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* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=22623 First tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=22623 First tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=24090 Second tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=24090 Second tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=26858 Third tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=27616 Fourth tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=31427 Fifth tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=34788 Sixth tier list (April Fools)]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=34838 Sixth tier list (real)]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=50171 Seventh tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=50171 Seventh tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=81928 Eighth tier list]
* [http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=81928 Eighth tier list]

Revision as of 22:41, January 18, 2007

The Melee Back Room tier list has changed many times since its inception. Previous versions of the list are as follows:

First tier list (October 8, 2002)

4.9: Sheik
4.8: Falco, Fox
4.4: Marth
4.1: Mario
4.0: Zelda, Samus, Luigi
3.9: Peach
3.8: Dr. Mario
3.5: Ice Climbers, Ganondorf
3.4: Pikachu, Link
3.2: Captain Falcon, Young Link
3.1: Jigglypuff, Ness
2.9: Yoshi, Donkey Kong
2.8: Roy
2.1: Kirby
1.8: Mr. Game and Watch
1.6: Pichu, Bowser
1.3: Mewtwo

Though this was the first tier list, Smash World Forums was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages." The term "F/F/S" (short for "Falco, Fox and Sheik") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier. Members on Smashboards, perhaps in backlash against novice sentiment towards Roy and Link, generally disdained those characters, and generally favored the game's fastest characters.

Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of Mewtwo, which they felt to be too low. Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low or even middle tier character and were miffed that he, despite his great recovery and powerful throws, was placed at the bottom of bottom tier, where most people believed Bowser belonged (due to his great lack of speed).

Second tier list (December 19, 2002)

For the second tier list, the Melee Back Room not only averaged the votes for every character to determine a tier list, but also calculated the mode of characters' placements.

Mean

1-Sheik (2.2)
2-Fox (2.3)
3-Falco (3.9)
4-Peach (4.4)
5-Marth (4.7)
6-Mario (8.5)
7-Dr. Mario (8.8)
8-Samus (9.6)
9-Luigi (10.0)
10-Ganondorf and Jigglypuff (11.0)
11-Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers (13.0)
12-Zelda, Ness and Link (15.0)
13-Pikachu (16.0)
14-Yoshi and Young Link (17.0)
15-Roy and Donkey Kong (20.0)
16-Mr. Game and Watch, Kirby and Bowser (21.0)
17-Mewtwo (23.0)
18-Pichu (24.0)

Mode

Sheik - 1
Fox - 2
Falco - 3
Peach - 4
Marth - 5
Zelda - 5
Samus - 6
Ganondorf - 7
Dr.Mario - 9
Mario - 10
Jigglypuff - 10
C.Falcon - 11
Luigi - 12
Ice Climbers - 13
Link - 14
Y.Link - 15
Ness - 16
Yoshi - 18
Pikachu - 20
Bowser - 22
Roy - 23
DK - 23
Kirby - 24
Mewtwo - 24
Pichu - 25
Game&Watch - 26

Third tier list (June 23, 2003)

Top Tier

  • Sheik
  • Fox
  • Falco
  • Marth
  • Peach

Upper Tier

  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario
  • Luigi
  • Samus
  • Jigglypuff
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ganondorf

Middle Tier

  • Ice Climbers
  • Yoshi
  • Ness
  • Pikachu
  • Roy
  • Link
  • Young Link
  • Zelda
  • Donkey Kong

Bottom Tier

  • Mr. Game & Watch
  • Kirby
  • Mewtwo
  • Pichu
  • Bowser

This tier list was released soon after Ken Hoang won Tournament Go 4. Before Ken, Marth strategy largely encompassed rolling and C-stick smashing symptomatic of low-level play today, but Ken introduced to the community the uses of dash-dancing, chain throwing and aerial attacks, all techniques that largely favored Marth and moved him to top tier for years to come.

Fourth tier list (July 1, 2003)

Top Tier:

  • Sheik
  • Fox
  • Marth
  • Peach

Upper Tier:

  • Falco
  • Samus
  • Mario/Dr. Mario
  • Jigglypuff
  • Ganondorf
  • Captain Falcon
  • Luigi

Middle Tier

  • Pikachu
  • Yoshi
  • Ice Climbers
  • Zelda
  • Ness
  • Link/Young Link
  • Roy

Lower Tier

  • Donkey Kong
  • Mr. Game and Watch
  • Kirby

Bottom Tier

  • Mewtwo
  • Pichu
  • Bowser

Fifth tier list (September 29, 2003)

Top Tier

  • Sheik
  • Marth

Upper Tier

  • Fox
  • Peach
  • Falco

High Tier

  • Samus
  • Captain Falcon
  • Ganondorf
  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario
  • Jigglypuff
  • Luigi

Middle Tier

  • Yoshi
  • Link
  • Roy
  • Pikachu
  • Young Link
  • Ice Climbers
  • Zelda

Low Tier

  • Ness
  • Kirby
  • Donkey Kong
  • Mewtwo

Bottom Tier

  • Mr. Game and Watch
  • Pichu
  • Bowser

Sixth tier list (April Fools: March 31, 2004)

Top Tier

  • Sheik
  • Jigglypuff

Upper Tier

  • Fox
  • Captain Falcon
  • Falco
  • Link

High Tier

  • Marth
  • Roy
  • Peach
  • Luigi
  • Ice Climbers

Middle Tier

  • Ganondorf
  • Samus
  • Mewtwo
  • Ness
  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario

Low Tier

  • Young Link
  • Kirby
  • Pikachu
  • Mr. Game and Watch
  • Donkey Kong

Bottom Tier

  • Zelda
  • Pichu
  • Bowser

This tier list doubled as an April Fools joke and a lesson to the community to not blindly swallow the Melee Back Room tier list as the truth. Though most people suspected this tier list was a hoax, it set a precedent to criticizing the tier list that had not existed before.

To "defend" this hoax during the two tumultuous days it was the official tier list, Melee Back Room members argued that Marth was too slow to remain in the top two tiers, that Link had untapped aerial prowess, and that Jigglypuff, through speed and the Wall of Pain, ruled the air to the point of domination.

The Melee Back Room forgot to include Yoshi in this tier list; once people realized he was missing, the MBR placed him in middle tier, between Ness and Mario.

Sixth tier list (real version: April 2, 2004)

Top Tier:

  • Sheik
  • Fox
  • Marth

Upper Tier:

  • Falco
  • Peach
  • Captain Falcon
  • Samus
  • Jigglypuff

High Tier:

  • Ganondorf
  • Mario
  • Dr. Mario
  • Luigi

Middle Tier:

  • Link
  • Pikachu
  • Ice Climbers
  • Roy
  • Zelda
  • Young Link
  • Yoshi

Lower Tier:

  • Ness
  • Donkey Kong
  • Kirby
  • Mr. Game and Watch
  • Mewtwo

Bottom Tier:

  • Bowser
  • Pichu

Seventh tier list (March 19, 2005)

Top Tier:

  • Sheik
  • Fox
  • Marth

Upper Tier:

  • Peach
  • Falco
  • Captain Falcon
  • Samus

High Tier:

  • Jigglypuff
  • Dr. Mario
  • Ganondorf
  • Mario
  • Ice Climbers

Middle Tier:

  • Luigi
  • Link
  • Roy
  • Donkey Kong
  • Pikachu
  • Zelda

Low Tier:

  • Ness
  • Young Link
  • Yoshi
  • Kirby
  • Mr. Game and Watch
  • Bowser

Bottom Tier:

  • Mewtwo
  • Pichu

Eighth tier list (July 8, 2006)

This is the current tier list.

Top Tier:

  • Fox
  • Falco

High Tier:

  • Sheik
  • Marth
  • Peach

Middle Tier:

  • Captain Falcon
  • Ice Climbers
  • Samus
  • Dr. Mario
  • Jigglypuff
  • Mario
  • Ganondorf

Low Tier:

  • Link
  • Luigi
  • Donkey Kong
  • Roy
  • Young Link
  • Pikachu

Bottom Tier:

  • Yoshi
  • Zelda
  • Mr. Game and Watch
  • Ness
  • Bowser
  • Kirby
  • Pichu
  • Mewtwo

The names of these tiers were originally called God Tier, Top Tier, High Tier, Middle Tier, and Low Tier; these names were changed to the ones shown above on July 10th, two days after the tier list was released.

This tier list marks the first time Sheik was not in top tier, and contains the biggest bottom tier of any tier list thus far. The balance of the tier list was a point of contention amongst many Smashers, who felt that it was too bottom-heavy and that the lower tiers should themselves be split, or the high tiers merged (particularly the top two).

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