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*I've only chosen one character per universe for both categories. | |||
*As much as I'd list Terry and Hero's routes both for a three way tie, I went with Ryu's for the stamina route on my Worst list. | |||
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Revision as of 23:38, November 20, 2019
This is Smash fan NinTylo (which means my real name is Tyler, and I put part of my name in the very middle of Nintendo). I'm a person for anime and a lot video gaming in general.
Most of my page is gonna be a W.I.P. based on more of Ultimate's DLC having yet to be fully released.
My Opinions on Smash
- Favorite Character (My Main): Yoshi
- Despised Character (My Worst Match-Up; I'd NEVER main): Isabelle
- Favorite Stage: Spiral Mountain
- Despised Stage: The Great Cave Offensive
- Favorite Couple: Mario/Peach & Link/Zelda
- Despised Couple: Any pairing with a Pokemon
- Favorite Game: Ultimate
- Despised Game: N/A
- Most Overrated Character: Joker
- Most Underrated Character: Inkling
- Favorite Item: Smash Ball
- Despised Item: Mr. Saturn
- Favorite Poke Ball: Solgaleo
- Despised Poke Ball: Goldeen
- Favorite Assist Trophy: Rathalos
- Despised Assist Trophy: Nintendog
- Favorite Mode: Stage Builder (post-Brawl)
- Despised Mode: Camera Mode (Melee)
- Favorite Boss: Rathalos
- Despised Boss: Dracula (Classic Mode)
- Favorite Villain: Master Hand/Crazy Hand
- Despised Villain: Dracula
- Favorite Song: Pollyanna (I Believe in You)
- Despised Song: N/A
- Favorite Final Smash: The Mighty Jinjonator (Banjo & Kazooie)
- Despised Final Smash: Peach Blossom/Daisy Blossom (Peach/Daisy)
- Favorite Solo Event: King of the Yoshis (Wii U)
- Despised Solo Event: King of the Mountain (Melee)
- Favorite Co-Op Event: Robots vs. Dragons (Wii U)
- Despised Co-Op Event: Poisonous Plant (Wii U)
- Favorite Classic Mode Route (SSBU): Jurassic Journey (Yoshi)
- Despised Classic Mode Route (SSBU): The Teamwork of Courage (Toon Link)
Favorite & Least Favorite Fighters
Excellent Fighters
Whilst there are a couple of issues, their movesets, final smashes, and playability are first rate.
Good Fighters
Problems with these fighters are more prominent, but their overall presence is still enjoyable.
Incineroar (If only his up special wasn't too risky)
Pikachu (All the nostalgia since 64)
Dr. Mario (Slower than Mario, but a good recycling of said icon's old moveset)
Shulk (A pretty powerful counterattack)
R.O.B. (He truly subverts a despised peripheral as a fighter)
Fox (He certainly deserves his legacy as a fighter)
Falco (Highest jumper anyone could use)
Kirby (Doesn't seem quite as powerful as he is himself)
Zelda (Powerful princess)
Marth (Sick neutral special)
Lucina (Good echo she is for Marth)
Sonic (His moveset could've used more hard-hitting to it)
Sheik (Quick to get use against slower opponents)
Bowser Jr. (All his alternate costumes rock)
Terry (Easier for me to get used to him than both Street Fighter characters)
Okay Fighters
This applies to fighters who aren't anything new to the franchise and overall just don't fit in well with even the good ones. On the other hand, specific traits of them are generally fine and serviceable. There can also be fighters with a good moveset of neutral and/or special attacks attached to an otherwise bad final smash or vice versa.
Palutena (Some ups and downs to her moveset, but I find her conversations with Pit and Viridi to be more appealing)
Meta Knight (Why do all of his special attacks have to rely on recovery)
Robin (I just wish most of his attacks didn't have a limit.)
Daisy (Same as her echo)
Peach (Decent moveset, worst final smash)
Diddy Kong (Post-Brawl; some of his usefulness seems lost in translation)
Dark Pit (His final smash seems weak and easy to dodge)
Pit (I find his comedy more appealing than his moveset)
Bayonetta (If only she had better special attacks)
Snake (I hardly rely on stealth)
Zero Suit Samus (Her grappling gun seems more useful than her physical attacks in general)
Ice Climbers (I don't know; they're final smash overshadows anything interesting about their moveset)
Bad Figthers
These fighters are affected by sub-par aspects that hurt their enjoyable factor. There is some redeeming value to these fighters, but their cons overshadow their pros at times.
Hero (I think they could've been done better if their down special wasn't so random, and was more fair for online matches; otherwise, this fighter is fine enough)
Jigglypuff (Weak as its moveset is, at least I can get used to it)
Chrom (Nice moveset, but his up special is problematic if I mained him)
Lucario (I don't think high damage is worth a more powerful risk at all)
Wii Fit Trainer (A strange idea for a fighter)
Simon (Half his specials are better than his neutral attacks)
Richter (Same as his echo)
Villager (Why do they bother introducing fighters like this?)
Terrible Fighters
There is little to no redeeming value in these fighters and they may as well have weak movesets with difficult playability.
Duck Hunt (Their moveset is more tolerable that their actual character)
Mr. Game & Watch (Bland to say the least)
Ken (Nothing useful but his up special, unlike his echo)
Toon Link (post-SSB4; his neutral moveset changed for the worst)
Joker (Over-hyped and he's all style, no substance)
Ryu (All his moves are next to impossible for me to get used to)
Atrocious Fighters
Nothing about these fighters is redeemable and they go above and beyond in lacking quality that terrible fighters do.
Pichu (Self-damage when using eletricity? Yeah, like that helps!)
Olimar (His Pikmin don't really contribute much, and he doesn't make much sense as a fighter)
Isabelle (Weakest character I could ever stumble across, and her fishing rod grinds on me)
My Custom Classic Mode: NinTylo Mains
My adversaries (if Classic Mode was customizable like Stage Builder) consist of my Top Five Mains. The Mii Fighters represent me and my favorite costumes. The penultimate battle is against a giant Yoshi, who's been my main since Melee (much less 64). The boss of my route is Rathalos based on my love of dragons no matter the type (besides wyverns).
| Round | Opponent | Stage | Music | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Mii Brawler  , Mii Swordfighter  , and Mii Gunner  |
Wuhu Island | Wii Sports Series Melody | Mii Fighters representing myself (NinTylo). Mii Fighter Costume Combinations:
|
| 2 | Wolf  |
Lylat Cruise | Star Wolf (Brawl) | |
| 3 | Ridley  |
Norfair | Vs. Ridley | |
| 4 | Banjo & Kazooie  |
Spiral Mountain | Main Theme - Banjo-Kazooie | |
| 5 | King K. Rool  |
Kongo Jungle | Crocodile Cacophony | |
| 6 | Giant Yoshi  |
Yoshi's Island | Yoshi's Island (for 3DS/Wii U) | |
| Bonus Stage | ||||
| Final | Rathalos | Forest Hill | Roar/Rathalos | |
Pollyanna (I Believe in You) accompanies the credits if completing my route.
My Classic Mode Scores
These are my current scores before the month of August 2019. (This tier shall be updated once every month (assuming I get new scores for some - if not ALL of these characters) Bold marks my main, favorite route, and highest score, while Italics mark my Worst Match-Up, despised route, and lowest score.
| Rank | Fighter # | Character | Classic Mode Title | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 05 | Yoshi |
Jurassic Journey | 2,202,770 |
| 2 | 14 |  Bowser |
The Red One. Every Red One! | 2,158,060 |
| 3 | 67 | King K. Rool |
Super Heavyweight Class | 2,144,210 |
| 4 | 44 | Wolf |
Reunited Roster | 2,114,790 |
| 5 | 04 |  Samus |
Another Planet, Another Bounty | 2,094,840 |
| 6 | 60 |  Ryu |
Seeking a Challenge | 2,078,540 |
| 7 | 70 |  Piranha Plant |
New Bloom | 2,073,290 |
| 8 | 02 |  Donkey Kong |
Journey to New Donk City | 2,071,350 |
| 9 | 65 | Ridley |
It Can't Be! Space Pirates! | 2,063,970 |
| 10 | 22 |  Young Link |
Hyrule Smash! | 2,062,260 |
| 11 | 47 |  Wii Fit Trainer |
Aerobic Smash | 2,060,030 |
| 12 | 66 |  Simon |
Smash-vania | 2,059,630 |
| 13 | 21 |  Marth |
A Kingdom of Dragons | 2,052,610 |
| 14 | 37 |  Lucas |
Magic, Sacred Powers, and PSI! | 2,051,910 |
| 15 | 46 |  Mega Man |
Variable Weapon System: Online! | 2,042,820 |
| 16 | 66ɛ |  Richter |
Smash Echoes | 2,040,850 |
| 17 | 28 |  Pit |
Fight for the Goddess! | 2,037,770 |
| 18 | 09 |  Luigi |
Luigi's Nightmares | 2,037,090 |
| 19 | 03 |  Link |
A Quest to Seal the Darkness | 2,033,090 |
| 20 | 13 |  Peach |
No Damsel in Distress | 2,029,530 |
| 21 | 72 |  Hero |
A History of Heroism | 2,029,010 |
| 22 | 39 |  King Dedede |
Royal Rumble | 2,021,090 |
| 23 | 38 |  Sonic |
At the Speed of Sound | 2,019,540 |
| 24 | 73 | Banjo & Kazooie |
Perfect Partners | 2,019,220 |
| 25 | 57 |  Shulk |
Witness the Monado's Power | 2,015,360 |
| 26 | 30 |  Wario |
I'm-a Gonna Win! | 2,014,570 |
| 27 | 24 |  Mewtwo |
Psychic Control | 2,013,610 |
| 28 | 61 |  Cloud |
A Ride? Not Interested. | 2,012,770 |
| 29 | 04ɛ |  Dark Samus |
The Great Poison Given Form | 2,011,430 |
| 30 | 07 |  Fox |
Spacebourn Smash | 2,010,060 |
| 31 | 49 |  Little Mac |
Friendly Sparring | 2,007,640 |
| 32 | 69 |  Incineroar |
Burning Pro Wrestling Spirit! | 2,004,970 |
| 33 | 32 |  Ike |
The Black-Clad Warriors | 1,995,090 |
| 34 | 31 |  Snake |
Weapons and Equipment OSP | 1,994,730 |
| 35 | 59 |  Duck Hunt |
Duck, Dog, Zapper | 1,991,360 |
| 36 | 43 |  Toon Link |
The Teamwork of Courage | 1,990,940 |
| 37 | 21ɛ |  Lucina |
A Path of Heroes | 1,985,270 |
| 38 | 13ɛ |  Daisy |
Sarasaland Represent! | 1,975,360 |
| 39 | 40 |  Olimar |
Planetary Explorer | 1,967,930 |
| 40 | 20 |  Falco |
Soar Above the Darkness | 1,967,780 |
| 41 | 54 |  Palutena |
A Little Divine Intervention | 1,963,310 |
| 42 | 58 |  Bowser Jr. |
Mama Peach, Where Are You? | 1,958,590 |
| 43 | 71 |  Joker |
Shadows | 1,955,150 |
| 44 | 25 |  Roy |
A Journey of Swords | 1,955,150 |
| 45 | 29 |  Zero Suit Samus |
Grapplers! Whips! Claws! | 1,953,620 |
| 46 | 10 |  Ness |
Home to Onett! | 1,953,170 |
| 47 | 23 |  Ganondorf |
Enroaching Darkness | 1,951,950 |
| 48 | 64 |  Inkling |
An Inkredible Journey | 1,951,140 |
| 49 | 55 |  Pac-Man |
Ageless Classic | 1,950,690 |
| 50 | 28ɛ |  Dark Pit |
Created Warriors | 1,948,530 |
| 51 | 33-35 |  Pokemon Trainer |
The Future Champion | 1,945,530 |
| 52 | 16 |  Sheik |
Masquerade | 1,944,420 |
| 53 | 17 |  Zelda |
Wisdom Prevails | 1,944,400 |
| 54 | 60ɛ |  Ken |
Red-Hot Rivalry | 1,943,810 |
| 55 | 62 |  Corrin |
Between White and Black | 1,942,120 |
| 56 | 36 |  Diddy Kong |
Hey, Little Buddy! | 1,936,540 |
| 57 | 27 |  Meta Knight |
Two Sides of the Same Coin | 1,931,120 |
| 58 | 42 |  R.O.B. |
Unreadable Expressions | 1,931,010 |
| 59 | 50 |  Greninja |
Your Turn, Greninja! | 1,927,410 |
| 60 | 56 |  Robin |
Thunder and Flames | 1,925,820 |
| 61 | 06 |  Kirby |
Gourmet Clash | 1,919,400 |
| 62 | 15 |  Ice Climbers |
Duos for Days | 1,908,950 |
| 63 | 74 |  Terry |
The King of Smash | 1,908,210 |
| 64 | 25ɛ |  Chrom |
Fight as One | 1,904,350 |
| 65 | 18 |  Dr. Mario |
Colorful Treatment Plan | 1,903,450 |
| 66 | 45 |  Villager |
Mistake to Underestimate | 1,902,840 |
| 67 | 19 |  Pichu |
Lightweight Fracas | 1,902,570 |
| 68 | 08 |  Pikachu |
I Choose You! | 1,896,370 |
| 69 | 26 |  Mr. Game & Watch |
A Long Legacy | 1,894,190 |
| 70 | 68 |  Isabelle |
Best in Show | 1,892,070 |
| 71 | 11 |  Captain Falcon |
Up Close and Personal | 1,889,950 |
| 72 | 41 |  Lucario |
Counter Encounters | 1,885,010 |
| 73 | 48 |  Rosalina & Luma |
One Star after Another | 1,865,600 |
| 74 | 63 |  Bayonetta |
The Requiem of Fallen Wings | 1,865,310 |
| 75 | 12 |  Jigglypuff |
All Original, All 64! | 1,849,860 |
| 76 | 01 |  Mario |
Let's-a Go! | 1,826,150 |
| Total High Score (All Fighters): 150,685,560 | ||||
Best & Worst Classic Mode Routes
Notes
- I've only chosen one character per universe for both categories.
- As much as I'd list Terry and Hero's routes both for a three way tie, I went with Ryu's for the stamina route on my Worst list.
Top Ten Best
| Rank | Character | Classic Mode Title |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Yoshi |
Jurassic Journey |
| 2 | King K. Rool |
Super Heavyweight Class |
| 3 | Marth |
A Kingdom of Dragons |
| 4 | Bowser |
The Red One. Every Red One! |
| 5 | Young Link |
Hyrule Smash! |
| 6 | Wolf |
Reunited Roster |
| 7 | Jigglypuff |
All Original, All 64! |
| 8 | King Dedede |
Royal Rumble |
| 9 | Mega Man |
Variable Weapon System: Online! |
| 10 | Samus |
Another Planet, Another Bounty |
Top Ten Worst
| Rank | Character | Classic Mode Title |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Toon Link |
The Teamwork of Courage |
| 2 | Ryu |
Seeking a Challenge |
| 3 | Isabelle |
Best in Show |
| 4 | Mr. Game & Watch |
A Long Legacy |
| 5 | Kirby |
Gourmet Clash |
| 6 | Lucario |
Counter Encounters |
| 7 | Corrin |
Between White and Black |
| 8 | Dr. Mario |
Colorful Treatment Plan |
| 9 | Bayonetta |
The Requiem of Fallen Wings |
| 10 | Simon |
Smash-vania |
Trivial Theories/Statements
- If I had a dollar for everyone who's highest Classic Mode scores comes from Yoshi (my main), I'd be filthy stinkin' rich.
- I'd say it's possible to get a no damage run in King K. Rool's Classic Mode route with all six of his opponents and the boss when scoring 9.9 without a TAS. (Assuming you're really lucky)
- My highest score coming from every opponent before the boss came from King K. Rool.
- If you combine Piranha Plant's scorability with Rathalos and how high I could seriously score with King K. Rool and his playable opponents, then it adds up to a higher Classic Mode score than Yoshi.
- Had I not taken damage on Galleom with King K. Rool, I likely would've scored higher than Bowser.
- Not to mention, if K. Rool had Rathalos for a boss instead of Galleom, I would've scored higher than Yoshi on the flipside. (Assuming he can score just as high on Rathalos as anyone but Duck Hunt and Hero can)
- Had I not taken damage on Galleom with King K. Rool, I likely would've scored higher than Bowser.
- It's pretty much a guarantee that your lowest score in Classic Mode will come from either Mario or Jigglypuff.
- Ironically, Mario fights the most opponents in general (with a total of 23), yet is my lowest scoring character.
- Likely due to how low of a score from Giga Bowser offers for a unique boss.
- Ironically, Mario fights the most opponents in general (with a total of 23), yet is my lowest scoring character.
- Conversely, Mario's green, egg-spinning companion ironically scores the highest.
- Not to mention, Yoshi remains my main since Melee. (Much less 64)
- Try thinking of my Classic Mode score tier list as a Grade Point Average rating system for something like middle school (or even high school) as an example:
- Making it only barely above 1.825 Million rate, Mario would fail miserably enough to be held back a grade. (Cause I'm very close to getting Jigglypuff a 1.85 Million score at this point)
- Those in the 1.85 Million territory (like Bayonetta and Captain Falcon) would only barely reach their passable potential with the help of a Special Ed class or two.
- Those in the 1.9 Million rate (like Diddy Kong and Dark Pit) would be the completely average school student to just keep going with the flow of moving up a grade after every summer.
- Those in both the 1.95 (like Roy and Snake) & 2 Million rate (like Banjo & Kazooie and Luigi) would have the strong GPA of up to at least 3.25.
- Those in the 2.05 Million rate (Marth and Ridley) would make the perfect 4.0 GPA and would have the average potential to go to a greater college than those with a lower GPA.
- At the 2.1 Million rate, Wolf could add lots of extra credit to his 4.0 GPA to be accepted into like the greatest college ever. (And there's a chance I could get Samus, much less Ryu and Piranha Plant at the same rate)
- In the 2.15 Million rate, Bowser would be able to skip one grade along with being accepted in the greatest college there is. (And had I not taken damage from Galleom, King K. Rool could be in the same rate by now)
- Yoshi what with his 2.2 Million rate would be akin to skip up to THREE grades, or even be at the same levels of intelligence as Matilda Wormwood.
- Yoshi has my favorite Classic Mode route based on not only his boss, but also the theme of his route being themed around my favorite class of the Animal Kingdom: Reptiles.
- Conversely, Toon Link's Classic Mode route is my most hated based on AI teammates delaying my time to finish every round, including the boss.
