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== NES Classic ==
== NES Classic ==


Will those games be put on there or not?
Will those games be put on there or not? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:50.164.95.83|50.164.95.83]] ([[User talk:50.164.95.83|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/50.164.95.83|contribs]]) 22:38 12 November 2016 (EST)</small>
:First, please sign your comments with four <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Second, they shouldn't be, since they're essentially redistributions of existing games, like Virtual Console rereleases or (arguably) Nintendo Selects editions. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 00:26, 13 November 2016 (EST)
 
== Quick question ==
 
I know [[#NES Classic|something similar to this]] was brought up before, but I think this is worth mentioning:
 
Nintendo sent out [https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/879369032947847168 this tweet], and it mentions ''Star Fox 2'', a game that never actually saw the light of day. So because of this loophole, does that make it viable for this list? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 13:04, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
:I would honestly consider it viable, considering it was never officially released, but I'd count it as "Star Fox 2" rather than "SNES Classic". That's just my opinion, anyway. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 13:17, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
::Yea, it would be considered "Star Fox 2". [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:18, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
:::Yes, it counts, since for all intents and purposes it's a "new" release. I'd count it as the "newest" appearance for Star Fox characters and the universe page, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:57, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
 
== Update this ==
 
For the new direct. [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 23:20, September 4, 2019 (EDT)
 
== Should Super Nintendo World count? ==
If we don't count movies as part of this, then should Super Nintendo World count, seeing as it's non-gaming media? I guess you could count the app, but still. This probably isn't too big a deal, but I figured I'd ask, since this is a bit more widely-used than most other user pages. ~ [[User:StrawberryChan|<span style="color: #e68;">'''StrawberryChan'''</span>]] ([[User talk:StrawberryChan|talk]]) 21:32, December 19, 2020 (EST)
:At most the app is a borderline case. The park itself is not. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:24, December 19, 2020 (EST)
:I think the app like super Mario run and the Pokémon apps, count. [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 00:59, December 25, 2020 (EST)
 
== About minor universes ==
 
While I'm aware that this page is mainly focused on major universes or characters from minor universes that have their own articles (i.e. Mii Costumes), you gotta keep in mind that the pages focusing on the minor ''Smash'' universes (such as the [[List of minor Nintendo universes|Nintendo page]] and [[List of minor third-party universes|third-party page]]) also have the "latest installments" section in their infoboxes, meaning they too have to be updated whenever a new installment releases.
 
Considering someone else [[User:TheNuttyOne/List of minor universe releases|already made a userpage that focuses on minor universe releases]], should this page at least acknowledge that userpage? [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 15:55, February 19, 2021 (EST)
:I see no reason that said info couldn't be managed here as well. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:59, February 19, 2021 (EST)
 
::So can we merge NuttyOne's page with this one? [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 17:22, February 19, 2021 (EST)
:::It's not my userpage, so I would ask first, but yeah. I see no reason to track them across separate pages. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:23, February 19, 2021 (EST)
::::Alright, I just asked them about this. They haven't been too terribly active lately, so don't be surprised if their response may take a while. [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 17:29, February 19, 2021 (EST)
 
== Kingdom Hearts Switch cloud port ==
 
Should the Switch cloud ports of the Kingdom Hearts games be listed on here? We previously counted the Switch port of Tropical Freeze as an appearance for Diddy Kong, but I could see how this is different for being a cloud version. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 21:39, October 15, 2021 (EDT)
:Actually, scratch that. From what I'm hearing there's nothing different about these ports and we didn't count the PC port of Persona 4 Golden for its characters, so this probably shouldn't either. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 21:41, October 15, 2021 (EDT)
 
== Pokeball  ==
 
Why don’t Pokeball summons count for this upcoming stuff? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 04:39, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
:The template for the Pokémon who appear via the Poké Ball item don't have a parameter (or, frankly, a need) for a "latest appearance" game. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 04:40, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
::That, and considering there have been nearly 100 Poké Ball Pokémon all throughout the ''Smash'' series (plus the ones that've appeared as enemies and stage hazards), updating every single one of their Latest Appearance parameters would just be an absolute hectic nightmare. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 05:27, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
::I actually [[Forum:Expanding certain character infobox templates|did propose]] adding a "latest appearance" parameter, among others, to the Pokémon, enemy, item and boss templates a while back, so I thought that I should bring this up again. Since Pokémon now aren't guaranteed to appear in every main Pokémon game, I question the assertion that their latest appearance doesn't need to be tracked. --[[User:Rdrfc|Rdrfc]] ([[User talk:Rdrfc|talk]]) 06:00, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
:::Bump because Scarlet and Violet are coming out soon. [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 02:50, August 5, 2022 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 01:51, August 5, 2022

Wolf and Leon[edit]

I heard Star Wolf is confirmed for Star Fox Zero. Should Wolf and Leon be included considering the fact that their Wolfen can be seen in the trailer? ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 14:39, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

Last I saw, the only Star Wolf character that had been seen outright in prerelease stuff was Pigma. I assume the Star Fox Zero line will be expanded significantly, though, once the game is closer to coming out. Miles (talk) 15:19, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
Somewhat related; rumor has it Rosalina is in the new Mario & Sonic game. Allegedly, there was photographic evidence, but the only place I can direct you is the discussion page for said game on the MarioWiki. Aidanzapunksignature.pngAidan, Master of Speed and AuraAidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG 15:33, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
Certainly plausible, but that game isn't coming out for a while and I'm in no rush to add things that aren't pretty verifiably confirmed. Miles (talk) 15:38, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
That's fair. Aidanzapunksignature.pngAidan, Master of Speed and AuraAidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG 15:44, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
I mean, that makes sense, but wouldn't it make more sense to have them before they're officially confirmed rather than forget to add them later? Since this isn't mainspace. Particularly Wolf, who I would be very shocked if he wasn't in. Rosalina and Leon are likely too, but not as. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 15:51, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
I have to oppose adding Wolf and Leon just in case. Maybe we could add a note like "watch for Wolf and Leon" as a compromise? Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 15:58, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
I'm keeping this page reasonably up to date. No need to worry. Miles (talk) 16:49, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
I looked closely to the trailer and I saw Wolfen marked with the letters "W", "L", and "A", probably meaning Wolf, Leon, and Andrew. Also, this tweet by one of the developers confirmed it so. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 23:32, 6 October 2015 (EDT)
Again, I assume the Star Fox 64 members of Star Wolf will all appear, but am waiting to add them until they are seen in footage. Miles (talk) 23:40, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

Bowser Jr in Mario Tennis Ultra Smash[edit]

According to Mariowiki, Bowser Jr will appear in Mario Tennis Ultra Smash as an unlockable character. The source was a Gamespot video depicting his silhouette was eventually made private. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 20:55, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

I'll wait until I can verify it myself to add him. Miles (talk) 21:14, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
I saw the video myself and can verify that it was pretty clearly his silhouette. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 21:26, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
The video was taken down, but I can email you the screenshot of the roster, if you'd like, Miles. Aidanzapunksignature.pngAidan, Master of Speed and AuraAidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG 21:27, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
Actually, screenshots should already exist online... maybe even copied videos. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 21:28, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
You mean like this? Aidanzapunksignature.pngAidan, Master of Speed and AuraAidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG 21:31, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
Ha, I was about to link that myself. Yup, exactly. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 21:32, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

(Reset indent) Real talk tho

Rosalina's outfit brah Aidanzapunksignature.pngAidan, Master of Speed and AuraAidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG 21:34, 23 October 2015 (EDT)

Been shipping Rosalina X Bowser Jr. since Smash 4. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 23:07, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
Okay I don't know what happened to this talk page section but uh. Take it anywhere but here. Please. Miles (talk) 23:18, 23 October 2015 (EDT)
Sorry, I usually don't use talk pages for this. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is made in America 00:45, 24 October 2015 (EDT)
Oh and one more thing, do you allow other users to edit this userpage? Because I already saw one person adding something. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 13:05, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
Only if you give a very clear explanation on the talk page or edit summary, and I still reserve the right to revert it. Miles (talk) 13:22, 28 October 2015 (EDT)

E3[edit]

Plz add Moar about the e3 games I edited and plz add Mario party:star rush 73.52.84.159 15:31, 24 June 2016 (EDT)

Console[edit]

Wanna ad these upcoming consoles by the way Miles?

NES Classic[edit]

Will those games be put on there or not? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.164.95.83 (talkcontribs) 22:38 12 November 2016 (EST)

First, please sign your comments with four ~~~~. Second, they shouldn't be, since they're essentially redistributions of existing games, like Virtual Console rereleases or (arguably) Nintendo Selects editions. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 00:26, 13 November 2016 (EST)

Quick question[edit]

I know something similar to this was brought up before, but I think this is worth mentioning:

Nintendo sent out this tweet, and it mentions Star Fox 2, a game that never actually saw the light of day. So because of this loophole, does that make it viable for this list? AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 13:04, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

I would honestly consider it viable, considering it was never officially released, but I'd count it as "Star Fox 2" rather than "SNES Classic". That's just my opinion, anyway. Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 13:17, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
Yea, it would be considered "Star Fox 2". AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 14:18, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
Yes, it counts, since for all intents and purposes it's a "new" release. I'd count it as the "newest" appearance for Star Fox characters and the universe page, but I'm open to being convinced otherwise. Miles (talk) 15:57, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

Update this[edit]

For the new direct. 174.55.24.64 23:20, September 4, 2019 (EDT)

Should Super Nintendo World count?[edit]

If we don't count movies as part of this, then should Super Nintendo World count, seeing as it's non-gaming media? I guess you could count the app, but still. This probably isn't too big a deal, but I figured I'd ask, since this is a bit more widely-used than most other user pages. ~ StrawberryChan (talk) 21:32, December 19, 2020 (EST)

At most the app is a borderline case. The park itself is not. Miles (talk) 22:24, December 19, 2020 (EST)
I think the app like super Mario run and the Pokémon apps, count. 174.55.24.64 00:59, December 25, 2020 (EST)

About minor universes[edit]

While I'm aware that this page is mainly focused on major universes or characters from minor universes that have their own articles (i.e. Mii Costumes), you gotta keep in mind that the pages focusing on the minor Smash universes (such as the Nintendo page and third-party page) also have the "latest installments" section in their infoboxes, meaning they too have to be updated whenever a new installment releases.

Considering someone else already made a userpage that focuses on minor universe releases, should this page at least acknowledge that userpage? SmashTurtlesSig1.pngSuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle TribeSmashTurtlesSig2.png 15:55, February 19, 2021 (EST)

I see no reason that said info couldn't be managed here as well. Miles (talk) 15:59, February 19, 2021 (EST)
So can we merge NuttyOne's page with this one? SmashTurtlesSig1.pngSuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle TribeSmashTurtlesSig2.png 17:22, February 19, 2021 (EST)
It's not my userpage, so I would ask first, but yeah. I see no reason to track them across separate pages. Miles (talk) 17:23, February 19, 2021 (EST)
Alright, I just asked them about this. They haven't been too terribly active lately, so don't be surprised if their response may take a while. SmashTurtlesSig1.pngSuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle TribeSmashTurtlesSig2.png 17:29, February 19, 2021 (EST)

Kingdom Hearts Switch cloud port[edit]

Should the Switch cloud ports of the Kingdom Hearts games be listed on here? We previously counted the Switch port of Tropical Freeze as an appearance for Diddy Kong, but I could see how this is different for being a cloud version. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer (talk) 21:39, October 15, 2021 (EDT)

Actually, scratch that. From what I'm hearing there's nothing different about these ports and we didn't count the PC port of Persona 4 Golden for its characters, so this probably shouldn't either. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer (talk) 21:41, October 15, 2021 (EDT)

Pokeball[edit]

Why don’t Pokeball summons count for this upcoming stuff? 174.55.24.64 04:39, May 26, 2022 (EDT)

The template for the Pokémon who appear via the Poké Ball item don't have a parameter (or, frankly, a need) for a "latest appearance" game. Aidan, the Rurouni 04:40, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
That, and considering there have been nearly 100 Poké Ball Pokémon all throughout the Smash series (plus the ones that've appeared as enemies and stage hazards), updating every single one of their Latest Appearance parameters would just be an absolute hectic nightmare. JacketTerraSig1.pngThe Jacketed TerrapinJacketTerraSig2.png 05:27, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
I actually did propose adding a "latest appearance" parameter, among others, to the Pokémon, enemy, item and boss templates a while back, so I thought that I should bring this up again. Since Pokémon now aren't guaranteed to appear in every main Pokémon game, I question the assertion that their latest appearance doesn't need to be tracked. --Rdrfc (talk) 06:00, May 26, 2022 (EDT)
Bump because Scarlet and Violet are coming out soon. 174.55.24.64 02:50, August 5, 2022 (EDT)