User talk:SonicSpeed48/Archive 1

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Red (talk) 12:36, 27 May 2014 (EDT)

In general, if you have many edits to make to a page (even a long one with many sections), it is better to do so in one edit as opposed to many smaller ones. This prevents cluttering Recent Changes and the page's history. Miles (talk) 00:11, 26 August 2014 (EDT)

Regarding tables

Though you haven't made several consecutive edits, you may still need to use Preview. If you did that, you'll reduce the chance of having to fix that edit or having someone else fix it for you. If you previewed that edit you made in the Character customization page, you would have noticed that your edit threw off Dark Pit's row. If you haven't noticed, Pit's row had a rowspan="2" for the Control Arrow cell. This allows that cell to occupy the next row as well. This was made that way because both had Control Arrow, and as their rows are adjacent, it caused some repetition. Just letting you know. Berrenta (talk) 15:45, 24 September 2014 (EDT)

Wolf Flash

In-game, it's called the "Wolf Flash", not the "Fox Flash". Please do not change it. PikaSamus (talk) 14:57, 7 October 2014 (EDT)

Image Naming

An image name such as "File:Screen Shot 2014-11-18 at 12.49.17 PM.png" is inappropriate and doesn't tell what the image is supposed to be. Please, when uploading images, remember to appropriately name them and appropriately tag them. See SW:IMAGE for more details. Thank you. Rtzxy Reflect! 14:59, 18 November 2014 (EST)

Edits to User:AwesomeLuigi

You're not supposed to edit other user's userpages without their permission, unless it's fixing a moved image link or removing false info/other policy violations. If you want to change something, it's wise to leave a message on their talk page beforehand—if they allow you to (exception to this is fixing an image link, but only if the image was moved already). Just letting you know. If you got permission beforehand to edit, then ignore this message. Rtzxy Reflect! 15:30, 2 December 2014 (EST)

Thanks for editing my chart

Thanks for editing my Brawl character competency chart. --AwesomeLuigi (talk) 17:47, 16 December 2014 (EST)

Hey, no problem dude. By the way, Luigi is one of my mains in the Smash games too (I have yet to play Melee and Project M because I don't have either yet). SonicSpeed48 (talk) 21:50, 16 December 2014 (EST)

On uploading images

1. If you're uploading a screenshot of a Smash game, be sure to tag it as fair use while uploading.
2. If you're uploading a screenshot of a Smash game that isn't the proper quality and/or resolution, be sure to tag it as {{lowquality}}.

Thanks. Miles (talk) 15:11, 12 January 2015 (EST)

Hello.

Please be aware that if you are uploading images for personal use (e.g. for your userpage), you should be placing them in Category:User images. Toomai Glittershine The Glow 11:24, 14 January 2015 (EST)

If you can,

Make a picture for Luma's trophy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.60.218.64 (talk • contribs) 10:32, February 20, 2015

1. I don't think Luma by itself even has a trophy. If it did, then we'd know about it (and probably have a picture of it).
2. Sign your comments with ~~~~. I don't really know how many times I have to tell you about this. It is a rule that you have to sign your comments with four tildes. To make a tilde, press the shift button on your keyboard, and there is a little button above the Tab button. Press it four times, and you should have the requirements for a signature. Aidan the Aura Master 11:55, 20 February 2015 (EST)

Luma does have a trophy in the Wii U version. I believe it's called "Baby Luma" though. ChuckNorris  12:07, 20 February 2015 (EST)

Reverted edits

If your edit is reverted, please check the page history to understand the other user's reasons for doing so. If you disagree or want to discuss the subject, take it to the relevant page's talk page. Miles (talk) 10:02, 29 July 2015 (EDT)

Custom moves in lists

Please actually link to the names of custom moves, and create the redirect if necessary, instead of using the wordier "(custom X)" alongside. This stops the bracketed notes from having two different meanings (one being the custom specifier, and the other being the specific-part-of-attack specifier). Toomai Glittershine The Multifaceted 21:11, 5 October 2015 (EDT)

Japanese names

Can you please link a source to verify those Japanese names you're claiming for Mii Fighter special moves? Some of them seem unusual to my (admittedly untrained) eye and I'd like to be sure they're correct. Miles (talk) 12:34, 28 October 2015 (EDT)

To prevent further confusion

This should clear things up. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 09:58, 17 November 2015 (EST)

Bayo trophies

Mind re-uploading those with the extra transparent parts to the sides removed? Those areas are messing with the dimensions. Miles (talk) 20:05, 19 December 2015 (EST)

No problem Speed48 20:07, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Uh, not really what I meant. I was hoping for something more like this, where the picture is as wide as the trophy itself. The extra rendering wasn't needed, and in fact looks kind of off, especially on Cereza. Miles (talk) 21:22, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Although we'll take the transparency too, thanks for that. Serpent King 21:25, 19 December 2015 (EST)

SW:SIG

Hey, you're gonna need to change the image in your signature. SW:SIG says it can't be a mainspace image. If you want to keep it as that, you can upload a duplicate. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 20:16, 19 December 2015 (EST)

Reminder of this, as you haven't fixed it, to my knowledge. 98.157.202.185 18:38, 27 December 2015 (EST)

Well how am I supposed to? Speed48 22:44, 27 December 2015 (EST)

Sorry for the late reply, but I don't know how. Ask this guy. He seems to know how to do this. 98.157.202.185 10:26, 30 December 2015 (EST)

All you need to do is save the image, and reupload it with a different file name. It's that simple. Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 10:45, 30 December 2015 (EST)

Probation

Reminder: Over-editing of the user- and forum-spaces may result in your probation. Consider using the preview button to prevent editing these pages multiple times in a row.

Hi, so looking at your recent edits, I wish to remind you of probation. Thanks, from Penro 14:31, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

I know, I'm just finishing a few things up on my user page and then I'll be done. I promise Speed48 14:43, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

Ah, that's good to hear. Penro 14:44, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

There. Done. Now what spaces need editing? Speed48 15:07, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

You could start with this. I know not everyone is interested in competitive Smash, but it's pretty easy work. You basically just fill in the blanks. I am taking a break such edits though, since I got bored of it. xD John PK SMAAAASH!! 15:16, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

What do you mean by fill in the blanks specifically? Speed48 15:19, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

There's also all of this. Penro 15:21, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

I can't really do the merging Double-Edge Dance thing because the discussion isn't closed and I'm not an admin Speed48 15:32, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

There's quite a few other pages you could work on from the maintenance template, or you can look for pages to improve yourself. Miles (talk) 15:53, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

How do you guys translate the Japanese text for certain articles anyways? Speed48 16:03, 12 April 2016 (EDT)

About this

“	Do not dignify those who are trolling with a response at all, even if it is on your own talk page - that is exactly what they wish for. Don't play into their hands.	”
—SW:QDV

Just a reminder. Nokii ^ε (T · C) 18:53, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

Right, I should’ve known. My mistake. Speed48 18:55, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

Also regarding this other edit:

“	For the most part, editing talk page comments after they been posted is discouraged and typically not allowed. (...) However, if you made a statement or said anything you wish to retract, you may add strike tags <s></s> to the offending portion of the comment to signify this.	”
—SW:TALK

Nokii ^ε (T · C) 19:14, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

I’m sorry, I didn’t know I couldn’t do that. Speed48 20:31, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

I'd like to clarify a few things:

1. Posting on the talk page of a vandal is indeed discouraged, however at all times, one must assume good faith. Considering the possibility that the offender may indeed have not known that what they were doing was wrong (unlikely I know, but not impossible), I posted a new message on their page describing what has happened and what they should do next time.
2. Extending from this, the message that SonicSpeed initially posted was a poor attitude to take for any user. Even on genuine offenders requiring warnings, users must try to refrain from using any sort of accusatory tone in their posts, under SW:NPA.
3. As for removing talk posts, while strike out is NORMALLY the only way of retracting a bad comment you made, you are allowed to delete the comment entirely if both of the following conditions are met:
   • You only just posted the comment
   • Nobody else has replied to it

So there you have it. Some handy tips from me to you. Have a nice day! Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 21:46, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

About Mario

Fair enough, except that you violated SW:1RV by double-reverting it. There's another problem too, and one that still requires your edit to be taken down. I'll ask you to do it though, and here's why. I was discussing this on the Discord but basically, it could be an error due to the game's development status, one that might be fixed in the completed game. As Aidanzapunk pointed out to me: "remember, the April Smash Direct from 2014 had Diddy and Lucario's Brawl artworks in place of their (known) Smash 4 portraits." For that reason alone, the trivia point needs to be taken down. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 23:45, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

There, it’s gone. Speed48 23:48, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

Alright. I know it's frustrating, and I'm sorry to inconvenience you about this. Thanks for understanding, however. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 23:50, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

It’s fine, don’t worry about it. Speed48 23:52, 25 June 2018 (EDT)

This

Just like the rest of them, this does against the fact that SmashWiki is not speculative. Sakurai has been very vague about whether or not it's just the 8 or all 12. Even your quote supports this, as he only says the "roster", and does not specify beyond that. Aidan, the College-Bound Rurouni 23:45, 13 July 2018 (EDT)

So what you’re saying is that you want this instead of the Original 12? Speed48 11:57, 14 July 2018 (EDT)

It's not what we want or even what we expect. It is what has been clearly stated and what we can accurately report as an encyclopedia. Sakurai has proven time and time again that he makes unpredictable decisions; it is best to only report on what he states definitively. TheNuttyOne 11:59, 14 July 2018 (EDT)

Fine, but I’m not going to edit that out of the 10 Nintendo Wikipedias that the Original 12 have pages on. Speed48 12:38, 14 July 2018 (EDT)

"Bub"/"Bud"

I don't think it's enough to qualify as a violation of NPA, but the use of "bub"/"bud"/etc. in summaries such as this one, even if it wasn't the intention, can feel very patronizing and insulting and can potentially offend or enrage another user, creating unnecessary drama. Just thought I'd point it out so you can be more careful. TheNuttyOne 20:00, 15 July 2018 (EDT)

Trivia

Several of your trivia points have been deemed not noteworthy or uninteresting. I recommend checking this out before doing any more. Serpent  King 22:51, 30 July 2018 (EDT)

Oh I won't be doing anymore trivia because of this, thank you very much. Speed48 00:06, 31 July 2018 (EDT)

About the Smash Blog Quotes

Let me just say this, I'm not leaving a job "half-finished." I'm adding the blog update as it is in English, the Japanese updates sometimes add more to the quote. I myself do not speak Japanese, so I add the English quote. I make the base outline of the quote, what ever is added thereafter is not my concern. If you want to add the additional parts from the Japanese quote, feel free to, but please don't accuse me of leaving a job half-finished because I didn't wait for Source Gaming to translate it. Sorry if I'm coming across as a jerk as that is not my intention at all, I'm just trying to explain why I don't add that extra sliver of info the Japanese quote has. Dakota.952 22:58 August 1 2018 (EDT)

Oh, well I'm sorry for the confusion, Dakota. I never meant to come off as a jerk either, I just get a bit confused why the last part wasn't on. Speed48 23:11, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

It's alright, as I've read over my original comment it might've looked a bit harsh. Sorry about that! Dakota.952 1:14, August 2 2018 (EDT)

This

It looks pretty bad when an admin goes against the very rule(s) they try to keep enforced, so I'll bring this here: none of the other Mario characters have that sort of mention to the mainline series, unlike Bowser, so that's not really an argument that you can use, if you ask me. Aidan, the College-Bound Rurouni 03:03, 4 August 2018 (EDT)

Le this

(trying not to repeat header titles, lol)

The IP's edit summary quite clearly states why your edit summary is irrelevant. We already know for sure Ridley will have some form of Meta Ridley alt in the game, which was not available in the demo. This is strong evidence that the costumes seen in the demo are not finalized and/or some characters may have more than eight. To say Mario definitely won't have those comments is speculative. TheNuttyOne 14:28, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

Also going to add that your edit summary had an unnecessary amount of attitude. Try to watch that, please. TheNuttyOne 14:28, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

This edit right here...

Is a violation of SW:1RV. Specifically, the part that says, "Do not revert another user's revert because it is in violation of this policy. This will only escalate the problem." Take it to his talk page instead of warring, please. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan Leave a message if needed 01:41, 13 August 2018 (EDT)

May I ask

Just why you replaced the Multiple Special Moves template to two Special Moves templates? That template was created for that specific reason. It is for that I will be reverting your edits. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan Leave a message if needed 23:14, 13 August 2018 (EDT)

That's only because it's not exactly that easy to access the out-of-reach character charts on mobile sites, and mine is on a desktop setting. Plus it looks really wonky when it goes out of the border of the page. Speed48 23:16, 13 August 2018 (EDT)

Moon images

Those images do not come from the website, so renaming is not only unnecessary but also inaccurate. VoqéoT 15:56, 19 August 2018 (EDT)

I must apologize for my rudeness: it turns out that a couple of those moon images are also on the website under the items section. I was mistaken because I got them here, which also has images not found on the website, such as the newer stage images that Moonboy65 uploaded. VoqéoT 06:31, 20 August 2018 (EDT)

About this recent reversion

Reminder: Please quietly deal with vandals.

Your passive-aggressive name-calling is also a violation to SW:NPA. Please be more careful next time regarding both of these policies. — Nokii (T·C·L) 21:05, 19 August 2018 (EDT)

I'm sorry, it's just that I couldn't take anymore of his constant vandalism, that I completely forgot about the "NPA" rule. I'll try to be more reasonable next time, I promise. Speed48 21:16, 19 August 2018 (EDT)

Not to mention YOUR edit ALSO went against 1RV. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan Leave a message if needed 21:17, 19 August 2018 (EDT)

Nevermind, it doesn't, I forgot about this part: "Exception: In cases of obvious vandalism, this rule does not apply. This also includes edits that violate other policies (e.g removing talk page messages), or edits that an administrator has deemed counterproductive." Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan Leave a message if needed 21:20, 19 August 2018 (EDT)

Images

Not to sound rude, but why in general are you so particular about images for all these redirects, renaming, reuploading, etc. to take place? Especially when it doesn't affect the articles they're in any way (or have any effect for that matter)? VoqéoT 21:46, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Is it wrong that someone likes having things be consistent with pre-existing material? Speed48 21:55, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Is it morally wrong? No. But that doesn't really address my points. VoqéoT 22:00, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Can you please stop?

I'm bringing this up to you now that i am aware of what you've been doing. It has come to my attention that you've been re-uploading pre-existing images in lower quality .jpeg formats, when .png is the preferred format of the wiki. Other Users have also made mention that you have a bad habit of re-naming pictures for no reason. So I am asking you to please, leave everything alone. We already have a system set in place, if you feel the need to re-name images thats fine, but please mark the original file name for deletion rather than leave a trail of re-directs. And you shouldnt upload an image thats already on the wiki when, as I said before, the .png format is preferred by the rest of the wiki staff, including the wiki admins.
Ixbran (talk) 21:48, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Then tell me why almost every single picture taken from the website is in a .jpg format, and always has an "SSBUWebsite1" type of title. Speed48 21:52, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

1) Because the official site has the images in .jpg, and most people upload directly from the url links just because it's easier (as opposed to resaving it on your cpu as png). It has nothing to do with consistency. 2) That was just a name somebody gave them. The name, however, has no impact on articles. So I still don't understand the need to have the names so exact and precise. And I would also argue that most have that title because you renamed them as such. VoqéoT 21:58, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Yes, but I wasn't the one that started naming the first website pictures like that in the first place. I'm just trying to follow suit. I'm sorry my work is such a huge bother to you guys. Speed48 22:02, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

.jpeg takes up less space and so for most gaming websites uploading them in .jpeg takes less strain on its servers. Wiki's though are public domain and so they are taken care of by special host servers that can easily process .png files. when a picture is shrunk down to a thumbnail, or any other size smaller than its default, as a .jpeg it loses its quality and becomes distorted and pixilated, which could give a false impression of the image's actual quality. But .png's stay clear and clean regardless of how small they are, so they help keep page profiles cut and clean at a glance. that is why they are the preferred format by the rest of the wiki contributors, both the standard ones and the admins. We go to great lengths to ensure pictures are uploaded in high quality .png format.

As for the file names, the names of the images on the website are to make it easier for the site it self to process and organize everyhting sure, but we have our own way of processing and organizing file names. We list; character/stage name: if its a screen shoot or a render: then what Smash game its for via an abbreviation (SSBB, SSB4, SSBU, ect). It makes things easier on us here on the wiki for the sake of categorization and how to find what image from what game. The current smash website only lists SSBU images. What do we do for the next game when there are other official screenshots with the exact same file names on the website for the new game? If alucard were to return as an assist trophy in SSB6, we can't upload the file as 'AlucardOfficialSiteScreenshot1.jpeg' if theres already a file with that name.
Ixbran (talk) 22:08, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

This isn't a personal attack against you, because these same points apply to whoever was doing it first. So please don't take this as a personal attack. VoqéoT 22:16, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Well it kind of felt like one at first to be honest, but thank you for clearing the air. Speed48 22:18, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

We know that you want to do what you feel is best, but we have a system already set in place that has been working very well for this Wiki since before many of us have even started contributing here. We don't want to discourage you from doing your best, but going around and changing things like that without consulting someone before hand wasnt the best of ideas. If you ever have any ideas you wanna run please be sure to run it by an admin first, ok? Keep trying to do your best, ok?
Ixbran (talk) 22:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Sure, whatever you say. I'll try to be more open-minded about that stuff in the future. Speed48 22:38, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Costumes SSBU

Hi, I'm new to the wiki and I was wondering why the alternate disguise (SSBU) doesn't have the edit button? sorry for my bad english. --VoyagerDefault (talk) 17:40, 26 August 2018 (EDT) Regards

How did you get the 2nd Raichu image without the black border?

File:SSBUWebsiteRaichu2.jpg At first I assumed you cropped it, but then I noticed Pichu's ear wasn't cut off. So how did you do it? Unowninator (talk) 11:26, 2 September 2018 (EDT)

I talked to Nokii about that, and he told me to go here. Speed48 12:08, 2 September 2018 (EDT)

Please do not edit war

Read or catch up on this please and thank you. Serpent  King 16:10, 12 September 2018 (EDT)

I never meant to be a part of that in any way, and I apologize for it. Speed48 16:59, 12 September 2018 (EDT)

Reverting

What is your reasoning for undoing these changes (1 2 3 4) by PleasePleasePepper? His rationale was "clarified *dedicated* handheld, since the Switch also functions as one, which would take out Bayo and Inklings". Do you disagree, and why? – Emmett 12:21, 21 September 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for coming to my defense. I came here to ask the same thing. The Switch is definitely a semi-handheld console, so I don't see what issues would arise from adding that distinction. --PleasePleasePepper (talk) 13:34, 21 September 2018 (EDT)

Article icons

Hey, I've noticed you sometimes edit the "articleIcon" template on some articles just to change "ssbm", "ssbb" and "ssbu" into "melee", "brawl" and "ultimate", respectively. I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind those changes, since all it ultimately does is increase the article's size by 1 to 6 bits, and the result is the same. Could you explain your logic to me? Ponyshment 11:52, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

I guess it's a force of habit, I suppose? I just thought since they had names, it would be better for a new editor to understand what the abbreviations meant. Speed48 13:22, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

They aren't really necessary. It's not really that hard for a new editor to work out what they mean. I can understand why you might think otherwise though. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 18:48, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

Talk page is getting full

You should probably consider archiving this page. Read this for info on how to do this. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 01:36, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

Okay, thanks for the help, BV! SonicSpeed48 01:45, 2 October 2018 (EDT)