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1.8: [[Mr. Game and Watch]]<br> | 1.8: [[Mr. Game and Watch]]<br> | ||
1.6: [[Pichu]], [[Bowser]]<br> | 1.6: [[Pichu]], [[Bowser]]<br> | ||
1.3: [[Mewtwo]] | 1.3: [[Mewtwo]]<br> | ||
Though this was the first tier list, [[Smash World Forums]] was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages." The term "F/F/S" (short for "Falco, Fox and Sheik") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier. Members on Smashboards, perhaps in backlash against novice sentiment towards Roy and Link, generally disdained those characters, and generally favored the game's fastest character. | |||
Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of Mewtwo, which they felt to be too low. Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low or even middle tier character and were miffed that he, despite his great recovery and powerful throws, was placed at the bottom of bottom tier, where most people believed Bowser belonged (due to his great lack of speed). | |||
==Second tier list (December 19, 2002)== | ==Second tier list (December 19, 2002)== | ||
Revision as of 09:53, September 28, 2006
The Melee Back Room tier list has changed many times since its inception. Previous versions of the list are as follows:
First tier list (October 8, 2002)
4.9: Sheik
4.8: Falco, Fox
4.4: Marth
4.1: Mario
4.0: Zelda, Samus, Luigi
3.9: Peach
3.8: Dr. Mario
3.5: Ice Climbers, Ganondorf
3.4: Pikachu, Link
3.2: Captain Falcon, Young Link
3.1: Jigglypuff, Ness
2.9: Yoshi, Donkey Kong
2.8: Roy
2.1: Kirby
1.8: Mr. Game and Watch
1.6: Pichu, Bowser
1.3: Mewtwo
Though this was the first tier list, Smash World Forums was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages." The term "F/F/S" (short for "Falco, Fox and Sheik") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier. Members on Smashboards, perhaps in backlash against novice sentiment towards Roy and Link, generally disdained those characters, and generally favored the game's fastest character.
Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of Mewtwo, which they felt to be too low. Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low or even middle tier character and were miffed that he, despite his great recovery and powerful throws, was placed at the bottom of bottom tier, where most people believed Bowser belonged (due to his great lack of speed).
Second tier list (December 19, 2002)
For the second tier list, the Melee Back Room not only averaged the votes for every character to determine a tier list, but also calculated the mode of characters' placements.
Mean
1-Sheik (2.2)
2-Fox (2.3)
3-Falco (3.9)
4-Peach (4.4)
5-Marth (4.7)
6-Mario (8.5)
7-Dr. Mario (8.8)
8-Samus (9.6)
9-Luigi (10.0)
10-Ganondorf and Jigglypuff (11.0)
11-Captain Falcon and Ice Climbers (13.0)
12-Zelda, Ness and Link (15.0)
13-Pikachu (16.0)
14-Yoshi and Young Link (17.0)
15-Roy and Donkey Kong (20.0)
16-Mr. Game and Watch, Kirby and Bowser (21.0)
17-Mewtwo (23.0)
18-Pichu (24.0)
Mode
Sheik - 1
Fox - 2
Falco - 3
Peach - 4
Marth - 5
Zelda - 5
Samus - 6
Ganondorf - 7
Dr.Mario - 9
Mario - 10
Jigglypuff - 10
C.Falcon - 11
Luigi - 12
Ice Climbers - 13
Link - 14
Y.Link - 15
Ness - 16
Yoshi - 18
Pikachu - 20
Bowser - 22
Roy - 23
DK - 23
Kirby - 24
Mewtwo - 24
Pichu - 25
Game&Watch - 26
Third tier list (June 23, 2003)
Top Tier
- Sheik
- Fox
- Falco
- Marth
- Peach
Upper Tier
- Mario
- Dr. Mario
- Luigi
- Samus
- Jigglypuff
- Captain Falcon
- Ganondorf
Middle Tier
- Ice Climbers
- Yoshi
- Ness
- Pikachu
- Roy
- Link
- Young Link
- Zelda
- Donkey Kong
Bottom Tier
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Kirby
- Mewtwo
- Pichu
- Bowser
This tier list was released soon after Ken Hoang won Tournament Go 4. Before Ken, Marth strategy largely encompassed rolling and C-stick smashing symptomatic of low-level play today, but Ken introduced to the community the uses of dash-dancing, chain throwing and aerial attacks, all techniques that largely favored Marth and moved him to top tier for years to come.
Fourth tier list (July 1, 2003)
Top Tier:
- Sheik
- Fox
- Marth
- Peach
Upper Tier:
- Falco
- Samus
- Mario/Dr. Mario
- Jigglypuff
- Ganondorf
- Captain Falcon
- Luigi
Middle Tier
- Pikachu
- Yoshi
- Ice Climbers
- Zelda
- Ness
- Link/Young Link
- Roy
Lower Tier
- Donkey Kong
- Mr. Game and Watch
- Kirby
Bottom Tier
- Mewtwo
- Pichu
- Bowser
Fifth tier list (September 29, 2003)
Top Tier
- Sheik
- Marth
Upper Tier
- Fox
- Peach
- Falco
High Tier
- Samus
- Captain Falcon
- Ganondorf
- Mario
- Dr. Mario
- Jigglypuff
- Luigi
Middle Tier
- Yoshi
- Link
- Roy
- Pikachu
- Young Link
- Ice Climbers
- Zelda
Low Tier
- Ness
- Kirby
- Donkey Kong
- Mewtwo
Bottom Tier
- Mr. Game and Watch
- Pichu
- Bowser
Sixth tier list (April Fools: March 31, 2004)
Top Tier
- Sheik
- Jigglypuff
Upper Tier
- Fox
- Captain Falcon
- Falco
- Link
High Tier
- Marth
- Roy
- Peach
- Luigi
- Ice Climbers
Middle Tier
- Ganondorf
- Samus
- Mewtwo
- Ness
- Mario
- Dr. Mario
Low Tier
- Young Link
- Kirby
- Pikachu
- Mr. Game and Watch
- Donkey Kong
Bottom Tier
- Zelda
- Pichu
- Bowser
This tier list doubled as an April Fools joke and a lesson to the community to not blindly swallow the Melee Back Room tier list as the truth. Though most people suspected this tier list was a hoax, it set a precedent to criticizing the tier list that had not existed before.
To "defend" this hoax during the two tumultuous days it was the official tier list, Melee Back Room members argued that Marth was too slow to remain in the top two tiers, that Link had untapped aerial prowess, and that Jigglypuff, through speed and the Wall of Pain, ruled the air to the point of domination.
The Melee Back Room forgot to include Yoshi in this tier list; once people realized he was missing, the MBR placed him in middle tier, between Ness and Mario.
Sixth tier list (real version: April 2, 2004)
Top Tier:
- Sheik
- Fox
- Marth
Upper Tier:
- Falco
- Peach
- Captain Falcon
- Samus
- Jigglypuff
High Tier:
- Ganondorf
- Mario
- Dr. Mario
- Luigi
Middle Tier:
- Link
- Pikachu
- Ice Climbers
- Roy
- Zelda
- Young Link
- Yoshi
Lower Tier:
- Ness
- Donkey Kong
- Kirby
- Mr. Game and Watch
- Mewtwo
Bottom Tier:
- Bowser
- Pichu
Seventh tier list (March 19, 2005)
Top Tier:
- Sheik
- Fox
- Marth
Upper Tier:
- Peach
- Falco
- C. Falcon
- Samus
High Tier:
- Jigglypuff
- Dr. Mario
- Ganondorf
- Mario
- Ice Climbers
Middle Tier:
- Luigi
- Link
- Roy
- Donkey Kong
- Pikachu
- Zelda
Low Tier:
- Ness
- Young Link
- Yoshi
- Kirby
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Bowser
Bottom Tier:
- Mewtwo
- Pichu
Eighth tier list (July 8, 2006)
This is the current tier list.
Top Tier:
- Fox
- Falco
High Tier:
- Sheik
- Marth
- Peach
Middle Tier:
- Captain Falcon
- Ice Climbers
- Samus
- Dr. Mario
- Jigglypuff
- Mario
- Ganondorf
Low Tier:
- Link
- Luigi
- Donkey Kong
- Roy
- Young Link
- Pikachu
Bottom Tier:
- Yoshi
- Zelda
- Mr. Game and Watch
- Ness
- Bowser
- Kirby
- Pichu
- Mewtwo
Note: the names of these tiers were originally called God Tier, Top Tier, High Tier, Middle Tier, and Low Tier; these names were changed to the ones shown above on July 10th, two days after the tier list was released.
