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*{{change|Due to the aesthetic used in ''Ultimate'', Yoshi's model features a more subdued color scheme, but unlike in ''[[Brawl]]'', it retains its | *{{change|Due to the aesthetic used in ''Ultimate'', Yoshi's model features a more subdued color scheme, but unlike in ''[[Melee]]'' and ''[[Brawl]]'', it retains its chartreuse color from the ''Mario'' and ''Yoshi'' series used in ''[[Smash 64]]'' and ''SSB4''. His irises appear larger while his shoes feature subtle detailing.}} | ||
*{{change|Yoshi has a new [[Alternate costume (SSBU)#Yoshi|alternate costume]] based on his felted design in ''{{s|supermariowiki|Yoshi's Crafted World}}''. It replaces his {{s|mariowiki|Black Yoshi}} costume from ''SSB4''.}} | *{{change|Yoshi has a new [[Alternate costume (SSBU)#Yoshi|alternate costume]] based on his felted design in ''{{s|supermariowiki|Yoshi's Crafted World}}''. It replaces his {{s|mariowiki|Black Yoshi}} costume from ''SSB4''.}} | ||
*{{change|Yoshi now always faces the screen regardless of the direction he turns. Because of this, both his stance and moveset are mirrored.}} | *{{change|Yoshi now always faces the screen regardless of the direction he turns. Because of this, both his stance and moveset are mirrored.}} |
Revision as of 22:09, July 22, 2020
Aesthetics
- Due to the aesthetic used in Ultimate, Yoshi's model features a more subdued color scheme, but unlike in Melee and Brawl, it retains its chartreuse color from the Mario and Yoshi series used in Smash 64 and SSB4. His irises appear larger while his shoes feature subtle detailing.
- Yoshi has a new alternate costume based on his felted design in Yoshi's Crafted World. It replaces his Black Yoshi costume from SSB4.
- Yoshi now always faces the screen regardless of the direction he turns. Because of this, both his stance and moveset are mirrored.
- Yoshi is more expressive, he scowls when using his aerials and when grabbing onto a ledge.
- Idle pose, dashing, falling, and double jump's animations have been updated to further match Yoshi's upright posture.
- Yoshi no longer reverts to his posture and idle poses from Brawl while holding a small item.
- All of Yoshi's victory poses were slightly altered:
- His left-inputted victory pose now has him performing a Flutter Jump before spinning around once and striking a V sign.
- His up-inputted victory pose now has him strike a new pose, where he stands on one leg while extending his arms out.
- His right-inputted victory pose now has him punch the air twice and strike a pose with his right leg farther back.
Attributes
- Like all characters, Yoshi's jumpsquat animation takes 3 frames to complete (down from 6).
- Yoshi runs faster (1.86 → 2.046).
- Yoshi's initial dash is significantly faster (1.33 → 1.98).
- Yoshi walks slightly faster (1.15 → 1.208).
- Yoshi's air speed has been increased, being almost as high as Jigglypuff's in Melee (1.28 → 1.344).
- Yoshi has significantly higher traction (0.0426 → 0.095), allowing him to punish out of shield much more easily.
- Yoshi's jump height has been slightly reduced.
- Forward roll has less ending lag (FAF 36 → 31).
- Forward roll grants less intangibility (frames 4-21 → 4-15).
- Back roll has more startup and grants less intangibility (frames 4-21 → 5-16).
- Spot dodge has less ending lag (FAF 28 → 27).
- Spot dodge grants less intangibility (frames 3-18 → 3-17).
- Air dodge grants more intangibility (frames 3-28 → 3-30).
- Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 34 → 59).
- The reintroduction of directional air dodges benefits Yoshi, as due to Egg Throw not causing helplessness, he can get additional distance with a directional air dodge after using it.
- The removal of shield platform dropping benefits Yoshi, as he was the only character unable to perform the technique in Smash 4. When combined with his unique shield rendering him immune to shield stabbing, this effectively gives him the best shield in the game.
- Yoshi's double jump armor has been altered. The armor duration is significantly shorter, but like in Smash 64 and Melee, knockback taken is reduced if the armor is broken by an attack with sufficiently high knockback.
Ground attacks
- Neutral attack:
- The first hit transitions into the second hit faster (frame 9 → 6).
- Both hits have a higher hitlag multiplier (1× → 1.5× (hit 1), 2× (hit 2)), giving opponents more time to SDI the first hit and DI the second hit.
- The first hit has altered angles (60°/90°/50° → 361°/180°) and knockback (30 base/50 scaling → 40/35/10 base/30/28/20 scaling) to keep opponents close to Yoshi, akin to other neutral attacks. This allows it to connect better into the second hit and jab lock, but removes some of its guaranteed jab cancel setups.
- Due to this change, and the second hit using the Sakurai angle, grounded opponents hit by the move are launched at a lower angle. This allows it to get them offstage more effectively, but makes followups harder.
- Forward tilt:
- Forward tilt has drastically less ending lag (FAF 39 → 30).
- It launches opponents at higher angles (80°/65°/50° → 88°/85°), and has more base knockback (50 → 60), but less knockback scaling (80 → 75). Combined with the previous change, this turns it into a reliable combo starter, while also improving its KO ability.
- It deals more damage when not angled (7% → 8%).
- The outermost hitbox is slightly larger (2.8u → 3u).
- Its animation has been altered, with Yoshi no longer performing a full spin when swinging his tail. Yoshi also has an angry expression.
- Up tilt:
- Up tilt's hitboxes start from a higher position, making them unable to hit short characters in front of Yoshi.
- Down tilt:
- Down tilt has slightly more base knockback (65 → 67).
- Down tilt's animation is reversed, with Yoshi spinning towards the screen rather than away from it.
- Dash attack:
- Dash attack has less ending lag (FAF 50 → 41).
- It deals more damage (9% → 11% (clean), 6% → 8% (late)), with knockback scaling compensated (52 → 45 (clean), 44 (late)).
- It no longer crosses up shields consistently, making it easier to punish.
- The late hit has smaller hitboxes (5u/3.5u → 4u/2.5u).
- Forward smash:
- Forward smash has two different hitboxes instead of three, with the sweetspot taking priority over the sourspot and being located closer to Yoshi. This effectively removes its weaker sourspot (that dealt 13%) and makes the sweetspot easier to land.
- It has a longer hitbox duration (frame 14 → 14-16) and grants more intangibility on Yoshi's head (frames 12-14 → 12-16).
- The sweetspot has more knockback scaling (98 → 102).
- Up smash:
- Up smash deals more knockback (37 base/95 scaling → 38/99).
- Down smash:
- Down smash launches at a lower angle (30° → 26°) and deals more knockback (hit 1:40/42 base/73/57 scaling → 51/46/75/63, hit 2: 40/42 base/81/75 scaling → 51/44/83/75), allowing it to KO around 150% with the first and 130% with the second hit from center stage.
Aerial attacks
- All aerials have less landing lag (11 frames → 7 (neutral), 17 → 12 (forward), 19 → 11 (back), 14 → 8 (up), 24 → 17 (down)).
- Forward aerial:
- The removal of teching for grounded meteor smashes improves forward aerial's combo potential onstage, compounded further by its reduced landing lag.
- The sourspot has been removed, with the sweetspot and meteor hitboxes being made bigger to compensate (2.4u (sweetspot)/3.5u (meteor) → 4.2u/4u).
- Despite the auto-cancel window remaining unchanged, it no longer auto-cancels in a short hop due to Yoshi's lower short hop duration.
- It has a different animation, with Yoshi no longer flipping after the headbutt.
- Back aerial:
- Back aerial deals more damage (2.5% → 3.5% (hits 1-2), 5% → 5.5% (hit 3), total: 10% → 12.5%) with knockback not compensated on the third hit, increasing its KO potential.
- It has much lower hitlag multipliers (2× → 0.5× (hits 1-2), 1.5× (hit 3)), allowing it to execute faster and making the first two hits harder to SDI.
- The second and third hits have less startup lag (frame 17/25 → 14/18), causing them to connect more reliably.
- However, the move's total duration remains unchanged, giving it more ending lag.
- The move's first two hits deal much less knockback (30/50 base/200/150 scaling → 20 base/100 scaling), and use the autolink angle against grounded opponents as well (361° → 367°) instead of only aerial ones. This allows them to connect more reliably, and combined with the move's lower landing lag, start combos at a wide range of percentages.
- All hitboxes have been moved upwards (Y offset: 2u-4u → 3u-5u (hit 1 and 2), 3u → 5u (hit 3)), increasing the move's range above Yoshi, but reducing it below him.
- Back aerial has a slightly altered animation, with Yoshi striking a new pose at the end of the move.
- Up aerial:
- Up aerial has less ending lag (FAF 39 → 37).
- It auto-cancels earlier (frame 33 → 31).
- It has a new animation where Yoshi raises his tail up from behind without flipping.
- Down aerial:
- Down aerial's looping hits have a lower hitlag multiplier (1.1× → 0.6×), use the autolink angle (270°/260°/280° → 367°), and have consistent knockback scaling (100/80 → 100), allowing them to connect more reliably and making them harder to SDI, despite their higher SDI multiplier (1.5× → 1.8×).
- The landing hit deals more knockback that is no longer set (40 set/100 scaling → 65 base/100 scaling), causing opponents to tumble even at 0%. This allows it to set up edgeguards more effectively, and grants it followups at low percents if the opponent fails to tech.
- The move's initial auto-cancel window has been removed.
- It has smaller hitboxes (6u/4.5u → 5u/3.5u (looping hits), 7u/5u → 6.5u/4.5u (last hit)).
- The looping hits deal less damage (3%/2% → 2.3%/1.8% (hits 1-6), 2.2%/1.5% → 1.9%/1.4% (hits 7-12)), reducing the move's maximum damage output (32.2% → 28%) despite the last hit dealing more damage (1% → 2.8%).
- The last hit's knockback has not been fully compensated for its higher damage output (60 base/200 scaling → 55/179), improving its KO potential.
- The last hit has a higher hitlag multiplier (1.1× → 1.5×).
Throws and other attacks
- Grabs:
- All grabs have noticeably less ending lag (FAF 56 → 49 (standing), 68 → 57 (dash), 65 → 52 (pivot)), especially compared to the rest of the cast, as all non-extended grabs have conversely had their ending lag increased.
- Dash and pivot grab have more startup lag (frame 11 → 16 (dash), 10 → 17 (pivot)), no longer being faster than his standing grab. His pivot grab in particular has gone from among the fastest to one of the slowest.
- Yoshi's pivot grab animation has been altered; Yoshi pauses for a bit before turning around on one foot.
- Yoshi's grab animation has changed. After grabbing an opponent and holding them in his mouth, his cheeks become swollen and jiggle, as if the fighter inside is trying to break out. He also holds his mouth closed with his hands, and no longer crouches down to the ground.
- Pummel:
- Pummel deals less damage (2% → 1.3%).
- It deals more hitlag (4 frames → 14), but has much less startup (frame 4 → 1) and ending lag (FAF 16 → 7).
- It uses a unique, cartoony chomping sound effect, rather than a standard "kick" sound effect.
- The speed of Yoshi's throws is no longer weight-dependent.
- Forward throw:
- Forward throw deals more damage (7% → 9%) with no compensation on knockback.
- Back throw:
- Back throw deals more damage (7% → 9%) with no compensation on knockback.
- Up throw:
- Up throw has significantly more knockback scaling (43 → 90), allowing it to KO at around 230%, compared to being unable to KO under 500% without rage.
- Down throw:
- Down throw releases the opponent later (frame 15 → 25), making it easier to DI.
- However, its ending lag has been reduced relative to its release frame (FAF 44 → 51). Combined with Yoshi's faster jumpsquat and jump speed, this improves its combo potential, possessing followups even up to high percents.
- Down throw releases the opponent later (frame 15 → 25), making it easier to DI.
- Edge attack:
- Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).
Special moves
- Egg Lay:
- Egg Lay has less startup lag (frame 20 → 18) with identical ending lag, shortening its duration (FAF 44 → 42).
- Opponents can no longer move left and right in the air while in an egg.
- It has a slightly altered animation, inflating Yoshi's cheeks more as he swallows opponents, similar to his grab.
- Egg Roll:
- Egg Roll deals drastically more damage (4%-≈9% → 10%-≈13.8%).
- Its base knockback and knockback scaling have been reversed (50/70 → 70/50), making it safer on hit at low percents, while still improving its KO potential due to its higher damage output.
- Yoshi always bounces once when using Egg Roll on the ground. This makes the move's execution slower and more predictable.
- Changing direction takes longer.
- Yoshi strikes a new pose before using Egg Roll.
- Egg Throw:
- Yoshi gains slightly more vertical distance on the first Egg Throw, particularly after a jump.
- Eggs have a higher hitlag multiplier (0.3× → 0.6×), giving Yoshi more time to follow up.
- Eggs can bounce on the ground and retain their horizontal momentum before they break, giving Yoshi a new option to stop approaches.
- Eggs deal a single hit to opponents instead of two, with the same total damage (1% (hit 1), 5% (hit 2) → 6%) and no compensation on knockback.
- Egg Throw has more startup (frame 15 → 16) and ending lag (FAF 54 → 56).
- Eggs have received negative shield damage (0 → -3), effectively dealing half their usual damage to shields.
- Yoshi can use either his right arm or left arm to throw eggs, due to his mirrored stance.
- Yoshi Bomb:
- Yoshi Bomb can sweetspot a ledge even if Yoshi is facing away from it.
- Both the grounded and aerial versions allow Yoshi to go through soft platforms if he is high enough above them and the control stick is held down.
- If too close to them, he will always go through.
- Yoshi once again vocalizes when using the grounded version, much like in previous games up until Brawl.
- Final Smash:
- Yoshi has a new Final Smash called Stampede!. He headbutts in front of him and an army of multicolored Yoshis stampede over the trapped players, similar to his part of the Super Smash Bros. Melee opening.