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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, just vote if you are a total fanboy of the character. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

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Round 75 Three-Quarter Fiver

Mario vs. Wario

File:Mario.jpg		Winner!! undecided 0 to 0		File:Wario.jpg
We start the quintuple-header with a fight that needs no introduction. So there won't be one! Will the "M" or "W" win?
Votes for Mario He doesn't smell his own farts...right?-Ivy73 23:25, 25 February 2011 (EST) I don't like them both much, but i hate Wario more then Mario. --77.255.127.96 01:34, 26 February 2011 (EST) I can control him better than Wario 206.53.152.108 02:40, 26 February 2011 (EST) I love Fireballs and Super Jump Punch!Kirbythe Amazing 03:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) The famous plumber FTW! Zero (talk) 03:31, 26 February 2011 (EST) Never really liked Wario, and while I may be better with Wario, I enjoy playing Mario more. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) Meh, never liked Wario. Mario is okay I guess, but if I had to choose, I'd say M>W. --24.11.24.139 07:00, 26 February 2011 (EST) Mario is a teritary and in my Top 10. Wario is among my worsts in Brawl. Plus, i always liked playing Mario than any other character in the Mario series (the second being Luigi). Zeldasmash (talk) 07:52, 26 February 2011 (EST) I don't like to play Mario very much, but Wario is disgusting. T.c.w7468 10:08, 26 February 2011 (EST) Mario's better as a character. --204.191.140.144 11:37, 26 February 2011 (EST) Mario is a real hero. Wario fails as a "villain" [he's not even that, he's an anti-hero]. The White Blur, The Whitest Thing Alive' Plumbers ftw--Burgundy (talk) 18:37, 26 February 2011 (EST) One thing Mario will always have over Wario? SHOOORYUKEN! HavocReaper 20:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) good creams evil, and Wario is Mario's evil clone--Peach67809 (talk) 21:09, 26 February 2011 (EST) Oh... Wario wants to be as great as mario? so it will not happen 'cause I vote to Mario, but Luigi is better, Watch the power of negative zone--89.139.218.26 07:45, 27 February 2011 (EST) Wario is overrated, both in Smash and outside it. Mr. Anon (talk) 13:26, 27 February 2011 (EST) Voting for my brother. Luigi133 (talk) 13:48, 27 February 2011 (EST) Duh? Mario? How could you not vote for him?! Critical Hit, and... KO! 07:43, 28 February 2011 (EST) Mario is better. --199.185.67.18 13:23, 28 February 2011 (EST) mario aint fat,hes chubby,warios the fat one,but thats irrelevant,marios teeth dont stick out constantly like some creepy doll and he saves his flatulence for private spaces like the rest of us76.108.196.106 00:10, 1 March 2011 (EST) Mario is awesomer coz i like red Wario is a fatty fatty.Tjahyadi (talk) 02:23, 1 March 2011 (EST) Do I even need to say it? I will anyways: MARIO FTW, WARIO FTB! --92.28.202.37 03:41, 1 March 2011 (EST) I LOVE FIREBALLS!SirEpp (talk) 06:36, 2 March 2011 (EST) Half-Votes Mario will never lose to that greedy pig Wario! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.204.228.18 (talk • contribs) 9:28, March 1, 2011			Votes for Wario I hate Mario more than Wario. MegaTron1XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) Wario's garlic says it all. Floor2000x (talk) 23:00, 25 February 2011 (EST) Fat says that he is top tier like Meta Knight is fat too. ..... (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2011 (EST) I'm great with Wario. As simple as that. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) Way more interesting character. 110.174.90.69 08:37, 26 February 2011 (EST) Time for Wario to break out his WIND ROCKETS! Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 09:16, 26 February 2011 (EST) Since I voted, Wario's gonna lose..... Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 09:44, 26 February 2011 (EST) Mario's cool with me, but I'm rooting for Wario here. The Fatal Wind hits for extreme damage. This reminds me of a bear who can fart on his opponents to KO them immediately...98.242.123.228 11:58, 26 February 2011 (EST) Waaaay higher tier.198.166.220.113 12:41, 26 February 2011 (EST) Mario is only number 31 on the SSBB tier list. Wario is 5th. 'Nuff said. HTK, and you have just been knocked off the stage (talk) 14:54, 26 February 2011 (EST) He eats garlic man! That's hardcore :PVincent Tran Blorbs? 15:02, 26 February 2011 (EST) Killer farts own fireballz anyday! TheBioShadow (talk) 17:02, 26 February 2011 (EST) I like Wario better in Brawl, better in most games, and I like his games better than Mario's. Doc King (talk) 16:45, 27 February 2011 (EST) it's a fatman. scibbididt yobabbop Jt45fan (talk) 09:37, 28 February 2011 (EST) Whassa matta you stupid-a goomba-face, I KEEL YOU WITH-A MA NOSE LordNock (the guy with the pie) (talk) 16:18, 1 March 2011 (EST) Half-Votes Wario has 12 different costumes. SWEEEEET!- i dont have an account —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 26 February, 2011 Mario is too famous and I vote for Wario.No UserName —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.60.88.64 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 27 February 2011 (EST)
Comments This should clear some stuff out from that line. ..... (talk) 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) Megatron1, Floor2000 and I were the first ones to vote. ..... (talk) 23:10, 25 February 2011 (EST) Can we please have less of these kinds of comments? The page is kind of big enough as it is. Toomai Glittershine The Emissary 23:12, 25 February 2011 (EST) Sorry. ..... (talk) 23:14, 25 February 2011 (EST) Yeah. I think this match is going to be my first lost. ..... (talk) 08:48, 26 February 2011 (EST) Or what if I lose all of these matches. ..... (talk) 08:56, 26 February 2011 (EST) Guys, check the recent changes for today. You'll be surprised by what you see. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 11:03, 26 February 2011 (EST) Comments like this are unncessary. T_T MegaTron1XD 11:35, 26 February 2011 (EST) LOL. Someone said I don't have an account and did not sign their vote. ..... (talk) 13:36, 26 February 2011 (EST) Um, did someone knew if Mario Finale racks some damage or just push your opponent?Kirbythe Amazing 02:02, 27 February 2011 (EST) Some votes are simply because of their tier position. Are those votes supposed to be valid? Zeldasmash (talk) 12:02, 27 February 2011 (EST) Well, this is a popularity contest. People can vote because of any reason they want. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 16:36, 27 February 2011 (EST) Maybe some people dislike tiers and chooses Mario. It's been a long time since Mario won anyway. I believe the last win round for him was the very first one. ..... (talk) 17:24, 28 February 2011 (EST) mario has better games but warios farting is just hilarious~= BigBlue321—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 2:59, March 1, 2011 Enough with the comments -_-. MegaTron1XD 18:31, 1 March 2011 (EST)

Luigi vs. Diddy Kong

File:Luigi.jpg		Winner!! undecided 0 to 0		File:Diddy.jpg
Next up is a pair of second bananas, both more agile and less conventional than their more well-known counterparts. Both originating as palette swaps before being distinctified in later games, which of the two has it here?
Votes for Luigi YEAH! Epic Down Taunt! Floor2000x (talk) 23:00, 25 February 2011 (EST) SHORYUKEN!-Ivy73 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST) I prefer playing with him. --77.255.127.96 01:41, 26 February 2011 (EST) Green > Red Kirbythe Amazing 03:16, 26 February 2011 (EST) Similar to my previous vote, I never really liked Diddy Kong, and while I'm more competent with Diddy, I'm a fan of Luigi, who I also enjoy playing more as well. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) One of the closest characters of my choice to being a secondary. Plus, Luigi can kick Diddy's ass.....pretty badly. Zeldasmash (talk) 07:50, 26 February 2011 (EST) SPAGETTI! Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 09:45, 26 February 2011 (EST) Currently my tenth main, but Luigi's going to move up my list. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 11:06, 26 February 2011 (EST) Weegee needs more love. --204.191.140.144 11:38, 26 February 2011 (EST) I just love to do his Jump Punch to finish off foes! Hooray for the Fiery Godfist! 98.242.123.228 11:54, 26 February 2011 (EST) Well Luigi is my fourth favorite Nintendo character, so I change that vote. ..... (talk) 13:46, 26 February 2011 (EST) Negative Zone=EPIC! Toon Shiek-Out! (talk) 14:20, 26 February 2011 (EST) I don't even need to say thing.Vincent Tran Blorbs? 15:09, 26 February 2011 (EST) 2 words: Go WeeGee! TheBioShadow (talk) 17:03, 26 February 2011 (EST) Luigi's Final Smash is much better, and he's green [not green-skinned, I mean he wears green clothing]. The White Blur, The Whitest Thing Alive' I was gonna pick Diddy, but I saw Weegie staring at me from outside my window...--Burgundy (talk) 18:34, 26 February 2011 (EST) luigi is a sidekick like diddy, but luigi is a human and humans are easy to play--Peach67809 (talk) 21:12, 26 February 2011 (EST) OH YEAH LUIGI IS THE GREATEST OF THEM ALL (with Lucario) SO DIDDY KONG, SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR TAIL. YA-HA! WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE!--89.139.218.26 07:48, 27 February 2011 (EST) Luigi is better to play as than diddy, Luigi is very strong and, two more things, GO WEEGEE, SUPER FIRE JUMP PUNCHZ (talk) 11:09, 27 February 2011 (EST) Luigi! Mr. Anon (talk) 13:25, 27 February 2011 (EST) Weegie da best! Luigi133 (talk) 13:49, 27 February 2011 (EST) Luigi is so much better than anyone else that even his taunts (or at least one taunt) can KO someone! All his special moves are awesome, and gets his head stuck to the wall when he uses Green Missile! (Plus, he is a very nice shade of green) Critical Hit, and... KO! 07:57, 28 February 2011 (EST) it's Weegee time. HADOUKEN. Jt45fan (talk) 09:36, 28 February 2011 (EST) Diddy Kong was better than Luigi in DK64, but he ain't great any longer! Why did they even let Diddy into Brawl in the first place? Who cares? GO WEEGEE!!! 92.28.202.37 03:44, 1 March 2011 (EST) GO WEEGEE LordNock (the guy with the pie) (talk) 16:14, 1 March 2011 (EST) Half-Votes Weegee has better moves and more experience.- i dont have an account—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 26 February, 2011 Luigi's not afraid to nab ghosts with a vacuum, for crying out loud! Besides, I hate monkeys.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.204.228.18 (talk • contribs) 9:31, March 1, 2011 luigis ten times better and stronger plus hes Nintendos mascots BROTHER~= BigBlue321—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 2:59, March 1, 2011			Votes for Diddy Kong I barely like Luigi. Diddy is just epic item spam. MegaTron1XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) PEANUTS!206.53.152.106 02:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) I hate Luigi in this game, or at least I hate to play agaisnt him and I prefer Diddy´s bananas. Zero (talk) 03:31, 26 February 2011 (EST) I just hate Luigi and his stupid drug-induced final smash. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) Monkey with peanut popguns and rocketbarrels > Secondary brother. 110.174.90.69 08:36, 26 February 2011 (EST) Peanut Gun. It only takes that to beat luigi. HTK, and you have just been knocked off the stage (talk) 19:08, 26 February 2011 (EST) He's back again and about time too, And this time he's in the mood, He can fly real high with his jetpack on, With his pistols out, he's one tough Kong! HavocReaper 20:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) I like Diddy way better than Luigi and is like one of the few characters who can actually combo easily in Brawl and I like him better than Luigi in other games usually (Although I like Luigi too). The whole weegee thing is overrated and is getting old and annoying. Doc King (talk) 16:45, 27 February 2011 (EST) I must vote for Diddy, he's one of my characters. I do like Luigi, but he's not as good as Diddy Kong. --86.159.220.238 07:09, 28 February 2011 (EST) Monkeys --199.185.67.18 13:22, 28 February 2011 (EST) has great grabs and an overall smooth fighting style....but i really just dislike luigis sliding effect,such a hassle76.108.196.106 00:06, 1 March 2011 (EST) I am going to vote forthe onlyperson who actually has a gunSirEpp (talk) 06:40, 2 March 2011 (EST)
Comments This is what I call an exciting battle! Kirbythe Amazing 03:55, 26 February 2011 (EST) I like both characters but can't decide who to vote for! --24.11.24.139 06:56, 26 February 2011 (EST) Yeah kinda same here for me too. ..... (talk) 08:55, 26 February 2011 (EST) A member of the DK Crew is worthy of any vote. Especially if you quote the DK Rap while you vote. HavocReaper 20:49, 26 February 2011 (EST) Is the second banana for Luigi from Snake's codec? Kirbythe Amazing 01:06, 27 February 2011 (EST) Yes, I beleive that it is. Critical Hit, and... KO! 10:09, 1 March 2011 (EST)

Bumper vs. Flipper

		Winner!! undecided 0 to 0
Two items designed to whack anyone that gets in range once set, with the main difference being that the Flipper bonks you multiple times while the Bumper gives you a healthy (though non-damaging) punt. They've never co-existed, so which one has the fan approval?
Votes for Bumper Can get KOs much easier. MegaTron1XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) Well it has higher knockback and owns. ..... (talk) 23:06, 25 February 2011 (EST) The Flippers are just annoying.-Ivy73 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST) Because they are useful at Multi Man Brawl. --77.255.127.96 01:42, 26 February 2011 (EST) One day when I played stock brawl, this thing saves my live when I throw it to my enemy206.53.152.101 02:49, 26 February 2011 (EST) Bumpers sometimes help me... Kirbythe Amazing 03:18, 26 February 2011 (EST) Bumper fail...but good to KO. Zero (talk) 03:30, 26 February 2011 (EST) One hit on a bumper can be all it takes to kill you. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) No other item can do up to 999% damage on N64 version in one throw. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:35, 26 February 2011 (EST) Way more deadly. 110.174.90.69 08:35, 26 February 2011 (EST) There are two things I like: smash throwing these little things and pinball. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 11:09, 26 February 2011 (EST) Bumpers, in Brawl at least, are better at scoring KO's and can be set in midair. You can't get this in SSB64. 98.242.123.228 11:51, 26 February 2011 (EST) They appear in more games. Toon Shiek-Out! (talk) 14:23, 26 February 2011 (EST) err, lol? Vincent Tran Blorbs? 15:10, 26 February 2011 (EST) Has a huge (and very annoying) knockback, really fn though. TheBioShadow (talk) 17:04, 26 February 2011 (EST) Flippers rack up damage, Bumpers immediatley KO. Clear choice here. The White Blur, The Whitest Thing Alive' Easy to kill people with. Put it next to someone on the edge of the stage and they will get knocked off HTK, and you have just been knocked off the stage (talk) 19:22, 26 February 2011 (EST) I once had a pretty epic moment with the Bumper in the 2 minute online matches. Flipper, meh. HavocReaper 20:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) the bumper doesn't take damage but that is kinda good cause if you hit it you wont take damage--Peach67809 (talk) 21:16, 26 February 2011 (EST) What a flipper is? I play only Brawl... Bumper helps Knocking out enemies... and that thing with negative zone and aura storm... :) --89.139.218.26 07:54, 27 February 2011 (EST) The bumper has appeared in more games. Mr. Anon (talk) 13:24, 27 February 2011 (EST) The Bumper is AWESOME!!!!! (don't touch it, or you will be KOed) Critical Hit, and... KO! 10:52, 28 February 2011 (EST) I LIKE BUM-PERS AND I CANNOT LIE! Sorry Flipper, you're just not OHK enough! 92.28.202.37 03:45, 1 March 2011 (EST) this was the originalSirEpp (talk) 06:41, 2 March 2011 (EST) Half-Votes This decision is completely random: Bumper. i agree with Megatron1~= BigBlue321—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 2:59, March 1, 2011			Votes for Flipper These were so annoying to me in Melee, slowly kills you while teh bumper is a 0hko. Floor2000x (talk) 23:01, 25 February 2011 (EST) Flippers aren't as disruptive, and in Melee, the Flipper could be used to get a large amount of points on the first stage in Adventure mode when you fight the Yoshis. 2500 points for each Yoshi KO'd by it, and the KOs stack together for double, triple, etc. KOs. So if you were to KO 5 Yoshis with it, you would get 12,500 points from Flipper KOs, and an additional 15,000 points for Quintuple KO, giving a total of 27,500 points. You can't do that with the Bumper in Brawl. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) It has a cooler name... Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 09:46, 26 February 2011 (EST) These things are less annoying than the bumpers. --204.191.140.144 11:39, 26 February 2011 (EST) Inny Minny Miney Mo... This one won.--Burgundy (talk) 18:32, 26 February 2011 (EST) Isn't so cheap as the bumper and doesn't KO at low percentages. Also you can combo with the flipper. Doc King (talk) 16:45, 27 February 2011 (EST) Flippers FTW --199.185.67.18 13:19, 28 February 2011 (EST)
Comments sigh* Another crazy ratio battle... Kirbythe Amazing 04:06, 26 February 2011 (EST) Haven't I already told you to stop complaining constantly about matchups where the voters results don't appear close? Toomai already told ..... to stop making comments such as these that add nothing and are just making an already overly page bigger, and this applies to your "crazy ratio" complaints as well. Omega Tyrant 05:18, 26 February 2011 (EST) Hmm... this got me thinking... what would happen if you could set a bumper and a flipper at the same place, and then set one of them off? The bumper would hit the flipper and the flipper would hit the bumper........ Hmm... Fuddlebob (talk) 05:41, 26 February 2011 (EST) Orange Tyrant, about your comment, you can't earn points for ANYTHING in Brawl. --24.11.24.139 07:02, 26 February 2011 (EST) I don't recall myself being orange, and please refer to rule 7 of the Smash Arena. But regardless, your claim against me is false anyway. You do indeed earn bonus points for clearing Classic or All Star in Brawl based on difficulty, and can even earn an insignificant 10,000 point bonus for clearing with no stock loss. Omega Tyrant 08:32, 26 February 2011 (EST) Hmmmm... I wanted to try if a Bumper can be used for recovery by throw it near the blast line and hit it when I dropped, but my Wii is under repair! Did someone knows the result?Kirbythe Amazing 01:22, 27 February 2011 (EST) I didn't actually test this yet, but I think characters can only bounce to the side or downwards, even when you hit a bumper from the top. So, you can only use a bumper for horizontal recovery and not vertical. Hope this clears things up. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 09:18, 27 February 2011 (EST)

Link vs. Marth

		Winner!! undecided 0 to 0		File:Marth.jpg
While Link is certainly less one-dimensional than Marth's sword-only fighting style, the blue-haired one has finesse that the Hero of Time/Hyrule/Twilight/etc may not be able to match. Which ends up being the victor?
Votes for Link Tough choice, but Link is much more epic then Marth. Zero (talk) 03:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) Master sword > Falchion. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:36, 26 February 2011 (EST) I will always prefer this guy more than Marth. He is cooler, he is more epic and he is more bad-ass. And also, he is my main. Zeldasmash (talk) 07:44, 26 February 2011 (EST) Link has saved the world on numerous occasions and is simply a far more awesome character. I don't like Marth at all. 110.174.90.69 08:34, 26 February 2011 (EST) While I'm better with MARTH, I love Link's games WAY more.Vincent Tran Blorbs? 15:12, 26 February 2011 (EST) Lol I never had even heard of Fire Emblem until Melee and besides links the original Nintendo tall knight in shineing armour. TheBioShadow (talk) 17:06, 26 February 2011 (EST) When I got SSBB, I saw Marth, and I was like "who?". He was from a series i'd never heard of. Also, was Marth the main hero of one of the best games of all time? I dont think so.HTK, and you have just been knocked off the stage (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2011 (EST) marth... who is marth?... whoever he is, Link is stronger and... kokirier. marth is just a prince from a game that I never heard anything about it. s owhat if link is not a royal something. he knows a princess. And i play the legend of zelda: ocarina of time & majora's mask. go Link! Go the green hylian who thought he is a kokiri and always saves zelda! --89.139.218.26 08:21, 27 February 2011 (EST) Link is cooler. Mr. Anon (talk) 13:23, 27 February 2011 (EST) I like Link better because of his amazing campness and claw. Doc King (talk) 16:45, 27 February 2011 (EST) you can't counter a bomb Jt45fan (talk) 09:33, 28 February 2011 (EST) Keep on voting for Link, or Link is gonna lose! LINK OVER MARTH NO MATTER WHAT! 92.28.202.37 03:48, 1 March 2011 (EST) Half-Votes His recovery kills the other half of the vote. --199.185.67.18 13:19, 28 February 2011 (EST) o what if nobody tells link anything, link is strong and marth, *snickers* hes a wussy prince~= BigBlue321—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 2:59, March 1, 2011 Can Marth stop an arrow, a bomb, and a sword at the same time? I thought so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.204.228.18 (talk • contribs) 9:37, March 1, 2011			Votes for Marth I'm a Fire Emblem fan at heart. MegaTron1XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) I've always used marth instead of link in the games. Floor2000x (talk) 23:02, 25 February 2011 (EST) Dude, Marth is the king of Melee and Brawl. ..... (talk) 23:05, 25 February 2011 (EST) Tough pick, but I gotta say recovery is slightly better, plus he has better combos.-Ivy73 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST) I'm better in all ways with Marth. --77.255.127.96 01:50, 26 February 2011 (EST) Dolphin Slash is my favourite move!206.53.152.106 02:56, 26 February 2011 (EST) I just like Marth betterKirbythe Amazing 03:24, 26 February 2011 (EST) Link sucks bad in Brawl. Marth is much better. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) While he may be a dropped secondary now, he was in my early Brawl days my best character, while Link has always been among my worst. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) I'm doing this because I want to... Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 09:46, 26 February 2011 (EST) Marth's moveset is pretty awesome, and Link honestly kind of sucks. T.c.w7468 10:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) I can't think of something witty to say for this, so I'll just say I like Marth better.Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 11:19, 26 February 2011 (EST) Marth pwns --204.191.140.144 11:41, 26 February 2011 (EST) I'm voting for Marth 'cause I despise Link so much I just pound him heartlessly and the other LoZ characters (which is the only reason I play Smash Bros.) 98.242.123.228 11:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) I don't get why they always made Link such a crappy character in Smash, but Marth is the better fighter, even though I don't own Brawl.198.166.220.113 12:55, 26 February 2011 (EST) . I main Marth. Toon Shiek-Out! (talk) 14:24, 26 February 2011 (EST) Marth's faster, and has the best recovery/moves. Link, on the other hand, is the polar opposite. The White Blur, The Whitest Thing Alive' Tough choice, but I think Marth screaming "Twaah!" brings him to the top--Burgundy (talk) 18:28, 26 February 2011 (EST) Marf was given a recovery. HavocReaper 20:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) Marth is the best of the best of the best of the best of the... etc. Anyway, all his special moves, all his tilts , some of his smashes, and some of his aeriels are awesome, and his final smash is the best, period. Just look at my signature! Critical Hit, and... KO! 10:52, 28 February 2011 (EST) i think link is way underated,much harder to use,yes,but many more options than the one dimensional marth,marth is without a doubt one of the most overated characters but i cant deny....hes just funner to play as76.108.196.106 00:01, 1 March 2011 (EST) Half-Votes ALL Fire Emblem characters rule. But Marth is my All time favorite by far.- i dont have an account—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 26 February, 2011 marth is cool, even though he is from a japan only game i think--Peach67809 (talk) 21:20, 26 February 2011 (EST)
Comments I guess this five-way battle was to make things more interesting or is it to use up most of the suggestions? --204.191.140.144 11:44, 26 February 2011 (EST) It's somewhat of a tradition that every 25th round has five fights, though using up a month's worth of the backlog is always good too. Toomai Glittershine The Golden 12:33, 26 February 2011 (EST) Ok I see --204.191.140.144 13:52, 26 February 2011 (EST) So, that means we need to wait for almost half a year for a battle like this again?Kirbythe Amazing 01:38, 27 February 2011 (EST) I am a fan of the Legend of Zelda series, but since this is Smash, I voted Marth.198.166.220.113 17:49, 27 February 2011 (EST)

Squirtle vs. Ivysaur vs. Charizard

File:Squirtlessbb.png		File:BrawlIvysaur.png		File:Charizard.png
Winner!! undecided 0 to 0
The last battle in this five-pack is a three-way between Pokémon Trainer's three Pokémon. Like other multi-way fights, this won't count in the statistics. Will it be the representative of water, grass, or fire that wins?
Votes for Squirtle Squirtle! MegaTron1XD 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST) Squirtle is the best! --77.255.127.96 02:07, 26 February 2011 (EST) If it weren't for him, I would basically never use the Pokemon Trainer. Go Squirtle!!! <3 --24.11.24.139 06:58, 26 February 2011 (EST) First, let's take this from the Pokemon point of view. Squirtle's water type is super effective against and resists Charizard's fire type. Also, Ivysaur's grass type is super effective against Squirtle, but Water-type Pokemon usually learn Ice-type moves, which are super effective against Ivysaur. Next, let's take this from the Smash Bros. Point of view. Squirtle has good ground and air mobility, can wall cling, and has invincibility frames through Withdraw. Squirtle is the sole winner. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 11:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) Squirtle's cute =D --204.191.140.144 11:42, 26 February 2011 (EST) Pokemon's back! why Lucario isn't here? oh well... my bro say it faster than the others, he also chose squirtle as his starter in his leafgreen version... watch the power of negative zone--89.139.218.26 07:51, 27 February 2011 Squirtle is very easy to use, has better contol, and well, is very good fighter. Z (talk) 11:05, 27 February 2011 (EST) Squirtle is the best out of the Pokémon Trainer, and his forward special move is really cool!! Critical Hit, and... KO! 10:52, 28 February 2011 (EST) teenage mutant ninja squirtles,teenage mutant ninja squirtles,turtle power76.108.196.106 23:51, 28 February 2011 (EST)		Votes for Ivysaur Who do you think I'm gonna pick? -Ivy73 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST) My personal favourite out of the three, I just think he is better. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:37, 26 February 2011 (EST) DR. OCTAGONAPUS BLAAGH!! Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 09:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) I can use ivysaur well in brawl minus, so.Vincent Tran Blorbs? 15:14, 26 February 2011 (EST) He's green... Luigi133 (talk) 13:50, 27 February 2011 (EST) Ivysaur is the evolved verison of Bulbasaur, the first Pokemon. So I pick Ivysaur. --86.159.220.238 07:18, 28 February 2011 (EST) I like Ivy the most, however I don't like Ivy's playstyle. --199.185.67.18 12:45, 28 February 2011 (EST) Half-Votes I don't know why, but I just do better with Ivy than the other 2. I guess I just like his better comboing than the other two. Doc King (talk) 16:45, 27 February 2011 (EST) I'm sticking with Ivysaur because I love grass starters. Fire starters are simply too overated. Water starters too.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.204.228.18 (talk • contribs) 9:40, March 1, 2011		Votes for Charizard He's my favorite starter. Floor2000x (talk) 23:04, 25 February 2011 (EST) Beast dude. ..... (talk) 23:11, 25 February 2011 (EST) Flamethrower pwns206.53.152.108 03:00, 26 February 2011 (EST) My favorite pokémon. Zero (talk) 03:28, 26 February 2011 (EST) I BELIEVE I CAN FLY!Kirbythe Amazing 03:49, 26 February 2011 (EST) Yay! another of my suggestions is chosen. I like fire types better than water and grass therefore I go for my third favourite Pokemon. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST) If Charizard was a stand alone character and that worthless Pokemon Trainer gimmick didn't exist, I could of possibly mained him, or he would of at least became a secondary or tertiary character. Can't say the same for the other two. Omega Tyrant 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST) Here is the order i like about them. Charizard is beast, Squirtle is sort of cool and Ivysaur sucks (sorry Ivy). Charizard is stronger than those 2 and he is more cooler. Also i prefer the Charizard starter family than the other 2. Zeldasmash (talk) 07:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) Charizard is just an awesome pokemon. 110.174.90.69 08:32, 26 February 2011 (EST) I just love a Pokemon that can pack an amazing punch. Besides, P.T. is one of my main characters. 98.242.123.228 12:01, 26 February 2011 (EST) Without Charizard, where would PT be and what would be the reason to main him? The White Blur, The Whitest Thing Alive' Squirtles annoying and hard to hit and Ivy's a freaking spam attack monster with vinewip so i have to go with Charizard TheBioShadow (talk) 17:08, 26 February 2011 (EST) Roar--Burgundy (talk) 18:26, 26 February 2011 (EST) EPIC FULL EVOLUTION!!!! 19:28, 26 February 2011 (EST) A turtle vs. a toad with a plant vs a fire breathing dragon. Hmmmm. HavocReaper 20:47, 26 February 2011 (EST) Charizard is cool. Mr. Anon (talk) 13:23, 27 February 2011 (EST) he has Rock Smash Jt45fan (talk) 09:30, 28 February 2011 (EST) CHARIZARD IS PERFECT! NO OTHER POKEMON TRAINER CHARACTERS ARE PERFECT! 92.28.202.37 03:49, 1 March 2011 (EST) Half-Votes Charizard is cool cause he can breath FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREE!- i dont have an account —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 26 February, 2011 charizard is the only flying starter of all the games--Peach67809 (talk) 21:21, 26 February 2011 (EST) charizard is fully evolved and *sarcastic gasp* squirtle and ivysaur arent!~= BigBlue321—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 2:59, March 1, 2011
Comments Well the first vote for Ivysaur was obvious that he will vote for it. ..... (talk) 08:50, 26 February 2011 (EST) Like Toomai said, stop making all these unnecessary comments.-Ivy73 11:31, 26 February 2011 (EST) Um, is a 3 character in 1 battle is allowed?Kirbythe Amazing 01:28, 27 February 2011 (EST) Well I think so. ..... (talk) 09:16, 27 February 2011 (EST) Toomai makes the rules. There has been an 8 in one battle before. The results of this battle don't go towards the actual stats though. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:09, 27 February 2011 (EST) So practically he's the master of SA. ..... (talk) 17:20, 28 February 2011 (EST)

Round 74: Olimar vs. Pikmin

		Winner!! Pikmin File:Pikmin 080111b.jpg 13 to 24.5		File:Pikmin 080111b.jpg
Time for an unorthodox fight! This particular throwdown pits the general against his men, as it were. Is it the face of the army that gets the goods, or will it be the workers that get the props?
Votes for Olimar And just how well were Pikmin faring on their own before Olimar got them organized? Miles (talk) 22:02, 18 February 2011 (EST) They weren't exactly flourishing at the start of Pikmin 2. They so need Olimar.MegaTron1XD 22:07, 18 February 2011 (EST) Including the aforementioned comments above, there are a vast many (like, maybe over 40 :?) who use solimar.Vincent Tran Blorbs? 02:35, 19 February 2011 (EST) Just look at him! He is awesome! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:16, 19 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is useless without his pikmin, but pikmin are useless without olimar.. And also, he looks so epic! Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 10:27, 19 February 2011 (EST) Olimar can still fight without pikmin, plus there are two pikmin that aren't in Brawl LordNock (the guy with the pie) (talk) 13:49, 19 February 2011 (EST) Olimar controls the Pikmin. 'Nuff said. The White Blur, The Whitest Thing Alive' I love just running around as Olimar and punching random enemies on Pikmin. Made even more fun by the fact he gets rocket gloves in Pikmin 2. Fuddlebob (talk) 00:55, 20 February 2011 (EST) Even though Olimar is nothing without his Pikmin, his Pikmin without Olimar are even less! At least Olimar can do something by himself. Critical Hit, and... KO! 08:44, 22 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is a good character for me in brawl. The pikmin would just run around the stage screaming without him.24.30.130.49 14:41, 22 February 2011 (EST) In the best ending of Pikmin, Olimar inspires the Pikmin to work for themselves. The Pikmin 2 pikmin I think are in a different part of pikmin planet, but either way, Olimar is an average everyday guy, who just does stuff to feed his family. So there.Dhawk (talk) 14:13, 23 February 2011 (EST) Olimar can take a hit, unlike the Pikmin. Omega Tyrant 14:23, 23 February 2011 (EST) Olimar survived well without them, and he can take more hits than them. Also, most of his attacks dont need him. User:HTK(User talk:HTK) 20:18, 25 February 2011 (EST)			Votes for Pikmin "Come men! We must rebel against Hitler!"-Ivy73 21:09, 18 February 2011 (EST) Remember, there's strength in numbers! Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 21:19, 18 February 2011 (EST) The Pikmin pretty much make Olimar the character he is in Brawl now. Doc King (talk) 23:43, 18 February 2011 (EST) Olimar couldn't be that good playable characters without using his Pikmins. --178.37.127.133 01:55, 19 February 2011 (EST) Changed vote. I decided that pikmin are more powerful than Olimar and they are beast. ..... (talk) 02:01, 19 February 2011 (EST) Without the Pikmin Olimar would've died on the pikmin planet. 110.174.90.69 05:41, 19 February 2011 (EST) Purple Pikmin is just pure win. Zero (talk) 06:10, 19 February 2011 (EST) A Pikmin without leader don't know what to do, Olimar without Pikmin is USELESS Lucasthefourth Psychic Power 07:41, 19 February 2011 (EST) pikmin are so cute--Peach67809 (talk) 09:35, 19 February 2011 (EST) Your joking right? Without his Pikmin, Olmair is pathetic. Hevck, he doesn't even know how to punch or kick and probably couldn't with those arms! Pikmin are unstoppable army that spread fear throughout planets! TheBioShadow (talk) 10:48, 19 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is nothing without his pikmin --204.191.132.110 12:03, 19 February 2011 (EST) From a Smash perspective, these guys are awesome. In the Pikmin games, they suck. Luckily we're talking about this on a Smash related scope, so, Pikmin! HavocReaper 16:46, 19 February 2011 (EST) as the chinease one from snake said: they fight, they help, they multiply, and then they get eaten... how terrible, give some respect to those funny, weak, and edible things! of course, i never played Pikmin... but it's name seems a bit like pokemon... so... WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE!85.250.140.18 12:31, 20 February 2011 (EST) The Pikmin are the reason Olimar is even a character in this game.98.116.118.143 19:08, 20 February 2011 (EST) It's 5 on 1, kinda obvious who wins 75.32.32.229 13:45, 21 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is nothing without his Pikmin, but the Pikmin are nothing without Olimar. I'll vote for the real contender in smash.198.166.220.113 16:15, 21 February 2011 (EST) The series is called Pikmin, not Olimar. Burgundy (talk) 17:47, 21 February 2011 (EST) i like Pikmin!206.53.152.103 22:22, 22 February 2011 (EST) Well, this is 1 vs 5, right?Kirbythe Amazing 22:32, 22 February 2011 (EST) Pikmin are awesome, they are edible! Floor2000x (talk) 22:48, 22 February 2011 (EST) Olimar would be absolutely nothing without pikmin - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 07:00, 23 February 2011 (EST) Olimar is just useless without his valiant men. RedEgadd (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2011 (EST) Half Votes olimar is the weakest without his pikmins! go pikmins!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.204.199 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 19 February 2011 "Let's go! We must-- what- what are you doing? Get off! No! NO! NOOOOO!" Exactly.PKFire MetaKnight —Preceding unsigned comment added 08:35, February 19, 2011 (EST) Olimar is very weak- almost nothing- without these guys. (This is by Roxas13Nobody Olimar cant fight without the pikmin, so pikmin would kick his little hiney.—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 19 February 2011 Pikmins are vegtables, so you can eat them! yum! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.91.232 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 19 February 2011 (EST) PIKMIN ARE SO SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!! In brawl, when Olimar doesn't have Pikmin he stinks. He can't even use smash attacks. The point is is that Pikmin are the ones who actually brawl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 10:12, 24 February 2011 (EST)
Comments Can't decide but more better match. ..... (talk) 23:20, 18 February 2011 (EST) The pikmin were pretty much helpless before olimar, but olimar is hopeless without the pikmin... which one to choose...?Rising Dragon (talk) 06:36, 19 February 2011(EST) The both very weak... who are better? WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE! So they're useless without each other, true? this is like... Popo vs Nana... no wait, they're the same... *Sigh* I wish KirbytheAmazing could vote right now, he's on study trip to Bali... Lucasthefourth Psychic Power 05:01, 21 February 2011 (EST) I never looked closely at Olimar's hands before...Those gloves make his hands look mechanized. Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 11:32, 22 February 2011 (EST) Another crazy ratio match....... ..... (talk) 17:17, 22 February 2011 (EST) I tried to get a computer with internet connection, and I only see another we-already-know-the-winner battle? THIS IS MADNESS!Kirbythe Amazing 22:36, 22 February 2011 (EST) But this one actually came from suggestion, i remember someone suggest this... Lucasthefourth PK Thunder!! 09:23, 23 February 2011 (EST) Whoever made this suggestion... I will say this to him/her: "YOU'RE A JOKE!"Kirbythe Amazing 03:21, 24 February 2011 (EST) If the community likes a suggestion, it usually makes it in. Toomai Glittershine The Emissary 11:14, 24 February 2011 (EST) Remember that how good a matchup is is based on the amount of votes it generates from being interesting. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest involving voting, not actual fights, so stop complaining about these votes not being close. If you were to understand the basics of voting, you would see that landslide victories are much more common than close, nearly tied votes. I'll also like to add that Toomai nor the person making the suggestion has no foresight on how the vote will turn out, so demanding "close matchups" to be chosen is demanding something that cannot be done (not to mention that trying to choose "close matchups" only will cause the Smash Arena to lose out on interesting matchups with no real gain in return). So keep this all in mind the next time you complain about a vote not being close. Oh, and never insult Toomai nor the person who made the suggestion based on such a ridiculous basis they have no control over. Omega Tyrant 12:00, 24 February 2011 (EST) It is kind of hard to decide this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 24 February 2011 (EST) Remember to sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~. Omega Tyrant 15:16, 24 February 2011 (EST) I only can say, hello Friday! Kirbythe Amazing 04:35, 25 February 2011 (EST) I agree. And to think that when I saw this I thought it would actually be a bit closer than the last 3 or 4... my mistake. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:18, 25 February 2011 (EST) Well, the difference even get bigger! (Pikmin's score = 2 x Olimar's score) = Made me LOLKirbythe Amazing 12:30, 25 February 2011 (EST) I was playing today as Olimar, and one of the Red Pikmin was impaled by one of Link's arrows aand survived. The Pikmin can take a hit.Brawlingbrian LANDMASTER! 19:00, 25 February 2011 (EST) That's common knowledge. However, they can only take a few hits. Olimar is capable of taking much more. MegaTron1XD 19:01, 25 February 2011 (EST) Yeah, but pikmin are there to help Olimar do more damage. ..... (talk) 20:05, 25 February 2011 (EST) And Olimar only can use a 'really' few moves without Pikmins... Kirbythe Amazing 20:16, 25 February 2011 (EST) This guy named HTK (someone new) just voted. ..... (talk) 22:43, 25 February 2011 (EST)

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