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==Gender==
==Gender==
Does ROB even have a gender, being a robot and all? [[User:Harro|👾Harro👾]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 05:28, 28 July 2014 (EDT)
Does ROB even have a gender, being a robot and all? [[User:Harro|👾Harro👾]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 05:28, 28 July 2014 (EDT)
:[http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/characters/hidden07.html The DOJO] and his trophy in-game use masculine pronouns. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 05:30, 28 July 2014 (EDT)
::: My mistake. Sorry. [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 08:26, 2 August 2014 (EDT)
== Gender ==
Is the pronouns thing really a good reason to claim that he's male? Lucario's been called male but we go with genderless. Heck, Pikachu has evidence of being male, but we still go with genderless. Robots don't have genders. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  13:42, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
:Unless you're prepared to claim that Mega Man is also genderless, the robot claim is silly argument to make. Pokemon are referred to by gender-neutral pronouns in Smash stuff consistently with only one exception, as opposed to R.O.B. who frequently gets male pronouns. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 13:53, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
::It was my understanding that Mega Man is more of a cyborg, a human who was given robot parts. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  13:55, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
:::The original Mega Man (the one this article is about) is not a cyborg, just a robot who strongly resembles a human. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 14:03, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
::::Hmmm okay. Still, technically Mega Man is genderless, but is designed as if he were male. It's impossible to give a robot a gender. There's this certain, uh, requirement that doesn't work very well with metal. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  14:06, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
:::::Gender =/= biological sex, dude. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:08, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
::::::It's not the exact same, but they're directly connected. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  14:16, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
:::::::Okay let's keep this here as opposed to my talk page: biological sex and gender are not synonymous, and a robot's ability to be identified as male or female is not related to whether the robot is biological. Mega Man and Roll are prime examples of this. R.O.B. is always referred to with male pronouns. I don't see how this is arguable. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:25, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
::::::::oh so this a "identify as what gender you want to" thing then. got it. i'll leave now. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  14:27, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
:::::::::Ugh, don't bring that debate here, it has nothing to do with the situation. 
:::::::::Nintendo refers to him as male, he has only very rarely been referred using a neutral pronoun, Unlike Lucario, who has only been referred to as Male once, but genderless a bunch of other times. He was a robot designed to be male, technically speaking, he's genderless, but he is "male." It's like when a kid names their pet rock "Leo" or something. Or when someone makes an A.I. that's based on a human (see GLaDos or HAL) [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Laikue|contribs]]) 16:12, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
==R.O.B as a Fighter==
Why was R.O.B. allowed to be a Smash fighter if he has ''no stages'' in any game, only one of his Special Moves has a true origin, and he has ''one'' music track? He has barely any source material to draw from in Smash, especially because he didn't properly debut in the games he can play. --[[User:Dogleader|Dogleader]] ([[User talk:Dogleader|talk]]) 09:21, January 3, 2021 (EST)
:[[SW:TALK|Well Sakurai is always full of surprises]] [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="deepskyblue">Omegα Toαd,</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">the Toαd Wαrrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Omega Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(BUP)</font>]]''' 09:35, January 3, 2021 (EST)
==Doesn't StarTropics count as ROB's first game appearance?==
Or does it not because that was "Nav-Com", not "ROB"?
'''[[User talk:TomGyroid|<font color="blue">TomGyroid.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/TomGyroid|<font color="#7B5BEE">(TomGyroid)</font>]]''' 15:06, June 15, 2021 (BST)
:Nav-Com resembles R.O.B. but isn't definitively him, whereas the Kirby's Dream Land 3 cameo leaves no ambiguity. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 10:20, June 15, 2021 (EDT)

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Category:Controllers[edit]

He is a controller, but the category itself is not required, as he can't be used for smash, like every other page in the category. Is this required?Qwerty the lord Nessytrewq.jpg 01:18, 10 July 2014 (EDT)

Gender[edit]

Does ROB even have a gender, being a robot and all? 👾Harro👾 (talk) 05:28, 28 July 2014 (EDT)

The DOJO and his trophy in-game use masculine pronouns. Miles (talk) 05:30, 28 July 2014 (EDT)
My mistake. Sorry. Harro (talk) 08:26, 2 August 2014 (EDT)

Gender[edit]

Is the pronouns thing really a good reason to claim that he's male? Lucario's been called male but we go with genderless. Heck, Pikachu has evidence of being male, but we still go with genderless. Robots don't have genders. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 13:42, 24 May 2015 (EDT)

Unless you're prepared to claim that Mega Man is also genderless, the robot claim is silly argument to make. Pokemon are referred to by gender-neutral pronouns in Smash stuff consistently with only one exception, as opposed to R.O.B. who frequently gets male pronouns. Miles (talk) 13:53, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
It was my understanding that Mega Man is more of a cyborg, a human who was given robot parts. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 13:55, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
The original Mega Man (the one this article is about) is not a cyborg, just a robot who strongly resembles a human. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 14:03, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
Hmmm okay. Still, technically Mega Man is genderless, but is designed as if he were male. It's impossible to give a robot a gender. There's this certain, uh, requirement that doesn't work very well with metal. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 14:06, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
Gender =/= biological sex, dude. Miles (talk) 14:08, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
It's not the exact same, but they're directly connected. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 14:16, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
Okay let's keep this here as opposed to my talk page: biological sex and gender are not synonymous, and a robot's ability to be identified as male or female is not related to whether the robot is biological. Mega Man and Roll are prime examples of this. R.O.B. is always referred to with male pronouns. I don't see how this is arguable. Miles (talk) 14:25, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
oh so this a "identify as what gender you want to" thing then. got it. i'll leave now. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 14:27, 24 May 2015 (EDT)
Ugh, don't bring that debate here, it has nothing to do with the situation.
Nintendo refers to him as male, he has only very rarely been referred using a neutral pronoun, Unlike Lucario, who has only been referred to as Male once, but genderless a bunch of other times. He was a robot designed to be male, technically speaking, he's genderless, but he is "male." It's like when a kid names their pet rock "Leo" or something. Or when someone makes an A.I. that's based on a human (see GLaDos or HAL) Laikue (talk | contribs) 16:12, 24 May 2015 (EDT)

R.O.B as a Fighter[edit]

Why was R.O.B. allowed to be a Smash fighter if he has no stages in any game, only one of his Special Moves has a true origin, and he has one music track? He has barely any source material to draw from in Smash, especially because he didn't properly debut in the games he can play. --Dogleader (talk) 09:21, January 3, 2021 (EST)

Well Sakurai is always full of surprises For my signature. Omegα Toαd, the Toαd Wαrrior. (BUP) 09:35, January 3, 2021 (EST)

Doesn't StarTropics count as ROB's first game appearance?[edit]

Or does it not because that was "Nav-Com", not "ROB"? TomGyroid. (TomGyroid) 15:06, June 15, 2021 (BST)

Nav-Com resembles R.O.B. but isn't definitively him, whereas the Kirby's Dream Land 3 cameo leaves no ambiguity. Miles (talk) 10:20, June 15, 2021 (EDT)