21:43, 30 November 2011 (EST)


==Round 113: [[Smash Ball]] vs. [[Dragoon]]==
==Round 113: [[Smash Ball]] vs. [[Dragoon]]==

Revision as of 21:43, November 30, 2011

Forums: Index Smash Arena


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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you don't have to have an account to vote! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

The Rules

  1. When voting, you can give a brief comment on why you voted the way you did, or you can just leave your signature.
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Round 114: Mites vs. Tabuu

Winner!!
undecided

0 to 0
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These Subspace Army members are polar opposites in nearly every way - size, power, multiplicity, and so on - though both are dangerous in their own right. Which humanoid gets the prize?

Votes for Mites

  1. Sure, they're small, weak and easy to destroy, but think about it. They team up, rush towards you, and try in their best efforts to hurt you. And then die majestically in battle. You've got to give them a little break. Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! (talk) 03:16, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  2. 2d ftw ㄴ(°n°ㄴ)Lucas-IV- Y U NOSZ Lucas alive.PNG 03:39, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  3. Tabuu is easier then a whole group of these. If the supposed "Weakest" minion is harder to beat then the actual leader, then...yeah. Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 04:37, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  4. I named a goldfish Tabuu. In big numbers, Mites are a hindrance, but Tabuu has ended a lot of Intense Boss Battles challenges, typically with Golden Chain or Off Waves. As Mites are stronger in big numbers, they're going to need more votes. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 05:44, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  5. Well obviously plenty of people are gonna vote for Tabuu because he's stronger, the final boss, etc. But I've never really liked him that well. Since this is a popularity contest, I'm voting for the Mites. 67.173.145.76 10:02, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  6. I pity da foo. 68.174.11.29 17:36, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  7. Stickers and trophy stands come often and easy when fighting a swarm of these. Pokémonultimate File:PTHeadSSBB.png 21:57, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  8. KARATE KICK 125.166.122.103 02:34, 28 November 2011 (EST)
  9. --189.170.10.164 12:33, 29 November 2011 (EST)

Votes for Tabuu

  1. Tabuu is a being MORE POWERFUL THAN MASTER HAND. Mites are annoying mooks. Smasher49 (talk) 21:07, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  2. Mites can't even jump that high. They wouldn't be able to reach Tabuu if he stayed up high. But Tabuu can hit the Mites anywhere since he has projectile attacks. 110.174.90.69 21:10, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  3. Tabuu MAKES these wimps. Air kills these wimps.Why do we even debate this?Drakkon64 (talk) 21:16, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  4. BlindColours Boing.png 21:25, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  5. ............... thanks. ..... 10th MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png 21:37, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  6. It's not even fair! Yoshirocks341 YoshiHeadSSBB.png 23:17, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  7. Less annoying. --174.59.4.202 00:50, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  8. It's one of Tabuu, but 100's of Mites! Mites are pests in lage numbers, hands down. 98.242.123.228 01:19, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  9. Do I really need to explain my vote? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:33, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  10. I actually believe a LIGHT BLUE HUMAN is more popular than a bunch of weird color-like creatures. --107.5.88.135 06:43, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  11. It's not even a contest. Tabuu can take down nearly every smasher in one hit with his Off Waves, the Mites can't even do nearly as much damage. GormanLuigi (talk) 10:42, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  12. Let's thing what would happen if Mites battled Tabuu. Hard question. Oh yeah! Tabuu would just use his Off-Waves and kill all of them at once. Looks like that wasn't so hard a question after all! Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 12:41, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  13. This is probably the most unfair competition we've done so far. I'm only voting for Tabuu because he's actually a difficult enemy. --FireEmblemFan275 12:55, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  14. 204.191.129.218 13:01, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  15. Okay... HOW IN THE WORLD CAN MITES BEAT TABUU! TABUU IS THEIR CREATOR AND MASTER! Besides, Off Waves is an awesome attack!174.20.249.110 17:47, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  16. The secret ruler of Subspace, able to control Master Hand, and has one of the most powerful attacks in the SSB series, if it isn't the most powerful. Who could ask for more? ...Minna, miteite kure! MeleeMarth01 MarthHeadSSBM.png 19:44, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  17. I...I have lost faith...Smash Arena? How 'bout Smash Morgue? 25T16File:HitboxEffect(Flame).pngIt’s a me! 21:43, 26 November 2011 (EST)
  18. Oooo, a pun. Krazy! --HavocReaper48 00:46, 27 November 2011 (EST)
  19. Doughnut for a heart. Your argument is irrelevant. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 11:51, 27 November 2011 (EST)
  20. Tabuu is a being stronger than Master Hand. Mites are the dinkiest little enemies. HARDLY EVEN A CONTEST. 92.28.204.35 03:07, 28 November 2011 (EST)
  21. Tabuu is super strong and Mites are little wimps.Mastersword (talk) 03:20, 29 November 2011 (EST)
  22. It's Taboo for me to tell you all why I voted for Tabuu. Sonicsidekick95 SonicHeadSSBB.png 14:09, 30 November 2011 (EST)
  23. mites are really annoying so i'll vote for this guyFloor2000x (talk) 16:43, 30 November 2011 (EST)

Half-Votes

  1. The answer is obvious. Tabuu> Mites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PKWaddleDee (talkcontribs) 15:56, 26th November 2011 (EST)

Comments

Hey, Toomai, while I personally quite like this fight, I must question why it was chosen to be used in the Smash Arena when it got a Support/Oppose ratio of 5/8 on the Suggestions page? Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 08:48, 26 November 2011 (EST)

The Support/Oppose ratio is certainly important when determining whether a bout is selected, and admittedly this one probably has the lowest of any chosen fight in recent memory. But when it comes down to it, it's my decision in the end, and I felt this fight's inherently unbalanced nature could provide some interesting results compared to most other relatively-even rounds. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Bold 12:26, 26 November 2011 (EST)
I agree with Toomai; the army of many who are weak alone vs. the one who created them is a unique type of fight. I can't wait for the final score of this. ...Minna, miteite kure! MeleeMarth01 MarthHeadSSBM.png
yep, and lets see who is moar popular, not stronger ㄴ(°n°ㄴ)Lucas-IV- Y U NOSZ Lucas alive.PNG 23:10, 26 November 2011 (EST)

I think lots of people misunderstood 'popularity' and 'strength' ㄴ(°n°ㄴ)Lucas-IV- Y U NOSZ Lucas alive.PNG 11:45, 28 November 2011 (EST)

I don't play Brawl.Doomolish (talk) 21:43, 30 November 2011 (EST)

Round 113: Smash Ball vs. Dragoon

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Winner!!
Smash Ball
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27.5 to 11
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These two super-powerful rainbow-coloured items can't ever both be onscreen at once, so it's up to this round to pit them against each other to see which one is the bigger deal.

Votes for Smash Ball

  1. Like these better. 204.191.129.218 23:09, 18 November 2011 (EST)
  2. Final Smashes rock! 98.242.123.228 02:53, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  3. Final Smashes are easier to hit with and are a lot more fun to use. 110.174.90.69 03:44, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  4. Urm... it gives you final smashes! You don't need to know anything else. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:00, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  5. Final Smashes!!! :) 68.174.11.29 09:07, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  6. Compare Dragoon with.... Critical Hit.... {--€Lucas-IV- Arrow trap Lucas alive.PNG 12:30, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  7. AURA STORM!!!!! TRIFORCE SLASH!!!!! GREAT AETHER!!!!! PK STARSTORM!!!!! Need I say more?174.30.223.223 18:56, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  8. Final Smashes are designed to grant the player an epic KO. Dragoons, on the other hand, are meant as an actual tactical item, created as a means to introduce a level of uncertainty. This means Dragoons are more useful but Final Smashes tend to be more fun to use. Tough one here. Honestly, I'd go with Smash Ball, because no matter what, when you get it and use it properly, you'll be satisfied. With the Dragoon, however, when you're on a team, it becomes really annoying when the dragoon pieces are split between you and your teammate. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 19:32, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  9. The Smash Ball is supposed to be the best item. Mastersword (talk) 21:27, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  10. This is really hard to decide since they can both KO well, but KIRBY MAKES EVERYTHING SOUP, SONIC SLAMS INTO PPL's FACES, LINK SLICES U TO PIECES, etc. Kopykirby26 (talk) 21:32, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  11. I'll admit it, I fail at using the dragoon, however the smash ball is better anyways.Yoshirocks341 (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  12. Final Smashes are a lot more interesting. Plus the Dragoon is highly annoying during matches: while the Smash Ball goes away on its own after bit if no one gets it, the Dragoon tries to steal the spotlight throughout the entire match.89.153.148.130 05:33, 20 November 2011 (EST)
  13. Meep. --174.59.4.202 13:41, 20 November 2011 (EST)
  14. Missing a Dragoon shot feels absolutely awful. And I'm quite liable to do so. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 08:08, 21 November 2011 (EST)
  15. The Smash Ball gives a lot more options and is easier to achieve. Even though the Dragoon Pieces are awesome, nothing can beat the Smash Ball --"'LightningBlue"' Blue Lighting Should Exist... (talk) 14:06, 22 November 2011 (EST)
  16. You're not guaranteed dead if a cpu opponent obtains it. And while Smashballs can certainly be disruptive, they're not as much as Dragoon pieces appearing are, as pointed out by IP 89. Plus, final smashes are more interesting and entertaining. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 15:50, 22 November 2011 (EST)
  17. Turning Super Sonic to kick CPU and human ass? What more could you wish for! Heidi HedgefoxSonicHeadSSBB.png 16:41, 22 November 2011 (EST)
  18. Getting 3 parts is bothersome Floor2000x (talk) 19:53, 22 November 2011 (EST)
  19. Eeeeeh... easier to hit? Kirbythe Meta+Kirby.jpg Amazing Know my power! 07:36, 23 November 2011 (EST)
  20. Cherrim98Cherrim Box Sprite.pngTalk 09:13, 23 November 2011 (EST)
  21. As cool as the Dragoon is, a Legendary Air Machine (which should have been the "Hydra", which fits the concept of "one-hit knockout/OHKO" better due to its sheer strength compared to the Dragoon's offensive stat) ramming into a fighter the same way each time is trumped by the epicness of the Triforce Slash, Great Aether, Zero Laser, Mario Finale, and a slew of other Final Smashes. Plus, the Smash Ball looks a little cooler. *Snake activates Final Smash at the same time as the Dragoon appears - ERROR* 131.193.13.53 18:09, 23 November 2011 (EST)
  22. epic and easier to obtain-kyle.b talk KirbyHeadSSBB.png(contributions) 13:13, 24 November 2011 (EST)
  23. It gives you a wider and better array of epic attacks, because ramming into someone over and over again is annoying. Where's the variety in that? Not to mention that pure feeling of satisfaction when you show your opponent you true colors, and lay down a beating filled with pure ownage! Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness! (talk) 13:25, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  24. Definately better than the Dragoon. GormanLuigi (talk) 13:55, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  25. Ganon/Aura Storm/Landmaster/Super Sonic>Dragoon--76.97.139.164 15:24, 25 November 2011 (EST)
  26. I got to vote for the Smash Ball. Mainly, because the results are always different and unique depending on which fighter has it. From Critical Hits to Size Increase to Psychedelic Drug Fantasy, my vote is for the Smash Ball. Smasher49 (talk) 17:29, 25 November 2011 (EST)

Half Votes

  1. X Smash "Smash ball is my best item to use, because it give your character extra attack to your foes and kills your enemies. while the dragon pieces can miss your enemies if they move out of the way."X SMASH (talk) 09:52, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  2. I generally play with neither as they are both uber broken, but in most cases, Smash Ball is less broken. AntiAntiGuy (talk) 17:05, 20 November 2011 (EST)
  3. The Smash Ball is the ultimate item! The smash has a better chance of KOing people. It's the best item in the Smash Bros world!!! from Justin D. Llvaina, the greatest smasher and fan.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.134.142 (talkcontribs) 23:28, 19 November 2011 (EST)

Votes for Dragoon

  1. Ready....aim...FIRE!!!BlindColoursBoing.png 21:27, 18 November 2011 (EST)
  2. Kirby Air Ride > Super Smash Bros. --FireEmblemFan275 21:47, 18 November 2011 (EST)
  3. Favourite air ride machine from Kirby Air Ride. Loeved flying around the city in that thing. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 23:16, 18 November 2011 (EST)
  4. [1] --107.5.88.135 07:03, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  5. I was fighting some CPU Warios on Warioware, and then the minigame 'Stand Still' happened when I had all three Dragoon pieces and the Warios were next to each other. I fired away, 3 dragoon victims in one shot! --99.255.104.101 09:13, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  6. Gimme me something to shoot! -Marine, Starcraft 1 ..... 5 years of Wii FoxHeadSSBB.png 10:45, 19 November 2011 (EST)
  7. You're doomed when the crosshair is out. You can run, but you cannot hide! MeleeMarth01 (talk) 14:15, 19 November 2011 (EST)MarthHeadSSBM.png
  8. Subspace Gunship Go Boom!!! Pokémonultimate File:PTHeadSSBB.png 20:50, 20 November 2011 (EST)
  9. Doomolish (talk) 19:06, 21 November 2011 (EST)
  10. Dragoon should feature in Mario Kart 7 so we can BLAST the Honey Queen away! Sonicsidekick95 SonicHeadSSBB.png 08:25, 22 November 2011 (EST)
  11. Weeeee. --HavocReaper48 18:24, 23 November 2011 (EST)

Comments

Smash Ball vote under Dragoon section? Captain Falcon (Falcon Edit!) File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png 13:30, 19 November 2011 (EST)

He's just stupid :/ {--€Lucas-IV- Arrow trap Lucas alive.PNG 13:39, 19 November 2011 (EST)
Is it OK for someone to move that vote?... Minna, miteite kure! MeleeMarth01 (talk) 14:17, 19 November 2011 (EST)MarthHeadSSBM.png
Already done. --FireEmblemFan275 20:46, 19 November 2011 (EST)
I think he means to move it to Smash ball part... {--€Lucas-IV- Arrow trap Lucas alive.PNG 20:48, 19 November 2011 (EST)
Which is exactly what I did. --FireEmblemFan275 20:51, 19 November 2011 (EST)
Oh, we have a different context then. I was talking about the Dragoon's Half votes section {--€Lucas-IV- Arrow trap Lucas alive.PNG 20:58, 19 November 2011 (EST)
The Half-Votes section should only be used for comments that were not signed. --FireEmblemFan275 21:17, 19 November 2011 (EST)
I also don't get why X Smash's vote is half; is it possibly because of how he put his username before the quote, or something else?...Minna, miteite kure! MeleeMarth01 (talk) 14:47, 20 November 2011 (EST)MarthHeadSSBM.png
X Smash put their name before the #, which screws up the vote and results in it becoming a half vote. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 14:52, 20 November 2011 (EST)
Actually, he originally put his comment below the line that said "Do not put comments before this line" and that was why we originally moved it to the half votes. Mr. AnonMatchupUnknown.pngtalk 15:03, 20 November 2011 (EST)
Thanks for explaining that, Omega and Anon. ...Minna, miteite kure!MeleeMarth01 (talk) 15:37, 20 November 2011 (EST))MarthHeadSSBM.png

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