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:::::::::The above comment was me telling you why you should avoid blindly following and enforcing every rule, especially if you're unable to provide justification for the rule, which is why I posted here and not there. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:09, 29 May 2011 (EDT) | :::::::::The above comment was me telling you why you should avoid blindly following and enforcing every rule, especially if you're unable to provide justification for the rule, which is why I posted here and not there. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:09, 29 May 2011 (EDT) | ||
::::::::::Let's stop bombarding this guy's talk page already. If you really need to talk to me about that, go to IRC. [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="red">'''Doc'''</font>]][[User Talk: Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2400">'''tor'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="orange">'''Pain'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="yellow">'''99'''</font>]] [[file:DoctorPain99.png|19px]] 21:11, 29 May 2011 (EDT) | ::::::::::Let's stop bombarding this guy's talk page already. If you really need to talk to me about that, go to IRC. [[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="red">'''Doc'''</font>]][[User Talk: Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#ff2400">'''tor'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="orange">'''Pain'''</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="yellow">'''99'''</font>]] [[file:DoctorPain99.png|19px]] 21:11, 29 May 2011 (EDT) | ||
== Your edit(s) on the Suggestion == | |||
Read the rules. One suggestion for one user every one week. I think you should delete one [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 07:05, 20 August 2011 (EDT) | |||
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Dude, no.
Your vote does not go in the half vote section. Please read the Smash Arena Rules. DoctorPain99 
20:01, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- I believe the half vote rule applies if someone purposely filled in their vote incorrectly to be a half vote. Casting your vote as a half vote while doing the voting procedure correctly is acceptable I believe. Omega Tyrant
20:06, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- No it isn't. Read rule 10. DoctorPain99
20:07, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- Read what I said. The rule is there so someone doesn't intentionally put their votes in half votes thinking doing so they won't have to sign their votes or something. I see absolutely nothing wrong with putting a vote in the half votes as long as you vote properly. It's their vote, they can put it in half votes if they want their vote to count as a half vote (such as in an instance where they don't feel too strongly about either side). Omega Tyrant 20:19, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- Do not tell me to read what you said when you obviously did not read the rule carefully enough. It specifically says, "nor is it acceptable to want your vote to be worth half", meaning you cannot put your votes in the half vote section just because you want your vote to count as half. Also, it's Toomai's decision, not yours (or mine). DoctorPain99 20:23, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- Familiar with the term "spirit of the rule"? The rule's intention is to prevent people from intentionally voting improperly by putting their votes in half votes, not to prevent those who feel their vote should be an half vote from voting as such. And why should people be forbidden to put their votes in half votes if they vote correctly? What harm does it do? Simply saying "the rule says so" does not answer that. Omega Tyrant 20:27, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- No it isn't, it does not in any way say "Do not intentionally break a rule to get a vote in the half-vote section" it says "Do not put your vote in the half vote section." Period, no exceptions. Also, if you would like the rule to be changed ask the man himself and don't get into a pointless dispute with another user about it. DoctorPain99 20:33, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- As Emmett once said "One thing that I think I accidentally beat into the culture of SmashWiki is the ideas that policies are laws that form the backbone that must always be followed or else. This is not the case at all. Wikis are based on discussion and consensus, and blindly following rules (sometimes even to the point of harming the wiki just to be "by the book") is stupid."
- No it isn't, it does not in any way say "Do not intentionally break a rule to get a vote in the half-vote section" it says "Do not put your vote in the half vote section." Period, no exceptions. Also, if you would like the rule to be changed ask the man himself and don't get into a pointless dispute with another user about it. DoctorPain99
- Familiar with the term "spirit of the rule"? The rule's intention is to prevent people from intentionally voting improperly by putting their votes in half votes, not to prevent those who feel their vote should be an half vote from voting as such. And why should people be forbidden to put their votes in half votes if they vote correctly? What harm does it do? Simply saying "the rule says so" does not answer that. Omega Tyrant
- Do not tell me to read what you said when you obviously did not read the rule carefully enough. It specifically says, "nor is it acceptable to want your vote to be worth half", meaning you cannot put your votes in the half vote section just because you want your vote to count as half. Also, it's Toomai's decision, not yours (or mine). DoctorPain99
- Read what I said. The rule is there so someone doesn't intentionally put their votes in half votes thinking doing so they won't have to sign their votes or something. I see absolutely nothing wrong with putting a vote in the half votes as long as you vote properly. It's their vote, they can put it in half votes if they want their vote to count as a half vote (such as in an instance where they don't feel too strongly about either side). Omega Tyrant
- No it isn't. Read rule 10. DoctorPain99
- I believe you are doing this right now, as your sole reasoning for enforcing the exact lettering of this rule is "Toomai said so" which itself does not refute anything I said. I already brought this up on the Smash Arena page, but keep what Emmett said in mind, and when someone questions your enforcement of a rule, provide more than "X says so". Omega Tyrant 20:53, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- My position is here. Move any additional comments there. DoctorPain99 20:55, 29 May 2011 (EDT)
- My position is here. Move any additional comments there. DoctorPain99
- I believe you are doing this right now, as your sole reasoning for enforcing the exact lettering of this rule is "Toomai said so" which itself does not refute anything I said. I already brought this up on the Smash Arena page, but keep what Emmett said in mind, and when someone questions your enforcement of a rule, provide more than "X says so". Omega Tyrant
Your edit(s) on the Suggestion
Read the rules. One suggestion for one user every one week. I think you should delete one Kirbythe 
Amazing Know my power! 07:05, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
