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*[[Link (SSBB)|Link]] & [[Toon Link (SSBB)|Toon Link]]
*[[Link (SSBB)|Link]] & [[Toon Link (SSBB)|Toon Link]]
**Only a few somewhat different attacks. Most notably, Toon Link doesn't kick in his aerials, and Link has some attacks that peform more slashes than the same attack of Toon Link's. Toon Link's down aerial is also a [[Stall-Then-Fall]] aerial.
**The only differing moves are Up Smash, Neutral Aerial, Forward Aerial, Back Aerial and Back Throw. Also, Toon Link's Down Aerial is a Stall-then-fall-aerial and also spike. His Spin Attack and the first hit of his Forward Smash also trap opponents, unlike Link's.


===Non-playable===
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Most of the semi-clones have some of the same standard moves as the original, but they may have greatly different animations and hitboxes in attacks, and in movement (walking, jumping, etc.).
Most of the semi-clones have some of the same standard moves as the original, but they may have greatly different animations and hitboxes in attacks, and in movement (walking, jumping, etc.).
*[[Fox (SSBB)|Fox]] & [[Falco (SSBB)|Falco]]   
*[[Fox (SSBB)|Fox]] & [[Falco (SSBB)|Falco]]   
**Reflector works differently, but all other special moves are cloned. Some non-cloned moves include neutral air, forward air, and forward smash, among others. Falco's [[Back aerial]] is a [[sex kick]]. Also, they share the same Final Smash.
**Reflector works differently, but all other special moves are cloned. Non-cloned moves include neutral combo, up tilt, neutral air, forward air, back air and forward smash. Falco's [[Back aerial]] is a [[sex kick]]. Also, they share the same Final Smash.
*[[Captain Falcon (SSBB)|Captain Falcon]] & [[Ganondorf (SSBB)|Ganondorf]]
*[[Captain Falcon (SSBB)|Captain Falcon]] & [[Ganondorf (SSBB)|Ganondorf]]
**A totally different Final Smash and some different standard attacks, but some normal moves are still similar. And most notably, they both share 3 special moves. (Only difference is that Capt. Falcon has fire in his specials and Ganondorf's specials feature darkness.)
**A totally different Final Smash and some different standard attacks (neutral, forward tilt, down tilt, up tilt, up smash and forward air), but some normal moves are still similar. And most notably, they both share 3 special moves. (Only difference is that Capt. Falcon has fire in his specials and Ganondorf's specials feature darkness.)
*[[Mario (SSBB)|Mario]] & [[Luigi (SSBB)|Luigi]]
*[[Mario (SSBB)|Mario]] & [[Luigi (SSBB)|Luigi]]
**Some of their ground attacks and most aerials are the same. However, two of their specials are different, as well as Final Smashes. Now that they barely share any moves, many smashers don't even consider them to be semi-clones at this point.
**The differing moves are neutral combo, dash attack, up tilt, down tilt, forward smash, down smash, forward air and down air. Two of their specials are different, as well as Final Smashes. Now that they barely share any moves, many smashers don't even consider them to be semi-clones at this point.
*[[Ness (SSBB)|Ness]] & [[Lucas (SSBB)|Lucas]]
*[[Ness (SSBB)|Ness]] & [[Lucas (SSBB)|Lucas]]
**Only share 3 special attacks. (Ness has PK Flash & Lucas has PK Freeze). However, PK Freeze & PK Flash still work a little differently. They also have the same Final Smash. A few standard attacks are also somewhat similar, such as forward smash, up aerial, and down tilt. But even considering this, they are barely even "clone" characters at all.
**Only share 3 special attacks. (Ness has PK Flash & Lucas has PK Freeze). However, PK Freeze & PK Flash still work a little differently. They also have the same Final Smash. A few standard attacks are also somewhat similar, such as forward smash, up aerial, and down tilt. But even considering this, they are barely even "clone" characters at all.
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===Notes===
===Notes===
:These categorizations are not official, and are subject to interpretation. Notable controversies are that some people consider Link and Toon Link to have enough separate attacks to make them semi-clones, and some people believe that [[Marth (SSBB)|Marth]] and [[Ike (SSBB)|Ike]] have enough similarities to put them in the semi-clone category.
:These categorizations are not official, and are subject to interpretation. Notable controversies are that some people consider Link and Toon Link to have enough separate attacks to make them semi-clones, and some people believe that [[Marth (SSBB)|Marth]] and [[Ike (SSBB)|Ike]] have enough similarities to put them in the semi-clone category.
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Revision as of 16:54, March 24, 2009

A clone character is a common inclusion in the Super Smash Bros. series, and many other fighting games as well. It describes two or more characters that have nearly identical movesets with slight variations in the attacks. From the developer's perspective, a given character's model can be used as a base template from which to build another, and it is usually evident which one is the "original" and which is the clone.

Semi-clones

Semi-cloning (sometimes known as Luigification) is when a character shares some moves of another, while still having some variation in terms of moveset or special attacks. The term originated from Luigi, who was originally nearly indistinguishable from Mario, but has slowly been given his own unique characteristics and attacks. (This is similar to the development of Luigi throughout the Mario series' development). Many clones from Melee were then given semi-clone qualities before they returned in Brawl (while some did not return). The exact meaning can vary for different people. Some people believe that any character with clone-like traits that has any variation in attacks are semi-clones, while others think that certain characters need more unique attacks to be a semi-clone.

Clones in SSB

Non-playable

Clones in SSBM

In each pair, the former is the "original", while the latter is the clone.

Non-playable

Semi-clones

  • Mario & Luigi
    • The former clones have been differentiated with separate normal movesets and side specials.

Notable changes to Luigi between SSB and Melee:

  • Luigi has a different side special than Mario.
  • Different forward and, to a lesser extent, down aerial attacks.
  • Different forward Smash Attack.
  • Different Up Tilt.
  • Different neutral combo.

Clones in SSBB

  • Link & Toon Link
    • The only differing moves are Up Smash, Neutral Aerial, Forward Aerial, Back Aerial and Back Throw. Also, Toon Link's Down Aerial is a Stall-then-fall-aerial and also spike. His Spin Attack and the first hit of his Forward Smash also trap opponents, unlike Link's.

Non-playable

Semi-clones/Luigified Characters

Most of the semi-clones have some of the same standard moves as the original, but they may have greatly different animations and hitboxes in attacks, and in movement (walking, jumping, etc.).

  • Fox & Falco
    • Reflector works differently, but all other special moves are cloned. Non-cloned moves include neutral combo, up tilt, neutral air, forward air, back air and forward smash. Falco's Back aerial is a sex kick. Also, they share the same Final Smash.
  • Captain Falcon & Ganondorf
    • A totally different Final Smash and some different standard attacks (neutral, forward tilt, down tilt, up tilt, up smash and forward air), but some normal moves are still similar. And most notably, they both share 3 special moves. (Only difference is that Capt. Falcon has fire in his specials and Ganondorf's specials feature darkness.)
  • Mario & Luigi
    • The differing moves are neutral combo, dash attack, up tilt, down tilt, forward smash, down smash, forward air and down air. Two of their specials are different, as well as Final Smashes. Now that they barely share any moves, many smashers don't even consider them to be semi-clones at this point.
  • Ness & Lucas
    • Only share 3 special attacks. (Ness has PK Flash & Lucas has PK Freeze). However, PK Freeze & PK Flash still work a little differently. They also have the same Final Smash. A few standard attacks are also somewhat similar, such as forward smash, up aerial, and down tilt. But even considering this, they are barely even "clone" characters at all.
  • Fox & Wolf
    • The only moves that seem almost the same are Final Smash and Standard/Down Special moves. Wolf Flash and Fire Wolf may seem to be similar to Fox's moves, but they actually move and hit quite differently, and almost all of Wolf's standard attacks are different from Fox's. These two are on the very edge of "semi-clone" status, even less so than Ness and Lucas.

Notes

These categorizations are not official, and are subject to interpretation. Notable controversies are that some people consider Link and Toon Link to have enough separate attacks to make them semi-clones, and some people believe that Marth and Ike have enough similarities to put them in the semi-clone category.