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I'm of the opinion that throws that shoot projectiles should not count as a multi-hit throw, but I can see the argument for it. Discuss. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Yoshi 10:08, 13 November 2015 (EST)
I'm of the opinion that throws that shoot projectiles should not count as a multi-hit throw, but I can see the argument for it. Discuss. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Yoshi 10:08, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:I think Fox and Falco's down throws should at least be on there. I don't see a practical difference between them and Charizard's. [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac|talk]]) 10:19, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:I think Fox and Falco's down throws should at least be on there. I don't see a practical difference between them and Charizard's. [[User:Zyrac|Zyrac]] ([[User talk:Zyrac|talk]]) 10:19, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::Well mechanically Fox and Falco shoot projectiles but Charizard doesn't (it's a repeating hitbox like Ness's). My gripe with Falco in particular is that his blaster throws change depending on his neutral custom, which makes things quite messy. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Free 10:26, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:I don't have particularly strong feelings on the subject, but I don't get why those wouldn't fall into the definition of "a throw that does damage in multiple parts." [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 10:22, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:I don't have particularly strong feelings on the subject, but I don't get why those wouldn't fall into the definition of "a throw that does damage in multiple parts." [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 10:22, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:As long as the extra hits are unavoidable, I think they count, as it does fit the raw definition. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #7cfc00;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 10:24, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::My main issue is that the throw itself only does damage once, and then there's some extra stuff on top of that. I mean I wouldn't have a problem if people decide to do that, but it feels to me like they should at least be in their own category on the page or something. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Free 10:26, 13 November 2015 (EST)
Okay so... I was thinking we should include all throws that have at least two hits and exclude any throws that have additional hits after the throw, like the up throws of Fox and Falco and Mewtwo's forward throw. I'm suggesting this because it's easy to DI away from the projectiles. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Gold">'''Drill Blaster'''</span> <span style="color:LightBlue">'''Mark'''</span> <span style="color:Crimson">'''2'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Grey">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:42, 13 November 2015 (EST)
:Fair enough compromise. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #7cfc00;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 16:14, 13 November 2015 (EST)
::I'll probably get to it after I hear what other users have to say. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Gold">'''Drill Blaster'''</span> <span style="color:LightBlue">'''Mark'''</span> <span style="color:Crimson">'''2'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Grey">(talk)</span>]]'' 06:37, 14 November 2015 (EST)
== Multi-hit throws in SSB ==
Since when did ''[[SSB]]'' had multi-hit throws? All I know that it's been there since ''[[Melee]]''.  [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 17:04, 30 November 2015 (EST)
==Throws with a single attacking hitbox shouldn't count==
Should throws with a single attacking hitbox be even included here (not including throws with a single hitbox that deals multiple damage as they still count)? I think multi-hit throws should apply to throws that have more than one attacking hitboxes, like Kirby's down throw and Cloud's up throw. [[User:Juju1995|Juju1995]] ([[User talk:Juju1995|talk]]) 13:38, March 22, 2021 (EDT)
:I think you're taking the title a little '''too''' literally. The main idea behind this article is that it covers any throw which deals damage multiple times to its victim, so the throw would also be considered a "hit" in this case. The very first sentence of the article makes it pretty clear what the article is about, so I don't think this is an issue. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 13:52, March 22, 2021 (EDT)
== Relevance? ==
What purpose does this page have? Wouldn't it be better if not still irrelevant to add that to the throws' pages? I don't see why this page exists in the first place. [[User:Zeckemyro|Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck]] ([[User talk:Zeckemyro|talk]]) 16:41, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 15:41, March 22, 2021

Throws that shoot projectiles[edit]

I'm of the opinion that throws that shoot projectiles should not count as a multi-hit throw, but I can see the argument for it. Discuss. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Yoshi 10:08, 13 November 2015 (EST)

I think Fox and Falco's down throws should at least be on there. I don't see a practical difference between them and Charizard's. Zyrac (talk) 10:19, 13 November 2015 (EST)
Well mechanically Fox and Falco shoot projectiles but Charizard doesn't (it's a repeating hitbox like Ness's). My gripe with Falco in particular is that his blaster throws change depending on his neutral custom, which makes things quite messy. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Free 10:26, 13 November 2015 (EST)
I don't have particularly strong feelings on the subject, but I don't get why those wouldn't fall into the definition of "a throw that does damage in multiple parts." Miles (talk) 10:22, 13 November 2015 (EST)
As long as the extra hits are unavoidable, I think they count, as it does fit the raw definition. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 10:24, 13 November 2015 (EST)
My main issue is that the throw itself only does damage once, and then there's some extra stuff on top of that. I mean I wouldn't have a problem if people decide to do that, but it feels to me like they should at least be in their own category on the page or something. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Free 10:26, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Okay so... I was thinking we should include all throws that have at least two hits and exclude any throws that have additional hits after the throw, like the up throws of Fox and Falco and Mewtwo's forward throw. I'm suggesting this because it's easy to DI away from the projectiles. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 15:42, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Fair enough compromise. Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 16:14, 13 November 2015 (EST)
I'll probably get to it after I hear what other users have to say. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 06:37, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Multi-hit throws in SSB[edit]

Since when did SSB had multi-hit throws? All I know that it's been there since Melee. Juju1995 (talk) 17:04, 30 November 2015 (EST)

Throws with a single attacking hitbox shouldn't count[edit]

Should throws with a single attacking hitbox be even included here (not including throws with a single hitbox that deals multiple damage as they still count)? I think multi-hit throws should apply to throws that have more than one attacking hitboxes, like Kirby's down throw and Cloud's up throw. Juju1995 (talk) 13:38, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

I think you're taking the title a little too literally. The main idea behind this article is that it covers any throw which deals damage multiple times to its victim, so the throw would also be considered a "hit" in this case. The very first sentence of the article makes it pretty clear what the article is about, so I don't think this is an issue. Alex the Weeb 13:52, March 22, 2021 (EDT)

Relevance?[edit]

What purpose does this page have? Wouldn't it be better if not still irrelevant to add that to the throws' pages? I don't see why this page exists in the first place. Hitbox Enthusiast Zeck (talk) 16:41, March 22, 2021 (EDT)