Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions

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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules

• The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights.
• Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
• Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
• Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week.
• Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight.
• You can remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
• Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.
• Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
• Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
• The comments section is to be used for relevant comments.
• Check this list to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occured 100 rounds ago.
• Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once.
• In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. Reposting it after time has passed is generally a bad idea, since if it's already in the queue it's a waste of time, and if it was rejected the first time chances are it will remain that way. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
• Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
• Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
• If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
• And finally, do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.

Queue

The current queue is as such:

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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

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Template

To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:

==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==

<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~

===Support===

===Oppose===

===Comments===

Suggestions

Princess Peach's Castle vs. Castle Siege

Two castles from Super Smash Bros. History are valued against each other! Which one will prevail? ToastUltimatum File:Swadloon Sprite.jpgComplaints Box 05:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. I guess it could work. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Both are castles.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:35, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. um... yeah. ..... lolz Airbore 10:53, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. I like this one. They're good stages that fit together well. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
5. Why not? They're both castles. --174.59.4.202 15:16, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
6. Sure, why not? Squishyfrog Chat 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
7. My only question is: which Peach's Castle, the Melee one or the 64 one? Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Eh, not really similar. Mr. Anon (talk) 12:16, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Luigi vs. Wario

Well, since Mario vs. Wario and Mario vs. Luigi have been done, this will complete the circle. Besides, they're using overalls! 206.53.148.144 06:59, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Both are spinoffs of Mario. You see a brief interaction between Wario and Luigi in SSE. Mr. Anon (talk) 10:53, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. The reason in the oppose is stupid. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Um, they actually do have a relationship, as said in Wario Land 4's website. (don't bother going there, it doesn't exist anymore.) Other than that, per all. --107.5.57.137 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Mario is Lugi's brother. Wario is Mario's opposite. Luigi is nothing to Wario. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Above.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:35, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. above. ..... lolz Airbore 10:53, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Above. --174.59.4.202 15:16, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
5. Above the first person who said above. Squishyfrog Chat 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
6. B-b-b-breaker combo. ReiDemon 17:43, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
7. Nah.-Ivy73 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Link vs. Luigi

This is a bad fight, but both are green, both are heroes, and they haven't fought yet! 107.5.57.137 07:39, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. GREEN.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:35, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. They ARE one possible combination of teams in Melee's Classic Mode. Reckon it could work. ReiDemon 11:19, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Lol ReiDemon ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Not only both green, but also their names both begin with L. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Just don't like it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. like you said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ..... (talk • contribs)
3. Yeah, they're both green, and, well... That's about it. I'm pretty sure every time Luigi's the hero besides Luigi's Mansion it's non-canon. --174.59.4.202 15:13, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. How about no. Squishyfrog Chat 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Who are you, vote #2 for oppose? --107.5.57.137 11:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

yes I know, my first unsigned post. Please forgive me. ..... lolz Airbore 13:48, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

That was completely uneccessary. Blindcolours Game Boy 13:55, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Oh nevermind. Blindcolours Game Boy 13:56, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Falco vs. Wolf

Basically the same as the Fox vs. Wolf thing. PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:12, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Well, it's just like, completing the circle thingy, and I support! Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 10:19, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. ..... lolz Airbore 10:23, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Hasn't this been suggested before? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Sure ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
5. I don't see why not. Squishyfrog Chat 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
6. ^^^-Ivy73 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Just don't see their relationship. --107.5.57.137 11:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Per above comment. ReiDemon 11:18, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Per comment above comment above. --174.59.4.202 15:14, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

@SD: I don't know, but if it was, it can be suggested again right?--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:33, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Failed suggestions are allowed to be reposted, though it is discouraged. Omega Tyrant 10:37, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

So it was suggested before?--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:38, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

To my knowledge, no. But regardless of whether it was suggested previously or not, you can make this suggestion as it is not a matchup that occurred in the past 100 rounds, or was just recently taken down from suggestions to be added or rejected from the queue. Omega Tyrant 10:48, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

@Opposing people: I understand the opposing, but I did this because they're both from the Star Fox universe, and Falco is from the Star Fox team and Wolf from the Star Wolf team. And in Brawl, they have similar special moves.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 11:21, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

I can see where you're coming from, but in the case of the former, Falco and Wolf really have no significance to each other in any of the games, except for the fact that they're on rival factions. Wolf seems a closer rival to Fox because of his shady past with Fox's father, James, but he doesn't seem to have much to do with Falco. For the latter point, while they are similar, the differences between their reflectors make them less of clones of each other than Fox and Wolf. ReiDemon 12:12, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Roy vs. Mewtwo

They were both removed from Melee to Brawl, and they were both kinda replaced by slightly similar characters(plus they were both awesome lol). Seems about time they duke it out in the Smash Arena. Squishyfrog Chat 10:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Yeah.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 10:49, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. sure. ..... lolz Airbore 10:53, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. No one really cares that Pichu, Young Link and the Doc got kicked out, but mention either Roy or Mewtwo and you'll get a different response. I'd like to see which people like best. --174.59.4.202 15:18, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. These guys are the most popular removed characters. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:30, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Mewtwo was not "replaced" by Lucario, and they are far from being similar. The same can be said about Roy and Ike. Omega Tyrant 10:49, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Meh, Nah ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. "Well, both of them are loved at the same time by lots of people, so they won't know who to vote for." says my system. So I oppose. Per all. --107.5.57.137 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. What OT said. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:41, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Maybe it's just me, but I think a five way battle between Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Roy, Pichu and Young Link would be a more interesting idea. Also, what Omega said. ReiDemon 11:00, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

You know something? You're both right. I'm kinda dumbfounded now. Oh well. Squishyfrog Chat 11:03, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Are you allowed to suggest fights with multiple combatants? If you can, suggest that. I'd vote for it. --174.59.4.202 22:51, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

I think Toomai comes up with those, and uses them only for special occasions. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 22:57, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

I suggested such a fight last time suggestions were open. I was disappointed that it didn't make it as #100. Maybe it'll be used in late November to commemorate the 10th anniversary of Melee's release? Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

All-Star Rest Area (Melee) vs. All-Star Rest Area (Brawl)

In both Melee and Brawl, the All-Star Mode is one of the longest and most arduous fights one can take. Nintendo, however, was generous enough to allow one to rest between battles, in areas far away from harm. But which areas provides the best sense of safety and rest to the player? Melee's incarnation or Brawl's incarnation? ReiDemon 11:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Interesting idea, and both have their own atmosphere. Omega Tyrant 11:51, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. yah. ..... lolz Airbore 13:49, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. :) Per all. --107.5.57.137 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. I support this - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 19:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
5. Mr. Anon (talk) 14:06, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. They're really way too similar to merit a fight, IMO. >_> Squishyfrog Chat 11:29, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Um, what? ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. They're just stupid places where you do nothing. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:41, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Far too similar. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Pokemon Stadium vs. Pokemon Stadium 2

The original vs the successor. 66.222.171.225 12:14, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. This hasn't been done yet?!?!? O_O ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 12:24, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. At first, I was like, "Stupid IP, this has been done before." But then I was like, "Oh WTF, this hasn't been done before?!". ReiDemon 12:29, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Holy cheese this needs to be done. Squishyfrog Chat 12:34, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. yah. ..... lolz Airbore 13:59, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
5. 1337!--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 14:44, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
6. This needs to be done. --174.59.4.202 15:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
7. YESH! This needs to be done! --107.5.57.137 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
8. I suggested this before but it was opposed a lot. So, yeah. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:41, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
9. Heck yes.-Ivy73 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
10. Per Dr. Pain. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. They aren't really different. Blindcolours Game Boy 18:00, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Sandbag vs. Home Run Bat

In the same vein as Mario vs. Wario. Who will win, the punching bag or the weapon that hits it? --174.59.4.202 15:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Interesting, the smacker or the one who gets smacked. Huh. Squishyfrog Chat 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Victim vs. Assaulter. How original. --107.5.57.137 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. the hitter vs. the hit. ..... lolz Airbore 16:07, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. :O ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 16:31, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
5. Will be a fun battle. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:41, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
6. Heck yesh ^Smiddle 君怒る? 13:15, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
7. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
8. FINALLY. HavocReaper 23:18, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Kinda imbalanced. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:24, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Eruption vs. Flare Blade

The Standard Special Moves of Two Fire Emblem Characters that use fire. One is from Brawl, the other is from Melee. Which packs more explosive punch? ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 17:51, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Blindcolours Game Boy 17:59, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Both are their games' only non-final smash OHKO that is not through countering or absorbing. Mr. Anon (talk) 18:00, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Yes. Squishyfrog Chat 19:38, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. I'm not really a Fire Emblem fan myself, but this is interesting. --107.5.57.137 20:18, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
5. ..... lolz Airbore 22:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
6. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:54, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
7. It could work.-Ivy73 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
8. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

WarioWare Inc. vs Pictochat

The two stages that change and morph to either help or hurt players. - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 19:04, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. I actually like this one. The two stages have good obstacles that you can either use to your advantage or they can bite you in the butt. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 20:18, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. We did Icicle Mountain vs whatever that donkey kong stage that scrolls up in Brawl was called because they both move. Why not these because they both morph? --174.59.4.202 22:56, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. I like it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:54, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. No similarities whatsoever. --107.5.57.137 19:30, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Rather different in pretty much every way yeah. Squishyfrog Chat 19:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. ..... lolz Airbore 22:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Not very similar. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Bowser vs Donkey Kong

Both are rivals of Mario, and have each been the heaviest character of a Smash game. However, one fights for good, while the other is evil. Both were made more "realistic" for Brawl, with Bowser given dinosaur-like roars and Donkey Kong given gorilla-like shouts. Both have an up special that involves spinning around. What else? Oh, both have an unsettled relationship in Subspace Emmisary (they were prepared to fight, but DK's protective instinct towards Diddy interfered). Mr. Anon (talk) 20:39, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. I can see it now. The King Kong vs. Godzilla battle, unfolded in the Arena. --107.5.57.137 20:42, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
2. What 107.5.57.137 said. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 20:45, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Turtle versus Gorilla? I like. Squishyfrog Chat 20:57, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
4. ..... lolz Airbore 22:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
5. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:54, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
6. King Kong vs Godzilla = win. --174.59.4.202 13:32, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
7. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

Uhh...there's no neutral in suggestions. --107.5.57.137 20:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Although commenting neutral in a policy discussion is useful as it provides some more information to go off of when final decisions are made, voting neutral is quite useless here as it won't influence the final result which is what I believe to be a simple vote count. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 22:27, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

No, it's not a simple vote count. Toomai Glittershine The Steppin' 23:14, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Even though it's not, there is still no reason to have a neutral. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 23:15, 20 August 2011 (EDT)

Why don't we just remove that section? --107.5.57.137 07:02, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Mario vs Kirby

Thes two guys have something on their own related with the ssb series, such as their creators and their similarities on their own games and un fhe opening of ssb they are in a fight. They havelots of things to be fought and tjings in common. Mario as the mascot of Nintendo and Kirby as the one that have the biggest role, plus having the same creator of SB>_>Lucas-IV- OH MY PORK! 11:45, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. I'm surprised this hasn't been done already. Mr. Anon (talk) 12:52, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Why not? --174.59.4.202 13:32, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Very surprising, as they have been rivals since the first SSB.-Ivy73 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
4. The first battle of the SSE. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
5. Read my comment on Pokémon Stadium vs. Pokémon Stadium 2 ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 18:24, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
6. I am shocked and astounded that this has not been done yet. Squishyfrog Chat 21:57, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
7. APPROVAL Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 02:28, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
8. I could have sworn it was done before. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:19, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Comment

Done before? Rly? Which fight? Ó.ò >_>Lucas-IV- OH MY PORK! 12:16, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure it was one of the early fights. You should check the archives. But I do know for a fact that it has been done before. Maybe you can propose this a bit later. Mr. Anon (talk) 12:34, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

i check thrice before I suggest,.and now I check ot again... Nope I dont think so>_>Lucas-IV- OH MY PORK! 12:36, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Oh wow, you are correct. Mr. Anon (talk) 12:51, 21 August 2011 (EDT)