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'''YES, I MAIN THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME. I KNOW SHE GOT CRIPPLED BY PATCH [[1.1.1]], I KNOW SHE'S NOT POPULAR NEITHER AT A HIGH-LEVEL PLAY NOR AT A LOW- OR MID-LEVEL, AND SHE'LL POSSIBLY WON'T GET BUFFED, AND I STILL MAIN HER. YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT? NO, RIGHT? THEN BE QUIET. THANKS AND ENJOY WHAT YOU'LL READ BELOW :v''' | '''YES, I MAIN THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME. I KNOW SHE GOT CRIPPLED BY PATCH [[1.1.1]], I KNOW SHE'S NOT POPULAR NEITHER AT A HIGH-LEVEL PLAY NOR AT A LOW- OR MID-LEVEL, AND SHE'LL POSSIBLY WON'T GET BUFFED, AND I STILL MAIN HER. YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT? NO, RIGHT? THEN BE QUIET. THANKS AND ENJOY WHAT YOU'LL READ BELOW :v''' | ||
S'up everybody, my name is Edward and I'm just your average smasher. My favorite videogame universes in general would be the {{uv|Mario}}, {{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}, {{uv|Pokémon}}, {{uv|Game & Watch}}, {{uv|Kid Icarus}} and {{uv|Final Fantasy}}. I've been playing the Smash Bros. series since Melee came out (though it's been a long time since then, and I'm very bad at this game), though I started to play competitively since SSB4 came out, maining mai waifu, Lady Palutena, since the very beginning. I regularly watch streams from [[VGBootCamp]], [[CLASH Tournaments]] or [[Tourney Locator]], mainly Melee and SSB4 streams. | S'up everybody, my name is Edward and I'm just your average smasher. My favorite videogame universes in general would be the {{uv|Mario}}, {{uv|The Legend of Zelda}}, {{uv|Pokémon}}, {{uv|Game & Watch}}, {{uv|Kid Icarus}} and {{uv|Final Fantasy}}. I've been playing the Smash Bros. series since Melee came out (though it's been a long time since then, and I'm very bad at this game), though I started to play competitively since SSB4 came out, maining mai waifu, Lady Palutena, since the very beginning. I regularly watch streams from [[VGBootCamp]], [[CLASH Tournaments]], Most Valuable Gaming or [[Tourney Locator]], mainly Melee and SSB4 streams. | ||
My region is pretty new to the SSB4 scene, with only our best players having to travel outside of the region to smash it out on other places like Jalisco or Mexico City. Though there have been more Smash tournaments, and I've been a regular sight since then. I'm considered in my region to be one of the best Palutena players, and possibly the only one that uses her competitively, employing a playstyle that focuses more on acting -but not being- reckless with her (though I pivot grab much less often) and wait until the opponent reacts to that so they drop their guard and I can make my move, instead of directly deciding to turtle or "shield at close range" so I can find and opening. I combine that with all my options such as B-reversed [[Autoreticle]], [[Reflect Barrier]], and the ocassional ledge-cancelled [[Warp]]. So far, it works. | My region is pretty new to the SSB4 scene, with only our best players having to travel outside of the region to smash it out on other places like Jalisco or Mexico City. Though there have been more Smash tournaments, and I've been a regular sight since then. I'm considered in my region to be one of the best Palutena players, and possibly the only one that uses her competitively, employing a playstyle that focuses more on acting -but not being- reckless with her (though I pivot grab much less often) and wait until the opponent reacts to that so they drop their guard and I can make my move, instead of directly deciding to turtle or "shield at close range" so I can find and opening. I combine that with all my options such as B-reversed [[Autoreticle]], [[Reflect Barrier]], and the ocassional ledge-cancelled [[Warp]]. So far, it works. | ||
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!colspan="2"|Character competency chart -- SSB4 | !colspan="2"|Character competency chart -- SSB4 | ||
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|[[File:Matchup(+4)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:PalutenaIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:MrGame&WatchIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:RoyIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] | |[[File:Matchup(+4)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:PalutenaIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|My favorite female character in videogames since 2011, especially thanks to '''Palutena's Revolting Dinner''', this beautiful girl is my most played character, since the very beginning of the game's lifespan. I remember when she was first considered a mid-tier... now she is going down to the point even my region says she's boring to play, watch, and that she's the absolute worst. Even worse, that she doesn't deserve customs. So since Mewtwo's return, I've tried to prove everyone wrong, and been watching Iceninja, my favorite player with her, so I can improve my abilities with her. I also would love her to be "Shulk" or "Ike" levels of buffed. Obviously I love her side taunt.]] [[File:MrGame&WatchIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|My main since Brawl, because of his quirky nature, especially when he taunts. Love to troll with him and use him online. His combos, Judge and bucket gimmicks are my favorite part about him. GimR and Regi are my favorite players of him :v]] [[File:RoyIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Since Melee, I liked Roy over Marth because of his sword's flame effects. Now that I grew up, I realized he was bad. Now that he's in SSB4, I decided to main him since he was tremendously buffed. Not many players of him, though Sethlon is pretty good.]] | ||
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|[[File:Matchup(+3)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:IkeIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:CaptainFalconIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:JigglypuffIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:GanondorfIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:ROBIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:FalcoIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] | |[[File:Matchup(+3)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:IkeIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I've fought for my friends with him since Brawl. Like Ryo, I switched to him in Brawl and SSB4 when I learned Roy was not on the roster. Ryo and San are my favorite players of him.]] [[File:CaptainFalconIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|While not as aggresive or stylish as other players like Lythero, z0mfg or ZeRo, I like to play as him, ever since Melee. My favorite move from him is his up tilt.]] [[File:JigglypuffIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|When I was a young lad, I really liked how Jigglypuff was depicted in the anime, and since I remembered those old days, I decided to use her in SSB4. Hungrybox, if you're reading this, keep playing with her in SSB4 tournaments...]] [[File:GanondorfIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|This is a very special case since I would like to say that Omega Tyrant inspired me to play as him. The disrespect. The power. The dark side. Best Nintendo villain ever.]] [[File:ROBIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|OT also inspired me to play as him. Especially since he was buffed from Brawl. Though this time, my favorite player with him is Holy.]] [[File:FalcoIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I've liked Falco more than Fox, ever since Brawl. As he no longer has chaingrabs to his favor, I consider him to be more balanced and fitting to my playstyle (though that laser nerf did hurt a lot). I do think he has potential, but lacks tournament results to prove it.]] | ||
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|[[File:Matchup(+2)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:LuigiIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:BowserJrIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:DonkeyKongIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:LittleMacIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:KingDededeIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:MetaKnightIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:CharizardIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:NessIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:ShulkIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:RyuIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:MiiBrawlerIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:MiiSwordfighterIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] | |[[File:Matchup(+2)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:LuigiIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I've never won with Weegee by doing absolutely nothing, but pretty fun to play as him. I like to troll unaware For Glory players by edge-trumping then down taunting on the edge.]] [[File:BowserJrIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I started to use him (as Roy) since FE's Roy returned from Melee. Also, one of my friends and top players from my region uses Bowser Jr., so he mostly inspired me to keep improving with him.]] [[File:DonkeyKongIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|EXPAND DONG.]] [[File:LittleMacIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I'm not the common Mac player. I've watched Chota, StylesX2 and Sol to keep improving. And I don't like to dash attack a lot with him.]] [[File:KingDededeIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Another character OT inspired me to play as. He's pretty fun to use. I obviousle spam his infamous crouch. But I miss his previous back aerial.]] [[File:MetaKnightIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|At first I didn't think a lot about him, but I've used him recently and came to the conclusion he's still broken. A friend uses him extremely cleanly, I always have to watch out for him pivot grabbing me with Meta Knight. MK Leo and Tyrant are my favorite players of him.]] [[File:CharizardIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|FLARE BLITZ 4 DAYS. My favorite player of him is IntroSpecktive.]] [[File:NessIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I don't like spammy Ness mains. I tend to play him non-spammer, but only for trolling purpouses.]] [[File:ShulkIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I only play him when I'm really feeling it. AND HE IS VERY HARD TO USE (possibly the hardest character in this game due to his frame data issues unlike Ryu). But still fun to use.]] [[File:RyuIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Originally, I started to play with him recently because I wanted to know the matchup. And I also like to SURE-YOU-CAN my opponents with him. May noty be as good as Trela, but still improving.]] [[File:MiiBrawlerIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I originally played as it for fun (not the online setting), but after watching Mew2King and Dapuffster, I decided to use it more seriously. My personal Mii Brawler is Goku on a Fighter Uniform, and my build is the not surprising 2122.]] [[File:MiiSwordfighterIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I don't think it is the worst Mii. It has a lot of versatility in its special moveset. My personal Mii Swordfighter is my Mii on a Ninja Outfit, and my build is 2131.]] | ||
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|[[File:Matchup(+1)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:MarioIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:DrMarioIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px | |[[File:Matchup(+1)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:MarioIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Pretty balanced... AND BROKEN. Ally has demonstrated it.]] [[File:DrMarioIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Not the worst character IMHO, Nairo demonstrated that on MLG. He's more balanced than in Melee. But i still think he's mid-low tier at best.]] [[File:WarioIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Not fun to play against, but fun to play as. Abadango is my favorite player from him.]] [[File:DiddyKongIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|HOO HAH. (No longer have a pocket Diddy since 1.0.8, but still think he's top tier because of his excellent neutral game.)]] [[File:LinkIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px| I only use Link since I want to know the matchup. I also hate spammy Links. And finally, his Gale Boomerang should stop pulling opponents towards him with that strength, or be replaced with the normal Boomerang.]] [[File:PitIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|If I know how to use Palu, then I know (more or less) how to use Pit as well. Earth is my favorite player of him.]] [[File:DarkPitIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|OW THE EDGE. (same as Pit but I have slightly more experience with him)]] [[File:LucarioIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I use him pretty much for fun. Not much to say.]] [[File:MewtwoIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I originally thought he was buffed from Melee and that he would be better than his previous iteration. I was wrong. But Mewtwo still has many things going up for him. He just needs more combo ability like in Melee and his hitboxes matching their attack trails and that's it: many Mewtwo problems solved.]] [[File:LucasIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Unlike Ness, he is fun to play as, and I don't mind playing against him; since his learning curve is higher, I respect people more for not using a braindead character]] [[File:SonicIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|GOTTA GO FAST, GOTTA GO FAST, GOTTA GO FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER FASTER (electric guitar) :v]] [[File:MiiGunnerIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Not much to say about it, only that it is my least used Mii, but still like to use it. My personal Mii is Proto Man on his armor, and my build is 1213, but its a shame this build is not "official".]] | ||
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|[[File:Matchup(0)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File: | |[[File:Matchup(0)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:BowserIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I originally used him since the release, but no more since I found him to be unfitting and still slow, even though he was heavily buffed.]] [[File:ZeroSuitSamusIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Dose up aerial, Boost Kick and Flip Jump's meteor kick need nerfs. I also have a friend that uses her very clean, which is the same one that uses Meta Knight.]] [[File:MarthIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I only play him to know the matchup because the same friend that uses Meta Knight also uses Marth with a lot of precision. I tend to be caught off guard by his mains.]] [[File:LucinaIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Same as Marth, but unlike him, Lucy doesn't catch me off-guard as often as him. And she is much cuter.]] [[File:RobinIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Only tip the scales with him for fun purpouses.]] [[File:DuckHuntIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|DAT INFAMOUS LAUGHTER IN SLAUGHTER.]] [[File:FoxIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|He is very hard to use, so that's why I prefer Falco over Fox.]] [[File:GreninjaIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I used to main him alongside Toon Link, Ike, G&W and Palu to try to determine whether which of them would be my mains, but dropped him, due to his polarized frame data. He is crazy to watch though, in a good manner, especially with aMSa.]] [[File:Pac-ManIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Only use him for trolling purpouses, since he is very hard to use. I love watching Abadango to play as him, though, so shoutouts to him for knowing how to play as Pac-Man.]] | ||
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|[[File:Matchup(-1)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:RosalinaIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:YoshiIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:SamusIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:VillagerIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:MegaManIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] | |[[File:Matchup(-1)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:RosalinaIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I dislike this character's playstyle, I think they could have done a lot better with her if Luma didn't accompany her. I also dislike to play against her. And her jab cancel and Gentlestar's power NEED TO DISSAPAEAR FROM THIS UNIVERSE.]] [[File:YoshiIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|He is pretty hard to use so I don't play as Yoshi, but overall I don't mind playing against him.]] [[File:ToonLinkIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Not used to him since the game's release, and dropped him since I found him to be unfitting for me after a while, unlike Link. Though I still think he is the superior Link.]] [[File:SheikIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Meh. Very boring to watch her, except if it's Mr. R or ZeRo. Dude she also needs nerfs, especially to her forward aerial's range and landing lag.]] [[File:SamusIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|...does she still exist in the game?]] [[File:VillagerIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|KILL THEM. KILL THEM ALL. I have a friend that mains him, which is the same friend that uses Meta Knight, Marth and ZSS. Outside of that topic, Ranai is my favorite player of him.]] [[File:MegaManIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|I used him in the demo version and loved to play as him, because he is my favorite newcomer alongside Cloud Strife and Palu. But his playstyle was unfitting for me. Unlike Rosie, I don't mind playing against him. My favorite player of him is StylesX2.]] | ||
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|[[File:Matchup(-2)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:PeachIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:ZeldaIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:WiiFitTrainerIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] | |[[File:Matchup(-2)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:PeachIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Her playstyle is harder for me to master unlike Ryu's and Shulk's due to all her gimmicks like floating, Vegetable chances and quirky frame data. I also dislike her extremely clean aerial game.]] [[File:ZeldaIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Don't get me wrong, I love Zelda, but she is unfitting for me :/]] [[File:WiiFitTrainerIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Like Peach and Zelda, unfitting for me.]] | ||
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|[[File:Matchup(-3)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:KirbyIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:PikachuIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] [[File:OlimarIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px]] | |[[File:Matchup(-3)9T.png|25px]]||style="text-align:center"| [[File:KirbyIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Since the game's releasse, I dislike Kirby with a passion since I think he is better than Brawl due to the removal of hitstun cancelling. And also because of his squeakier voice. I always sigh of relief when I defeat his players. It's ironic I dislike him in SSB4 since I liked him in Brawl.]] [[File:PikachuIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|Same as Kirby, but on a more exaggerated tone when it comes to acknowledging he is better than in Brawl. Respect to those who mastered his frame data, though.]] [[File:OlimarIcon(SSB4-U).png|50px|My most disliked character since Brawl, but this is due to personal conflicts explained above, on a different section. Quick frame data, strong smashes, small size, he has combos, a kill throw, excellent recovery and because of this, he seems to never die. I HATE OLIMAR. Sorry if this offends you.]] | ||
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*Some of my old and most played characters were {{SSB4|Toon Link}} (who I ironically play worse han Link), {{SSB4|Greninja}} and {{SSB4|Little Mac}}. | *Some of my old and most played characters were {{SSB4|Toon Link}} (who I ironically play worse han Link), {{SSB4|Greninja}} and {{SSB4|Little Mac}}. | ||
*I played as {{SSB4|Link}} and {{SSB4|Mega Man}} in the demo but stopped playing as them because I loved to play more as my mains when I got the full version. | *I played as {{SSB4|Link}} and {{SSB4|Mega Man}} in the demo but stopped playing as them because I loved to play more as my mains when I got the full version. | ||
*I do like Rosie outside of Smash, but I play her mediocrely | *I do like Rosie outside of Smash, but I dislike her playstyle and as a result, I play her mediocrely. Same with Mega Man (as mentioned above). | ||
*I dislike playing against {{SSB4|Wario}}, but I actually play him than others like {{SSB4|Pikachu}}. He is also fun to play as. | *I dislike playing against {{SSB4|Wario}}, but I actually play him than others like {{SSB4|Pikachu}}. He is also fun to play as. | ||
*{{Sm|Nairo}} indirectly convinced me of playing {{SSB4|Dr. Mario}}. | *{{Sm|Nairo}} indirectly convinced me of playing {{SSB4|Dr. Mario}}. | ||
*Although I sometimes play the character (though this is just for troll purpouses), I dislike playing against {{SSB4|Ness}} because he is braindead (he has a low learning curve to play him decently) and has a lot of people that main him. | *Although I sometimes play the character (though this is just for troll purpouses), I dislike playing against {{SSB4|Ness}} because he is braindead (he has a low learning curve to play him decently) and has a lot of people that main him. | ||
*Similar to Ness, even though I sometimes play the character (though this is just for troll purpouses), I dislike playing against {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}} because she is braindead (she has a low learning curve to play her decently), she can easily be disrespectful to you and because she has a lot of people that main her! I do not dislike people that main her tho, and I actually like the character a lot outside of Smash. | *Similar to Ness, even though I sometimes play the character (though this is just for troll purpouses), I dislike playing against {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}} because she is braindead (she has a low learning curve to play her decently), she can easily be disrespectful to you and because she has a lot of people that main her! I do not dislike people that main her tho, and I actually like the character a lot outside of Smash. | ||
==If patch 1.1.3 was released...== | |||
This is what I would want for Palu so she would be more balanced (this includes nerfing her customs). I know it's a lot but remember Shulk and Ike were heavily buffed by updates: | |||
*{{buff|Jab comes out faster (frame 8 → frame 5).}} | |||
*{{buff|Forward tilt has reduced startup lag (16 → 13 frames) and decreased endlag (29 → 26 frames).}} | |||
*{{buff|Up tilt has additional hitboxes below her staff, so small characters can no longer avoid the move.}} | |||
*{{buff|Down tilt has reduced startup (13 → 10 frames) and can now hit ledge hanging opponents.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Down tilt's sweetspot deals slightly less damage (8.5 → 8%).}} | |||
*{{buff|Dash attack has drastically reduced endlag (35 → 27 frames).}} | |||
*{{buff|Forward smash's hitbox has a slightly longer duration (2 → 3 frames) and has less endlag (48 → 39 frames).}} | |||
*{{buff|Up smash has less ending lag (43 frames → 40 frames).}} | |||
*{{buff|Down smash's has an added hitbox on the tip of the wings (letting it hit opponents on the ledge). The late hit also lasts for 1 more frame. It also has much less endlag (53 → 41 frames).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Clean hit of down smash has less knockback growth (103 → 99).}} | |||
*{{change|Clean hit of down smash's angle changed (60° → 45°).}} | |||
*{{buff|Neutral air now autocancels in a short hop.}} | |||
*{{change|Neutral air has increased base knockback (20 → 75).}} | |||
*{{change|Neutral air has an added hitbox on landing that does 1%. This removes her possible setups into other moves but makes the move harder to punish upon her landing.}} | |||
*{{buff|Forward air has less endlag (34 → 25 frames).}} | |||
*{{buff|Back air is stronger (30/92 → 42/98) and has reduced endlag (41 → 32 frames).}} | |||
*{{buff|Up air now properly autocancels in the last frames (frame 64 → 36) and has reduced landing lag (24 → 20 frames). Finishing hit also deals 1% more *damage (9 → 10%).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Up air has less knockback growth (152 → 140).}} | |||
*{{buff|Down air now lasts for longer (frame 10 → frame 9-11) and autocancels earlier (frame 48 → 38).}} | |||
*{{buff|Back throw is stronger (65/70 → 70/75) and its angle has been changed (Sakurai angle → 45°).}} | |||
*{{buff|Autorecticle's projectiles target the opponent for more time (frame 8 → frames 8-10), and come out faster (frames 30/36/42 → 24/30/36).}} | |||
*{{buff|Reflect Barrier has less endlag (48 → 36 frames) with the barrier's reflecting time unchanged, letting her move out of it.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Super Speed's cooldown time increased (3 → 5 seconds).}} | |||
*{{buff|Warp has an added windbox that pushes opponents away from frame 10-16.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Jump Glide lasts for a shorter time.}} | |||
*{{buff|Jump Glide no longer leaves Palutena helpless should she be hit during the move.}} | |||
*{{buff|Counter has lost the sourspot it previously had, and the attack has more KO power (40/75 → 48/100). It also has less ending lag if it fails (44 → 25 frames) and if it connects.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Lightweight's reverse effect time increased (5 seconds → 7 seconds), though its cooldown time was reduced to compensate (10 seconds → 8 seconds.) | |||
*{{change|Like Pit, she now has "comical" sound effects instead of "realistic" ones when she trips.}} | |||
