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'''Snake''' is a playable character in the ''[[Brawl]]'' mod [[Project M]]. | '''Snake''' is a playable character in the ''[[Brawl]]'' mod ''[[Project M]]'' and its successor, [[Project+]]. He has been given new moves as well as a mix of buffs and nerfs for his ''Project M'' incarnation. | ||
Snake ranks 12th out of 41, at the midst of the A- tier, on the [[Project M#Tier list|official]] [[tier list]], a small drop from his 6th-place position out of 38 on the ''Brawl'' tier list. However, in the official [[Project+]] tier list, he drops drastically, placing 34th out of 42, landing him at the top of C tier. | |||
==Attributes== | ==Attributes== | ||
Snake is a fairly tall, heavy character with a wide array of projectiles and explosives. Many of his normal attacks are quick to start up and have well-placed, powerful hitboxes that lead into each other. However, his movement on the ground is only average, and in the air it is slightly worse (though his neutral special, if [[B-reverse]]d, can help alleviate this). Snake excels at dealing high-damage combos, setting traps, juggling airborne opponents, surviving and recovering from incredibly long distances, and KOing foes off the top blast zone. He also possesses strong defensive tools, such as a long grab range, quick moves out of shield, a strong [[crouch cancel]] (due to his high weight) and a crouch that ducks under many commonly used moves. His primary weakness is his lack of reliable tools to approach opponents with - this means he can struggle against characters that are faster than he is, have longer-ranged attacks, can out-camp his projectiles, or have some combination of those things. He is also easily combo'd himself if the opponent manages to land a clean hit. Furthermore, while his recovery can travel very long distances, it is faily predictable, and he often has to inflict damage to himself through C4 or grenades. | |||
Because the ''Project M'' metagame rewards defensive play much less than ''Brawl'' does, Snake's campy special moveset has received several new tools to keep it on par. His Grenades can now be rolled, and explode twice as quickly. Despite now being limited to one at a time, this allows Snake to use them more quickly and frequently without having to "cook" them first to prevent foes from throwing them back at him. Cypher now deals damage and knockback even while Snake hangs onto it, and although it is slightly less useful and safe for recovery, the move is now a very strong out of shield option due to its fast startup, weak knockback, and the positioning Snake gets after using it. His Remote Missile was replaced with Tranquilizer Gun, which launches a very small sleep-inducing projectile that, when hit, allows Snake to easily place C4 on an opponent. With its new buffs, C4 no longer transfers between players or disappears (unless it is detonated or Snake is KOed), and Snake can now [https://youtu.be/w3VQUEmsO8M?t=24m56s fake pressing the detonator]. The feint forces an opponent to dodge or shield in anticipation of the explosion, limiting their options and granting Snake an advantage. Overall, its buffs make it especially useful against evasive players: once the C4 is attached to Snake's opponent, he can use the feint or simply detonate it to break a stalemate at any range. | |||
Snake's ground attacks received some adjustments oriented both toward combo potential and KO potential. His jab and all of his tilts keep enemies closer; in particular, the first stage of his forward tilt now weakly bounces targets straight up, allowing the move to rack up damage in succession and keep opponents close much more efficiently than his jab does. Meanwhile, his smash attacks were reworked for KO potential, with his down-smash mines receiving a substantial boost in knockback and his up-smash mortar no longer having a random, uncontrollable angle. Snake's new knife forward-smash, while seemingly more oriented toward speed than launching power, consists of two stages that both end in powerful strikes, allowing Snake to mix up shielding opponents by delaying or not using the second stage. While Snake's up- and down-throws received only minor tweaks, his forward- and back-throws, which still bounce the foe horizontally across the ground, now consist of mostly set knockback and are more effective at leading into a mine. Additionally, Snake's new ability to drag foes left or right during a grab can more advantageously position him to reliably throw a foe onto a mine. | |||
Listed below are numerical values for many of Snake's attributes. The raw number comes first (often in terms of in-game units of distance or speed), followed by how it ranks among the 41 characters in Project M. Note that the grab range rankings do not include characters with tether grabs. | |||
*[[Weight]] - 105 (9th) | |||
*Max Fall Speed - 2.12 (15th) | |||
*Fast Fall Speed - 2.89 (14th) | |||
*[[Gravity]] (Falling Acceleration) - 0.098 (23rd) | |||
*Jumpsquat Frames - 5 | |||
*Max Run Speed - 1.55 (22nd) | |||
*Max Walk Speed - 0.875 (30th) | |||
*Max Air Speed - 0.94 (25th) | |||
*Aerial Mobility - 0.55 (24th) | |||
*Standing [[Grab]] Range - 17.2482 (6th) | |||
*Dash Grab Range - 16.7382 (4th) | |||
*[[Pivot Grab]] Range - 18.0387 (10th) | |||
*[[Wavedash]] Distance - 24.68 (30th) | |||
==Changes from ''Brawl'' to ''PM''== | |||
Snake received a mix of [[buff]]s and [[nerf]]s, with his buffs making him more suitable for the mod's offensive metagame. Snake's mobility for the most part has been considerably improved and he has various new tools he can use. His side special is now a tranquilliser gun which puts grounded opponents to sleep giving him many potential followups. His grab game is also even stronger. Snake can now walk around while grabbing his opponents allowing him to get closer to the ledge or his down smash mines. His down throw is also faster and deals more damage making it an even better tech chasing option. | |||
As well as these buffs, Snake has also seen some nerfs. His weight has been reduced and he is much more vulnerable to combos due to the removal of [[hitstun canceling]] greatly hindering his endurance. All of his tilts are weaker and their notoriously large disjointed hitboxes have been considerably decreased. His aerials are also considerably weaker especially his neutral and down aerials. His [[Hand Grenade]]s also take longer to spawn and he can only have one out at a time making them less effective as a defensive tool. | |||
Overall, Snake buffs alleviate his nerfs and he overall remains a strong character. | |||
===Aesthetics=== | |||
*{{buff|Up taunt has been changed to a taunt where Snake briefly smokes and then drops the cigarette in front of him, causing 4% [[flame]] damage to nearby opponents. However, after lighting the cigarette, Snake can jump to cancel the taunt and keep it in his mouth. It can then be thrown by using up taunt again.}} | |||
*{{nerf|New up taunt deals 1% recoil damage to Snake.}} | |||
*{{buff|Down taunt is faster allowing Snake to use his cardboard box as an attack sooner.}} | |||
*{{change|Side taunt now has Snake speak into his codec, saying "Colonel, mission accomplished", similar to in one of his [[victory pose]]s.}} | |||
*{{change|Snake now uses regular punching and kicking SFX for his attacks, rather than unique ones.}} | |||
===Attributes=== | |||
*{{buff|Snake [[walk]]s slightly faster (0.84 → 0.875).}} | |||
*{{buff|Snake [[dash]]es faster (1.35 → 1.55).}} | |||
*{{buff|Snake's [[air acceleration]] is higher (0.03 → 0.55) no longer being the lowest in the game.}} | |||
*{{change|Snake's [[falling]] speed is higher (1.73 → 2.12).}} | |||
*{{change|Snake's [[gravity]] is higher (0.08 → 0.098).}} | |||
*{{change|Snake's [[traction]] is higher (0.0542 → 0.08). This makes it easier for him to punish out of shield but shortens the distance of his new [[wavedash]].}} | |||
*{{buff|Jump squat is 5 frames long, down from 9 in ''Brawl''. This allows Snake to jump much more quickly and gives him access to all of his aerials/[[air dodge]] 4 frames sooner.}} | |||
*{{buff|Snake's grounded jump height has been increased, which along with the faster [[falling speed]]s and addition of [[L-cancel]]ing, allow better and less risky usage of his [[aerial attack]]s and also equip him with a powerful [[SHFFL]].}} | |||
*{{buff|[[Grab release glitch]] from ''Brawl'' has been removed. (with one edge-case of Kirby Inhale Grab-release still causing the glitch)}} | |||
*{{nerf|The general new physics of ''Project M'', which include enhanced air movements and the re-introduction of techniques such as [[wavedash]]ing, increase the pace of many characters' playstyles, allowing most of the cast to overcome Snake's metagame, which was one of the most powerful in ''Brawl''. Overall, Snake does not benefit as much from these techniques other than L-canceling, compared to other characters.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Snake is significantly lighter (113 → 105), going from a super heavyweight to a normal heavyweight; Snake now is only slightly heavier than {{PM|Captain Falcon}} and {{PM|Link}} and weighs the same as {{PM|Ike}}. While this would make him less vulnerable to combos, his higher fall speed/gravity and the removal of [[hitstun canceling]] make him more vulnerable to combos.}} | |||
===Ground Attacks=== | |||
*{{buff|Third hit of neutral attack has less start-up (frame 10 → 8) and deals slightly more damage (7% → 8%).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Third hit of neutral attack has reduced knockback (60 (base)/115 (scaling) → 70/80) and smaller hitboxes (4u/6.5u → 3.28u/5.33u). The first two hits also have smaller hitboxes.}} | |||
*{{buff|First hit of forward tilt deals slightly more shield damage (3 → 4) and now causes grounded opponents to bounce upwards, allowing the second hit to connect more reliably and is faster on hit due to less hitlag. The second hit also has less startup lag with a longer duration (frame 6 → 5-7).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Both hits of forward tilt no longer have large disjointed hitboxes (7u/6u/5u → 5u/5u (hit 1), 6u/7u/5u/6.5u → 4.15u/3.75u (hit 2)). The first hit can no longer [[trip]] and second hit has more ending lag (frame 31 → 39).}} | |||
*{{change|Second Hit of forward tilt now deals consistent damage (9%/10%/12% → 10%) and has altered knockback (50 (base)/80 (scaling) → 35/90).}} | |||
*{{buff|Snake has a new up tilt: an uppercut. It has less startup (frame 6 → 5) and ending lag (frame 39 → 35) and overall has much better combo potential than his previous up tilt. It also deals extra shield damage.}} | |||
*{{nerf|New up tilt no longer has its large disjointed hitbox in front of him (6u/5u/5u → 2.95u/4.35u/3.15u (clean), 6u/5u/7u → 2.95u/4.28u/3.5u (late)). It also has significantly less range, a shorter duration (frame 6-12 → 5-7 (clean), 8-9 (late)) and deals less damage (13% (clean)/12% (late) → 12%/10%) without its knockback fully compensated (55 (base)/95 (scaling) → 50/103 (clean), 45/95 → 40/103 (late) hindering its KO potential.}} | |||
*{{buff|Down tilt has a longer duration (frames 6-9 → 8-13) and now has a clean hitbox that deals 1% more damage (10% → 11%) and it has less ending lag (fame 35 → 31). It has better combo set ups than ''Brawl'' at lower percents due to its lower knockback, allowing it to set up for a grab.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Down tilt has more startup lag (frame 6 → 8) and deals less knockback (50 (base)/110/100 (scaling) → 35/80) hindering its KO potential. It also has smaller hitboxes (5u/4u/3.5u → 3.5u/2.87u/2.5u).}} | |||
*{{buff|Dash attack has a longer duration (frames 5-12 → 6-16) has less ending lag (frame 43 → 40) and now deals consistent damage (11%/9% → 11% (clean), 8%/6% → 8% (late)) and deals more knockback 50 (base)/85 (scaling) → 60/80).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Dash attack has more startup lag (frame 5 → 6).}} | |||
*{{buff|Snake has gained a [[crawl]] attack: a knife stab. This deals low damage and knockback, allowing it to set up for combos at high percents.}} | |||
*{{buff|Snake has a new forward smash: a three hit knife combo, where Snake slashes twice in front of him, then performs a third stronger slash with a second press of the attack button. It is much faster than his previous forward smash having less startup (frame 41 → 13) and ending lag (frame 82 → 49 (first hit only)) and deals 4% more damage if all hits connect (22% → 6% (hit 1), 8% (hit 2), 12% (hit 3)).}} | |||
*{{nerf|New forward smash deals less knockback (100 (base)/60 (scaling) → 30/139 (hit 2), 40/110 (hit 3)), and is less reliable as the second hit as high knockback preventing it from connecting with the third hit beyond low percents and the third hit is easy to [[DI]] out of.}} | |||
*{{buff|Up smash's mortars deal more damage (10% → 14%) and launch opponents at a more vertical angle (65° → 77°). Their horizontal angle is no longer random; instead, the player can control it similar to {{PM|Ivysaur}}'s Seed Bomb. It also has less ending lag (frame 54 → 51).}} | |||
*{{nerf|The mortal shells deal less knockback (90 (base)/67 (scaling) → 75/45).}} | |||
*{{buff|Down smash has less ending lag (frame 78 → 35), and the mines have more knockback growth (58 → 75) along with having a larger detection radius.}} | |||
*{{change|Down smash mine is now purple instead of yellow.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Snake can no longer perform the [[Gatling Combo]]. In addition, his DACUS covers much less distance and is harder to perform.}} | |||
===Aerial Attacks=== | |||
*{{buff|Neutral aerial's number of kicks has been reduced from four to three, allowing all kicks to connect in a [[short hop]] and rack up damage to launch the opponent afterwards.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Neutral aerial deals significantly less total damage due to the removal of the fourth kick, dealing 15% in total rather than 28%. The last kick also deals less knockback.}} | |||
*{{buff|Tip of forward aerial now [[spike]]s, making it a deadlier [[edge-guard]]ing move when spaced correctly, and also deals 1% more damage. The sweetspot makes it a stronger KO move, especially on the ground.}} | |||
*{{change|Forward aerial no longer boosts Snake vertically. This removes its ability to help Snake's recovery, but makes it somewhat easier to land.}} | |||
*{{change|Forward aerial now has a motion trail.}} | |||
*{{buff|Back aerial auto-cancels earlier (frame 63 → 33) now auto-cancelling in a short hop.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Back aerial has more startup lag (frame 7 → 8), the clean hit also deals less damage (16%/14% → 14%/13%/12%) and has less knockback overall (40 (base)/90 (scaling) → 20/100). Back aerial also has a shorter duration (frames 7-26 → 8-22).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Up aerial now has two sourspots on the clean hit, both of which deal less damage (14% → 13%/12%). It no longer auto-cancels in a short hop due to Snake's higher falling speed.}} | |||
*{{change|Up aerial has altered knockback (40 (base)/95 (scaling) → 35/100).}} | |||
*{{buff|Down aerial is faster and its last stomp is now a [[meteor smash]] (361° → 270°), also acting better as an edge-guarding move.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Down aerial deals much less damage (6% (hit 1), 5% (hits 2 & 3), 12% (hit 4) → 4% (all)). The final hit is also much less reliable due to being a meteor smash allowing it to be meteor canceled and due to its much weaker knockback, it is no longer a viable KO option onstage.}} | |||
===Grabs and Throws=== | |||
*{{buff|Snake can now drag [[grab]]bed enemies sideways by using the left and right taunt buttons.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Snake can no longer force his opponents into an aerial [[grab release]]. When combined with the changes to aerial grab releases, this greatly hinders his grab release's utility as he can longer guarantee an aerial release and he has lost all of the followups he had out of his aerial release apart from the landmine from his down smash.}} | |||
*{{change|Forward and back throws are significantly weaker, but can now be used to throw opponents into mines and C4s.}} | |||
*{{buff|Up throw is a stronger finisher, and can chain grab at lower percents.}} | |||
*{{buff|Down throw deals 2% more damage (12% → 14%) and is faster, forcing the opponent to act faster and racking up more damage as a [[tech-chasing]] move.}} | |||
*{{nerf|If Snake down throws an opponent off a ledge, they will be dropped down a lot further preventing Snake from getting guaranteed followups.}} | |||
===Special Moves=== | |||
*{{buff|[[Hand Grenade]]s explode much faster after thrown and do slightly more damage when thrown at the opponent. Snake can also now roll his grenades forward by tilting down as he is about to throw them, resulting the Grenade traveling less distance if needed.}} | |||
**{{nerf|Grenades now spawn on frame 8 instead of frame 1, and only one Grenade can be active at a time.}} | |||
*{{buff|Snake has a new side special: Tranquilizer Gun; Snake shoots a small tranquilizing dart that puts a grounded opponent to sleep and causes airborne opponents to flinch, causing 1% damage either way. It can be fired three times before the clip becomes empty and Snake must reload. Trying to shoot while the clip is empty will force Snake to reload, but he can also reload at any point by pressing Side-B and then Shield during the first few frames of the animation. It has more utility than the [[Remote Missile]], being much faster and allowing Snake to easily [[punish]] foes affected by the attack.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Tranquilizer Gun can only be shot 3 times before the clip becomes empty and Snake must reload. Trying to shoot while the clip is empty will force Snake to reload, but he can also reload at any point by pressing Side-B and then Shield during the first few frames of the animation. In addition, Tranquilizer Gun deals less damage (7%/14% → 1%), has a much shorter duration covering much less space and Snake has much less control over it compared to Remote Missile.}} | |||
*{{buff|[[Cypher]] now emits electricity when used, and causes opponents to take 6% damage flinch when in close radius. It additionally has a slightly better horizontal movement.}} | |||
**{{nerf|Cypher gains less vertical distance,no longer grants Snake [[armor]] and Snake can no longer air dodge out of it.}} | |||
*{{buff|[[C4]]s produce more vertical knockback to compensate for the faster falling speeds. In addition, they no longer disappear unless Snake is KO'd or sets them off, and the detonation animation can be canceled by holding the special button for a feint.}} | |||
**{{nerf|C4 no longer transfers between players, and Snake says "There!" upon sticking it to a character, making the move more noticeable.}} | |||
==Revisions== | |||
===v2.5b=== | |||
*{{buff|The second hit of forward tilt is stronger.}} | |||
*{{buff|Neutral air's last hit is stronger.}} | |||
*{{buff|Back air sweetspot lasts slightly longer.}} | |||
*{{change|Back air angles switched.}} | |||
*{{change|Up tilt's animation is touched up.}} | |||
*{{change|Up smash knockback and angle adjusted.}} | |||
*{{buff|[[Cypher]] hitboxes are closer in to Snake.}} | |||
*{{buff|Cypher adjusted in knockback and angle.}} | |||
*{{buff|C4 explosion hitbox shifted upwards to match the graphic and hits slightly longer.}} | |||
===v2.6b=== | |||
*{{nerf|Jab 1's outermost hitbox shifted inward slightly.}} | |||
*{{buff|Dash attack ends slightly earlier.}} | |||
*{{buff|Crawl Stab's base knockback has been slightly increased.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Crawl stab's knockback growth has been slightly decreased.}} | |||
*{{buff|Up smash comes out slightly faster and can now be angled by holding left or right.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Pivot grab has a bit more startup to match other pivot grabs.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Up throw has slightly more ending lag.}} | |||
*{{buff|[[Hand Grenade]] has a new throw option, a low throw which Snake "rolls" the grenade on the ground.}} | |||
*{{change|The player must now press up to toss the grenade back instead of back.}} | |||
*{{buff|[[Cypher]] can sweetspot the edge more easily.}} | |||
*{{buff|Cypher is now wavebounceable.}} | |||
===v3.0=== | |||
*{{change|Neutral air's last hit sends at a slightly lower angle.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Forward air has reduced knockback growth.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Standing grab has much less reverse range.}} | |||
*{{change|Up tilt has a more polished animation.}} | |||
*{{change|Forward smash has a more polished animation.}} | |||
*{{buff|Forward smash start up very slightly decreased.}} | |||
*{{change|C4 aerial stick hitbox moved up and slightly in.}} | |||
*{{buff|Tranquilizer Gun has a 3 dart clip that can be reloaded prematurely by holding shield within six frames starting side B.}} | |||
*{{buff|Up taunt replaced with a cigarette smoking taunt.}} | |||
=== | ===v3.01=== | ||
*{{bugfix|Forward smash no longer displays all of Snake's facial expressions at once.}} | |||
*{{ | *{{bugfix|Fixed graphical issues during the second hit of forward smash.}} | ||
*{{change|Up tilt animation reverted to demo 2.6's Utilt animation.}} | |||
*{{ | *{{buff|Snake can now reload Tranquilizer Gun even when he hasn't taken any shots.}} | ||
*{{ | |||
*{{buff|Snake can | ===v3.5=== | ||
*{{buff| | *{{buff|Back air now deals 14%/13%/12% based on hitbox, instead of acting like a sex kick.}} | ||
*{{buff| | *{{buff|Dash grab has lower hitboxes that can grab short crouching characters.}} | ||
*{{nerf| | *{{nerf|Up tilt is no longer intangible around Snake's arm.}} | ||
*{{nerf| | *{{nerf|Crawl tilt has increased hitlag and SDI multiplier.}} | ||
*{{nerf| | *{{nerf|Forward aerial can only spike with the heel hitbox; the rest of the hitbox is now a meteor smash. All hitboxes also have less knockback growth and deal 1% less damage.}} | ||
*{{nerf| | *{{nerf|Down aerial's first three hitboxes have a higher SDI multiplier.}} | ||
*{{ | *{{nerf|Standing grab can no longer grab short crouching characters.}} | ||
*{{ | *{{nerf|Cypher decreases in height for each aerial use until Snake lands on the ground, and the attack's damage is reduced to 5% damage from 8% damage.}} | ||
*{{ | **{{nerf|No longer gains invincibility when used on ground.}} | ||
*{{ | **{{nerf|Ability to air dodge after using any aerial attacks has been removed.}} | ||
*{{ | *{{nerf|C4 has slightly less knockback and 1% less damage, but trajectory is slightly better. Detonating C4 has slower interruptibility.}} | ||
*{{change|C4 | *{{change|Interruptibility for setting C4 normalized to be the same for both grounded and aerial versions.}} | ||
* | **{{nerf|Jump cancel for setting C4 in the air removed.}} | ||
*{{ | *{{change|Down smash mine placed higher up for easier detection.}} | ||
*{{change| | |||
==Moveset== | ==Moveset== | ||
Up to date as of version 3. | Up to date as of version 3.6. | ||
{|class="wikitable" | {|class="wikitable" | ||
! !!Name!!Damage!!Description | ! !!Name!!Damage!!Description | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Neutral attack | ! rowspan=3 | Neutral attack | ||
| || || | | rowspan=3 | || 4% || rowspan=3 | Snake punches twice, then performs a spinkick. The final kick has high knockback but can be [[Powershield|powershielded]] depending on the character, even if the combo is done as fast as possible. Based off the attack combo from ''{{s|wikipedia|Metal Gear Solid}}'' and ''{{s|wikipedia|Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty}}''. The first jab can also be canceled into a f-tilt or a grab. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Forward tilt | |3% | ||
| || || | |- | ||
|8% | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan=2 | Forward tilt | |||
| rowspan=2 | || 8% || rowspan=2 | Snake does a knee-thrust forward and if the attack button is pressed again, he will follow up with an overhead swing with both arms. This move is seen during a cutscene in M''etal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes'' when Snake fights [[Grey Fox]]. The first hitbox has extremely fast start-up and good horizontal reach. On grounded opponents, it bounces them upward with set knockback, causing hitstun but no knockback, which allows Snake to link the opponent into the second hitbox. Since the knee hitbox bounces grounded enemies upward, it can set up an up tilt. The second hitbox has fast start-up as well. This move can be used for general damage racking, as a [[punishing]] move, for KOing, and it is also a useful [[out of shield|out-of-shield]] option, as it takes hardly any frames for the hitbox to come out. However, enemies can powershielded out of the knee hitbox to avoid the second hitbox. During the first hitbox, Snake's right leg is [[intangible]]. | |||
|- | |||
|10% | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Up tilt | !Up tilt | ||
| || || | | || 12% (clean), 10% (late) || Snake performs a quick uppercut with his right hand. This move has low start-up, great vertical reach, and surprisingly good horizontal reach, as well as great vertical knockback, capable of KOing lightweights around 120% while KOing heavyweights around 160%. Higher knockback when the hit connects earlier on in the attack, though the sourspot will still reliably KO under 150%. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Down tilt | !Down tilt | ||
| || || | | || 11% (clean), 10% (late) || Snake does a low spin kick while prone. While this move is fast and has good vertical knockback, it is not as good as his forward and up tilt, due to having less reach than the forward tilt, and much less knockback than the up tilt. This move can still be used as a surprise KO move since it's usually fresh when used. | ||
|- | |||
!Crawl attack | |||
| || 5% || Snake thrusts a small dagger out on the ground in front of him. Deals weak vertical knockback, but can set up for combos at high percents. | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Dash attack | !Dash attack | ||
| || || | | || 11% (clean), 8% (late) || Snake does a somersault forward. Deals moderate knockback and moves Snake forward a fair amount. The somersault and subsequent transition to crouching are visually identical to those moves used by Snake in the ''Metal Gear Solid'' series. | ||
|- | |||
! rowspan=2 | Forward smash | |||
| rowspan=2 | || {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|6}} (hit 1), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|8}} (hit 2) || rowspan=2 | Snake pulls out a small dagger in reverse-grip and holds it back before quickly slashing forward twice. By pressing the attack button again, he will perform a third slash that deals more damage and knockback. Due to knockback of the first two hits, it's often hard, if not almost impossible, for the third slash to hit the opponent, preventing all three hits from being a three-hit combo. | |||
|- | |- | ||
|{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|12}} | |||
|- | |- | ||
!Up smash | !Up smash | ||
| || || | | || 4% (startup), 14% (mortar) || Snake slams a mortar in front of himself and fires a shell into the air. The movement of the shell is entirely vertical, with its horizontal movement being angled by holding the left or right on the [[control stick]]. Charging this move does not increase the shell's power, but it increases the speed at which it is fired, making it go higher. When fully charged, the shell travels great distances, reaching the top section of the watchtowers in [[Shadow Moses Island]] (if used at the bottom section of the stage), making it have the greatest vertical reach of any smash attack. The shell explodes if it makes contact with a ceiling, an opponent, a wall or the ground, no matter what direction it's moving in. Slamming down the mortar has a hitbox that produces very weak vertical knockback that knocks opponents into the mortar's line of fire. The shell cannot damage Snake unless it is reflected by moves like [[Reflector]]. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Down smash | !Down smash | ||
| || || | | || {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|14}} || Snake starts digging a hole in the ground and places a landmine inside. A short while after planting the mine, it becomes active, and will detonate if anyone (including Snake) steps on it. If the platform the mine is set on disappears (such as on [[Rainbow Cruise]] or [[Delfino Plaza]]) the mine falls down and if it makes contact with anything, even the ground, it explodes. Snake can't plant more than one mine at a time, but it can be moved by using this attack again, which detonates it from its previous position and gets planted at Snake's current position. After a short time has passed or if Snake gets KO'd, the mine will self-detonate. The move itself is taken from ''Metal Gear'' and ''Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty''. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Neutral aerial | !Neutral aerial | ||
| || || | | || 3% (hit 1), 5% (hit 2), 7% (hit 3) || Snake performs three kicks in quick succession. The first kick has very fast start-up, but the whole move itself has slightly long duration with slight ending lag, making it punishable. All three kicks combo well into each other and is best performed high in the air, but can still come out in a short hop. Best used against airborne and large characters. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Forward aerial | !Forward aerial | ||
| || || | | || 15% (foot), 14% (leg) || Snake lifts his left leg over his head and axe-drops it down. This move has slow start-up and some ending lag, but it is a powerful move with great vertical and horizontal reach. Connecting this move on airborne opponents at Snake's foot is a [[spike]] while connecting at his leg result in a [[meteor smash]]. When used on grounded opponents, it deals powerful diagonal knockback. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Back aerial | !Back aerial | ||
| || || | | || 12% (clean body), 13% (clean leg), 14% (clean foot), 10% (late) || Snake extends both his legs out behind him, planking in the air. This move has fairly fast start-up along with good reach and deals good horizontal knockback when sweetspotted, making it a effective move for [[edgeguarding]]. It has some ending lag, however. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Up aerial | !Up aerial | ||
| || || | | || 12% (clean body), 13% (clean leg), 14% (clean foot), 10% (late) || Snake thrusts legs straight upwards, similar to his back aerial. This move fairly fast start-up with good vertical reach and powerful vertical knockback, but it has considerable ending lag. The move is useful for [[star KO]]ing airborne opponents that are above 100%. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Down aerial | !Down aerial | ||
| || || | | || 4% (hits 1-4) || Snake launches four subsequent kicks below himself. With a quick start-up, all four stomps can be performed in a short hop. The last stomp meteor smashes opponents. While somewhat laggy and punishable, this attack is good against shields, and is a great punishing move if Snake can predict where an opponent may end up after they performed a roll dodge. Unlike the neutral aerial, this move is generally better against grounded opponents. | ||
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!Grab | !Grab | ||
| ||—|| | | || — || Grabs and holds his opponent in a restraining chokehold, which is a grabbing position unique to Snake. In ''Project M'' Snake can move horizontally using the left and right taunt buttons during a grab. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Pummel | !Pummel | ||
| || || | | || 3% || Tightens his chokehold. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Forward throw | !Forward throw | ||
| || || | | || 9% || Flips them over and drops them (scoop slam). | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Back throw | !Back throw | ||
| || || | | || 9% || Turns around and slams opponent on the ground. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Up throw | !Up throw | ||
| || || | | || 10% || Performs a back suplex, slamming the opponent onto the ground. This throw can setup for an up tilt at low percentages. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Down throw | !Down throw | ||
| || || | | Silent Takedown || 14% || Lays opponent on the floor, putting the opponent into the downed status. One of the best tech-chasing moves in the game and lets Snake get an addition grab or hit if he can predict how the enemy will recover. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Floor attack (front) | !Floor attack (front) | ||
| || || | | || 6% || Gets up while kicking his foot out on one side and punches on the other side. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Floor attack (back) | !Floor attack (back) | ||
| || || | | || 6% || Rotates his body around with both his feet sticking out and gets up. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Floor attack (trip) | !Floor attack (trip) | ||
| || || | | || 5% || Does a swirling kick while getting up. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Edge attack (fast) | !Edge attack (fast) | ||
| || || | | || 6% (body), 8% (leg) || Climbs on to the stage and performs a low sweep kick. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Edge attack (slow) | !Edge attack (slow) | ||
| || || | | || 8% (body), 9% (hip), 10% (leg) || Slowly gets up and thrusts his left leg forward. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Neutral special | !Neutral special | ||
| Hand Grenade || || | | [[Hand Grenade]] || 1-4% (throw), 11-12% (explosion) || Snake pulls out a grenade and unpins it. The grenade can be held for up to 1.5 second before it detonates, which can be "cooked" by holding the special button as soon a grenade is taken out. The distance Snake throws the grenade can be controlled by pressing either up, forward, down, or pressing no direction at all. Only one grenade can be out at a time and another one can't be produced until one explodes. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Side special | !Side special | ||
| Tranquilizer || || | | Tranquilizer || 1% || Snake shoots a small tranquilizing projectile out of a gun that puts a grounded opponent to sleep, allowing for easy follow-ups and starting combos. If the opponent is in the air, they are slightly launched backward with set knockback. Reloads after three shots are fired. Can also be manually reloaded prior to firing all three shots if the shield button is pressed within a few frames of pressing side special. The projectile can also be reflected, which will make Snake fall asleep instead. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Up special | !Up special | ||
| Cypher || || | | [[Cypher]] || 6% (2 hits), 5% (camera) || Snake grabs onto a flying reconnaissance camera to slowly hover upwards. This move does not make Snake become helpless, but will take away his mid-air jump and he won't be able to [[air dodge]]. One can cancel the ride early by performing any attack (excluding the up special), or by pressing down, upon which the Cypher will become an upward projectile. Despite the large amount of vertical distance this move covers, Snake is very vulnerable to edgeguarding due to being defenseless while hanging on to the camera. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Down special | !Down special | ||
| C4 || || | | [[C4]] || 16% || Snake bends down a plants a C4 on the ground where he is standing, drops one when used in the air, or sticks one towards a wall if he is standing near one. By using the move a second time, he takes out a remote and presses the button, detonating the explosive. If Snake is standing near an opponent, he can attach the C4 directly onto them, which functions like a [[Gooey Bomb]]. The detonation can be cancelled if Snake is attacked before he presses the button. | ||
|- | |- | ||
!Final Smash | !Final Smash | ||
| Grenade Launcher || || | | [[Grenade Launcher]] || 18% || Snake leaps off the stage and grabs onto a rope ladder of a helicopter, shooting up to twelve rounds of grenades from the foreground. After firing six shots, Snake will reload another round of six shots. If no shots are fired within a few seconds, Snake will automatically shoot a grenade towards the crosshair. | ||
|} | |} | ||
==In [[competitive play]]== | ==In [[competitive play]]== | ||
===Notable | ===Notable Players=== | ||
*{{Sm|Professor Pro|UK}} | {{cleanup|[[SmashWiki:Cleanup of the Notable Players sections|Needs to be updated to fit these guidelines]]}} | ||
*{{Sm| | *{{Sm|FlashingFire|USA}} - Ranked 46th on [[PMRank 2019]]; [https://discord.gg/SB5d3VT PM Snake Discord] admin and [https://smashboards.com/threads/collaborative-project-m-snake-guide.428789/ PM Snake Guide] co-author. Considered the best active Snake main post-quarantine. | ||
*{{Sm|Flipp|USA}} - Ranked 28th on [[PMRank 2019]]; the best Snake player in the world. | |||
*{{Sm|Professor Pro|UK}} - Formerly ranked 12th on [[PMRank 2016]]; famous for his [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3VQUEmsO8M $100 money match] against Rolex. | |||
*{{Sm|Yink|USA}} - Formerly highly ranked in Arizona. | |||
==Alternate costumes== | |||
===Project M=== | |||
Snake's blue costume from ''Brawl'' has been replaced with a more distinctive one, making it more noticeable on [[Team Battle]]s. In addition, he now has a costume based off of his father, Big Boss, a.k.a Naked Snake, as he appears in ''Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater''. | |||
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|colspan=8|[[File:Snake Palette (PM).png|frame|center|Snake's alternate costumes in PM]] | |||
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|[[File:SnakeHeadSSBB.png]] | |||
|[[File:SnakeHeadRedSSBB.png]] | |||
|[[File:SnakeHeadBlueSSBB.png]] | |||
|[[File:SnakeHeadWhiteSSBB.png]] | |||
|[[File:SnakeHeadGreenSSBB.png]] | |||
|[[File:SnakeHeadBrownSSBB.png]] | |||
|[[File:SnakeHeadBigBossPM.png]] | |||
|} | |||
===Project+=== | |||
Snake gets a set of costumes based on his appearance in the original ''Metal Gear Solid'', as well as a costume where he wears a tuxedo based on the ending of the aforementioned ''Metal Gear Solid''. | |||
[[File:Snake Palette (P+).png|800px|thumb|center|Snake's alternate costumes in P+]] | |||
'''Secret costumes:''' | |||
[[File:Snake Z P+.png|160px]] | |||
'''Z-Secret Costume:''' Iroquois Pliskin | |||
'''R-Secret Costume:''' Big Boss in Formal Military Suit | |||
==Trivia== | |||
*In build prior to 3.0, Snake's up taunt would involve him touching his beard, saying either "Not even close!" or "Tasty!", which was much shorter than his current up taunt. | |||
**Also prior to 3.0, Snake still had his Nikita, functioning just like in ''Brawl'', though it would always do 18% damage regardless of its speed. | |||
*If Snake's up taunt is cancelled at the right time, he will hold the cigarette in his mouth for the remainder of the stock, or until he uses his up taunt again. | |||
*As of version 3.5, despite the fact that Snake's grenade now has a timer of roughly 1.5 seconds, its graphics have not yet been updated and still reads "GRENADE,DELAY 3.0". | |||
*If Snake uses his Cypher while standing underneath a ceiling of a certain height, he will land and be able to act again almost immediately. The move can be used in rapid succession in this scenario. The only known places where this occurs are the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxrFhHaNXkA Hyrule Castle "tent"] and the level 3 Break The Targets stage. | |||
==External links== | ==External links== | ||
*[http:// | *[http://smashboards.com/threads/project-m-art-tuesday-big-boss-snake.364827/ Big Boss alternate costume reveal thread] | ||
*[https://smashboards.com/threads/collaborative-project-m-snake-guide.428789/ Collaborative Project M Snake Guide] | |||
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/q6nnar/labbing_discord_results_snake/ Labbing Discord Tech Post] | |||
{{Project M}} | {{Project M}} | ||
[[Category:Snake]] | [[Category:Snake]] | ||
[[Category:Characters (PM)]] | [[Category:Characters (PM)]] | ||
[[Category:Third-party | [[Category:Third-party characters]] |
Latest revision as of 01:16, July 3, 2024
Snake in Project M and Project+ | |
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Universe | Metal Gear |
Base game appearance | Brawl |
Moveset inspiration | Snake (SSBB) |
Alternate costume | Big Boss |
Snake is a playable character in the Brawl mod Project M and its successor, Project+. He has been given new moves as well as a mix of buffs and nerfs for his Project M incarnation.
Snake ranks 12th out of 41, at the midst of the A- tier, on the official tier list, a small drop from his 6th-place position out of 38 on the Brawl tier list. However, in the official Project+ tier list, he drops drastically, placing 34th out of 42, landing him at the top of C tier.
Attributes[edit]
Snake is a fairly tall, heavy character with a wide array of projectiles and explosives. Many of his normal attacks are quick to start up and have well-placed, powerful hitboxes that lead into each other. However, his movement on the ground is only average, and in the air it is slightly worse (though his neutral special, if B-reversed, can help alleviate this). Snake excels at dealing high-damage combos, setting traps, juggling airborne opponents, surviving and recovering from incredibly long distances, and KOing foes off the top blast zone. He also possesses strong defensive tools, such as a long grab range, quick moves out of shield, a strong crouch cancel (due to his high weight) and a crouch that ducks under many commonly used moves. His primary weakness is his lack of reliable tools to approach opponents with - this means he can struggle against characters that are faster than he is, have longer-ranged attacks, can out-camp his projectiles, or have some combination of those things. He is also easily combo'd himself if the opponent manages to land a clean hit. Furthermore, while his recovery can travel very long distances, it is faily predictable, and he often has to inflict damage to himself through C4 or grenades.
Because the Project M metagame rewards defensive play much less than Brawl does, Snake's campy special moveset has received several new tools to keep it on par. His Grenades can now be rolled, and explode twice as quickly. Despite now being limited to one at a time, this allows Snake to use them more quickly and frequently without having to "cook" them first to prevent foes from throwing them back at him. Cypher now deals damage and knockback even while Snake hangs onto it, and although it is slightly less useful and safe for recovery, the move is now a very strong out of shield option due to its fast startup, weak knockback, and the positioning Snake gets after using it. His Remote Missile was replaced with Tranquilizer Gun, which launches a very small sleep-inducing projectile that, when hit, allows Snake to easily place C4 on an opponent. With its new buffs, C4 no longer transfers between players or disappears (unless it is detonated or Snake is KOed), and Snake can now fake pressing the detonator. The feint forces an opponent to dodge or shield in anticipation of the explosion, limiting their options and granting Snake an advantage. Overall, its buffs make it especially useful against evasive players: once the C4 is attached to Snake's opponent, he can use the feint or simply detonate it to break a stalemate at any range.
Snake's ground attacks received some adjustments oriented both toward combo potential and KO potential. His jab and all of his tilts keep enemies closer; in particular, the first stage of his forward tilt now weakly bounces targets straight up, allowing the move to rack up damage in succession and keep opponents close much more efficiently than his jab does. Meanwhile, his smash attacks were reworked for KO potential, with his down-smash mines receiving a substantial boost in knockback and his up-smash mortar no longer having a random, uncontrollable angle. Snake's new knife forward-smash, while seemingly more oriented toward speed than launching power, consists of two stages that both end in powerful strikes, allowing Snake to mix up shielding opponents by delaying or not using the second stage. While Snake's up- and down-throws received only minor tweaks, his forward- and back-throws, which still bounce the foe horizontally across the ground, now consist of mostly set knockback and are more effective at leading into a mine. Additionally, Snake's new ability to drag foes left or right during a grab can more advantageously position him to reliably throw a foe onto a mine.
Listed below are numerical values for many of Snake's attributes. The raw number comes first (often in terms of in-game units of distance or speed), followed by how it ranks among the 41 characters in Project M. Note that the grab range rankings do not include characters with tether grabs.
- Weight - 105 (9th)
- Max Fall Speed - 2.12 (15th)
- Fast Fall Speed - 2.89 (14th)
- Gravity (Falling Acceleration) - 0.098 (23rd)
- Jumpsquat Frames - 5
- Max Run Speed - 1.55 (22nd)
- Max Walk Speed - 0.875 (30th)
- Max Air Speed - 0.94 (25th)
- Aerial Mobility - 0.55 (24th)
- Standing Grab Range - 17.2482 (6th)
- Dash Grab Range - 16.7382 (4th)
- Pivot Grab Range - 18.0387 (10th)
- Wavedash Distance - 24.68 (30th)
Changes from Brawl to PM[edit]
Snake received a mix of buffs and nerfs, with his buffs making him more suitable for the mod's offensive metagame. Snake's mobility for the most part has been considerably improved and he has various new tools he can use. His side special is now a tranquilliser gun which puts grounded opponents to sleep giving him many potential followups. His grab game is also even stronger. Snake can now walk around while grabbing his opponents allowing him to get closer to the ledge or his down smash mines. His down throw is also faster and deals more damage making it an even better tech chasing option.
As well as these buffs, Snake has also seen some nerfs. His weight has been reduced and he is much more vulnerable to combos due to the removal of hitstun canceling greatly hindering his endurance. All of his tilts are weaker and their notoriously large disjointed hitboxes have been considerably decreased. His aerials are also considerably weaker especially his neutral and down aerials. His Hand Grenades also take longer to spawn and he can only have one out at a time making them less effective as a defensive tool.
Overall, Snake buffs alleviate his nerfs and he overall remains a strong character.
Aesthetics[edit]
Up taunt has been changed to a taunt where Snake briefly smokes and then drops the cigarette in front of him, causing 4% flame damage to nearby opponents. However, after lighting the cigarette, Snake can jump to cancel the taunt and keep it in his mouth. It can then be thrown by using up taunt again.
New up taunt deals 1% recoil damage to Snake.
Down taunt is faster allowing Snake to use his cardboard box as an attack sooner.
Side taunt now has Snake speak into his codec, saying "Colonel, mission accomplished", similar to in one of his victory poses.
Snake now uses regular punching and kicking SFX for his attacks, rather than unique ones.
Attributes[edit]
Snake walks slightly faster (0.84 → 0.875).
Snake dashes faster (1.35 → 1.55).
Snake's air acceleration is higher (0.03 → 0.55) no longer being the lowest in the game.
Snake's falling speed is higher (1.73 → 2.12).
Snake's gravity is higher (0.08 → 0.098).
Snake's traction is higher (0.0542 → 0.08). This makes it easier for him to punish out of shield but shortens the distance of his new wavedash.
Jump squat is 5 frames long, down from 9 in Brawl. This allows Snake to jump much more quickly and gives him access to all of his aerials/air dodge 4 frames sooner.
Snake's grounded jump height has been increased, which along with the faster falling speeds and addition of L-canceling, allow better and less risky usage of his aerial attacks and also equip him with a powerful SHFFL.
Grab release glitch from Brawl has been removed. (with one edge-case of Kirby Inhale Grab-release still causing the glitch)
The general new physics of Project M, which include enhanced air movements and the re-introduction of techniques such as wavedashing, increase the pace of many characters' playstyles, allowing most of the cast to overcome Snake's metagame, which was one of the most powerful in Brawl. Overall, Snake does not benefit as much from these techniques other than L-canceling, compared to other characters.
Snake is significantly lighter (113 → 105), going from a super heavyweight to a normal heavyweight; Snake now is only slightly heavier than Captain Falcon and Link and weighs the same as Ike. While this would make him less vulnerable to combos, his higher fall speed/gravity and the removal of hitstun canceling make him more vulnerable to combos.
Ground Attacks[edit]
Third hit of neutral attack has less start-up (frame 10 → 8) and deals slightly more damage (7% → 8%).
Third hit of neutral attack has reduced knockback (60 (base)/115 (scaling) → 70/80) and smaller hitboxes (4u/6.5u → 3.28u/5.33u). The first two hits also have smaller hitboxes.
First hit of forward tilt deals slightly more shield damage (3 → 4) and now causes grounded opponents to bounce upwards, allowing the second hit to connect more reliably and is faster on hit due to less hitlag. The second hit also has less startup lag with a longer duration (frame 6 → 5-7).
Both hits of forward tilt no longer have large disjointed hitboxes (7u/6u/5u → 5u/5u (hit 1), 6u/7u/5u/6.5u → 4.15u/3.75u (hit 2)). The first hit can no longer trip and second hit has more ending lag (frame 31 → 39).
Second Hit of forward tilt now deals consistent damage (9%/10%/12% → 10%) and has altered knockback (50 (base)/80 (scaling) → 35/90).
Snake has a new up tilt: an uppercut. It has less startup (frame 6 → 5) and ending lag (frame 39 → 35) and overall has much better combo potential than his previous up tilt. It also deals extra shield damage.
New up tilt no longer has its large disjointed hitbox in front of him (6u/5u/5u → 2.95u/4.35u/3.15u (clean), 6u/5u/7u → 2.95u/4.28u/3.5u (late)). It also has significantly less range, a shorter duration (frame 6-12 → 5-7 (clean), 8-9 (late)) and deals less damage (13% (clean)/12% (late) → 12%/10%) without its knockback fully compensated (55 (base)/95 (scaling) → 50/103 (clean), 45/95 → 40/103 (late) hindering its KO potential.
Down tilt has a longer duration (frames 6-9 → 8-13) and now has a clean hitbox that deals 1% more damage (10% → 11%) and it has less ending lag (fame 35 → 31). It has better combo set ups than Brawl at lower percents due to its lower knockback, allowing it to set up for a grab.
Down tilt has more startup lag (frame 6 → 8) and deals less knockback (50 (base)/110/100 (scaling) → 35/80) hindering its KO potential. It also has smaller hitboxes (5u/4u/3.5u → 3.5u/2.87u/2.5u).
Dash attack has a longer duration (frames 5-12 → 6-16) has less ending lag (frame 43 → 40) and now deals consistent damage (11%/9% → 11% (clean), 8%/6% → 8% (late)) and deals more knockback 50 (base)/85 (scaling) → 60/80).
Dash attack has more startup lag (frame 5 → 6).
Snake has gained a crawl attack: a knife stab. This deals low damage and knockback, allowing it to set up for combos at high percents.
Snake has a new forward smash: a three hit knife combo, where Snake slashes twice in front of him, then performs a third stronger slash with a second press of the attack button. It is much faster than his previous forward smash having less startup (frame 41 → 13) and ending lag (frame 82 → 49 (first hit only)) and deals 4% more damage if all hits connect (22% → 6% (hit 1), 8% (hit 2), 12% (hit 3)).
New forward smash deals less knockback (100 (base)/60 (scaling) → 30/139 (hit 2), 40/110 (hit 3)), and is less reliable as the second hit as high knockback preventing it from connecting with the third hit beyond low percents and the third hit is easy to DI out of.
Up smash's mortars deal more damage (10% → 14%) and launch opponents at a more vertical angle (65° → 77°). Their horizontal angle is no longer random; instead, the player can control it similar to Ivysaur's Seed Bomb. It also has less ending lag (frame 54 → 51).
The mortal shells deal less knockback (90 (base)/67 (scaling) → 75/45).
Down smash has less ending lag (frame 78 → 35), and the mines have more knockback growth (58 → 75) along with having a larger detection radius.
Down smash mine is now purple instead of yellow.
Snake can no longer perform the Gatling Combo. In addition, his DACUS covers much less distance and is harder to perform.
Aerial Attacks[edit]
Neutral aerial's number of kicks has been reduced from four to three, allowing all kicks to connect in a short hop and rack up damage to launch the opponent afterwards.
Neutral aerial deals significantly less total damage due to the removal of the fourth kick, dealing 15% in total rather than 28%. The last kick also deals less knockback.
Tip of forward aerial now spikes, making it a deadlier edge-guarding move when spaced correctly, and also deals 1% more damage. The sweetspot makes it a stronger KO move, especially on the ground.
Forward aerial no longer boosts Snake vertically. This removes its ability to help Snake's recovery, but makes it somewhat easier to land.
Forward aerial now has a motion trail.
Back aerial auto-cancels earlier (frame 63 → 33) now auto-cancelling in a short hop.
Back aerial has more startup lag (frame 7 → 8), the clean hit also deals less damage (16%/14% → 14%/13%/12%) and has less knockback overall (40 (base)/90 (scaling) → 20/100). Back aerial also has a shorter duration (frames 7-26 → 8-22).
Up aerial now has two sourspots on the clean hit, both of which deal less damage (14% → 13%/12%). It no longer auto-cancels in a short hop due to Snake's higher falling speed.
Up aerial has altered knockback (40 (base)/95 (scaling) → 35/100).
Down aerial is faster and its last stomp is now a meteor smash (361° → 270°), also acting better as an edge-guarding move.
Down aerial deals much less damage (6% (hit 1), 5% (hits 2 & 3), 12% (hit 4) → 4% (all)). The final hit is also much less reliable due to being a meteor smash allowing it to be meteor canceled and due to its much weaker knockback, it is no longer a viable KO option onstage.
Grabs and Throws[edit]
Snake can now drag grabbed enemies sideways by using the left and right taunt buttons.
Snake can no longer force his opponents into an aerial grab release. When combined with the changes to aerial grab releases, this greatly hinders his grab release's utility as he can longer guarantee an aerial release and he has lost all of the followups he had out of his aerial release apart from the landmine from his down smash.
Forward and back throws are significantly weaker, but can now be used to throw opponents into mines and C4s.
Up throw is a stronger finisher, and can chain grab at lower percents.
Down throw deals 2% more damage (12% → 14%) and is faster, forcing the opponent to act faster and racking up more damage as a tech-chasing move.
If Snake down throws an opponent off a ledge, they will be dropped down a lot further preventing Snake from getting guaranteed followups.
Special Moves[edit]
Hand Grenades explode much faster after thrown and do slightly more damage when thrown at the opponent. Snake can also now roll his grenades forward by tilting down as he is about to throw them, resulting the Grenade traveling less distance if needed.
Grenades now spawn on frame 8 instead of frame 1, and only one Grenade can be active at a time.
Snake has a new side special: Tranquilizer Gun; Snake shoots a small tranquilizing dart that puts a grounded opponent to sleep and causes airborne opponents to flinch, causing 1% damage either way. It can be fired three times before the clip becomes empty and Snake must reload. Trying to shoot while the clip is empty will force Snake to reload, but he can also reload at any point by pressing Side-B and then Shield during the first few frames of the animation. It has more utility than the Remote Missile, being much faster and allowing Snake to easily punish foes affected by the attack.
Tranquilizer Gun can only be shot 3 times before the clip becomes empty and Snake must reload. Trying to shoot while the clip is empty will force Snake to reload, but he can also reload at any point by pressing Side-B and then Shield during the first few frames of the animation. In addition, Tranquilizer Gun deals less damage (7%/14% → 1%), has a much shorter duration covering much less space and Snake has much less control over it compared to Remote Missile.
Cypher now emits electricity when used, and causes opponents to take 6% damage flinch when in close radius. It additionally has a slightly better horizontal movement.
Cypher gains less vertical distance,no longer grants Snake armor and Snake can no longer air dodge out of it.
C4s produce more vertical knockback to compensate for the faster falling speeds. In addition, they no longer disappear unless Snake is KO'd or sets them off, and the detonation animation can be canceled by holding the special button for a feint.
C4 no longer transfers between players, and Snake says "There!" upon sticking it to a character, making the move more noticeable.
Revisions[edit]
v2.5b[edit]
The second hit of forward tilt is stronger.
Neutral air's last hit is stronger.
Back air sweetspot lasts slightly longer.
Back air angles switched.
Up tilt's animation is touched up.
Up smash knockback and angle adjusted.
Cypher hitboxes are closer in to Snake.
Cypher adjusted in knockback and angle.
C4 explosion hitbox shifted upwards to match the graphic and hits slightly longer.
v2.6b[edit]
Jab 1's outermost hitbox shifted inward slightly.
Dash attack ends slightly earlier.
Crawl Stab's base knockback has been slightly increased.
Crawl stab's knockback growth has been slightly decreased.
Up smash comes out slightly faster and can now be angled by holding left or right.
Pivot grab has a bit more startup to match other pivot grabs.
Up throw has slightly more ending lag.
Hand Grenade has a new throw option, a low throw which Snake "rolls" the grenade on the ground.
The player must now press up to toss the grenade back instead of back.
Cypher can sweetspot the edge more easily.
Cypher is now wavebounceable.
v3.0[edit]
Neutral air's last hit sends at a slightly lower angle.
Forward air has reduced knockback growth.
Standing grab has much less reverse range.
Up tilt has a more polished animation.
Forward smash has a more polished animation.
Forward smash start up very slightly decreased.
C4 aerial stick hitbox moved up and slightly in.
Tranquilizer Gun has a 3 dart clip that can be reloaded prematurely by holding shield within six frames starting side B.
Up taunt replaced with a cigarette smoking taunt.
v3.01[edit]
Forward smash no longer displays all of Snake's facial expressions at once.
Fixed graphical issues during the second hit of forward smash.
Up tilt animation reverted to demo 2.6's Utilt animation.
Snake can now reload Tranquilizer Gun even when he hasn't taken any shots.
v3.5[edit]
Back air now deals 14%/13%/12% based on hitbox, instead of acting like a sex kick.
Dash grab has lower hitboxes that can grab short crouching characters.
Up tilt is no longer intangible around Snake's arm.
Crawl tilt has increased hitlag and SDI multiplier.
Forward aerial can only spike with the heel hitbox; the rest of the hitbox is now a meteor smash. All hitboxes also have less knockback growth and deal 1% less damage.
Down aerial's first three hitboxes have a higher SDI multiplier.
Standing grab can no longer grab short crouching characters.
Cypher decreases in height for each aerial use until Snake lands on the ground, and the attack's damage is reduced to 5% damage from 8% damage.
No longer gains invincibility when used on ground.
Ability to air dodge after using any aerial attacks has been removed.
C4 has slightly less knockback and 1% less damage, but trajectory is slightly better. Detonating C4 has slower interruptibility.
Interruptibility for setting C4 normalized to be the same for both grounded and aerial versions.
Jump cancel for setting C4 in the air removed.
Down smash mine placed higher up for easier detection.
Moveset[edit]
Up to date as of version 3.6.
Name | Damage | Description | |
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Neutral attack | 4% | Snake punches twice, then performs a spinkick. The final kick has high knockback but can be powershielded depending on the character, even if the combo is done as fast as possible. Based off the attack combo from Metal Gear Solid and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. The first jab can also be canceled into a f-tilt or a grab. | |
3% | |||
8% | |||
Forward tilt | 8% | Snake does a knee-thrust forward and if the attack button is pressed again, he will follow up with an overhead swing with both arms. This move is seen during a cutscene in Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes when Snake fights Grey Fox. The first hitbox has extremely fast start-up and good horizontal reach. On grounded opponents, it bounces them upward with set knockback, causing hitstun but no knockback, which allows Snake to link the opponent into the second hitbox. Since the knee hitbox bounces grounded enemies upward, it can set up an up tilt. The second hitbox has fast start-up as well. This move can be used for general damage racking, as a punishing move, for KOing, and it is also a useful out-of-shield option, as it takes hardly any frames for the hitbox to come out. However, enemies can powershielded out of the knee hitbox to avoid the second hitbox. During the first hitbox, Snake's right leg is intangible. | |
10% | |||
Up tilt | 12% (clean), 10% (late) | Snake performs a quick uppercut with his right hand. This move has low start-up, great vertical reach, and surprisingly good horizontal reach, as well as great vertical knockback, capable of KOing lightweights around 120% while KOing heavyweights around 160%. Higher knockback when the hit connects earlier on in the attack, though the sourspot will still reliably KO under 150%. | |
Down tilt | 11% (clean), 10% (late) | Snake does a low spin kick while prone. While this move is fast and has good vertical knockback, it is not as good as his forward and up tilt, due to having less reach than the forward tilt, and much less knockback than the up tilt. This move can still be used as a surprise KO move since it's usually fresh when used. | |
Crawl attack | 5% | Snake thrusts a small dagger out on the ground in front of him. Deals weak vertical knockback, but can set up for combos at high percents. | |
Dash attack | 11% (clean), 8% (late) | Snake does a somersault forward. Deals moderate knockback and moves Snake forward a fair amount. The somersault and subsequent transition to crouching are visually identical to those moves used by Snake in the Metal Gear Solid series. | |
Forward smash | 6% (hit 1), 8% (hit 2) | Snake pulls out a small dagger in reverse-grip and holds it back before quickly slashing forward twice. By pressing the attack button again, he will perform a third slash that deals more damage and knockback. Due to knockback of the first two hits, it's often hard, if not almost impossible, for the third slash to hit the opponent, preventing all three hits from being a three-hit combo. | |
12% | |||
Up smash | 4% (startup), 14% (mortar) | Snake slams a mortar in front of himself and fires a shell into the air. The movement of the shell is entirely vertical, with its horizontal movement being angled by holding the left or right on the control stick. Charging this move does not increase the shell's power, but it increases the speed at which it is fired, making it go higher. When fully charged, the shell travels great distances, reaching the top section of the watchtowers in Shadow Moses Island (if used at the bottom section of the stage), making it have the greatest vertical reach of any smash attack. The shell explodes if it makes contact with a ceiling, an opponent, a wall or the ground, no matter what direction it's moving in. Slamming down the mortar has a hitbox that produces very weak vertical knockback that knocks opponents into the mortar's line of fire. The shell cannot damage Snake unless it is reflected by moves like Reflector. | |
Down smash | 14% | Snake starts digging a hole in the ground and places a landmine inside. A short while after planting the mine, it becomes active, and will detonate if anyone (including Snake) steps on it. If the platform the mine is set on disappears (such as on Rainbow Cruise or Delfino Plaza) the mine falls down and if it makes contact with anything, even the ground, it explodes. Snake can't plant more than one mine at a time, but it can be moved by using this attack again, which detonates it from its previous position and gets planted at Snake's current position. After a short time has passed or if Snake gets KO'd, the mine will self-detonate. The move itself is taken from Metal Gear and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. | |
Neutral aerial | 3% (hit 1), 5% (hit 2), 7% (hit 3) | Snake performs three kicks in quick succession. The first kick has very fast start-up, but the whole move itself has slightly long duration with slight ending lag, making it punishable. All three kicks combo well into each other and is best performed high in the air, but can still come out in a short hop. Best used against airborne and large characters. | |
Forward aerial | 15% (foot), 14% (leg) | Snake lifts his left leg over his head and axe-drops it down. This move has slow start-up and some ending lag, but it is a powerful move with great vertical and horizontal reach. Connecting this move on airborne opponents at Snake's foot is a spike while connecting at his leg result in a meteor smash. When used on grounded opponents, it deals powerful diagonal knockback. | |
Back aerial | 12% (clean body), 13% (clean leg), 14% (clean foot), 10% (late) | Snake extends both his legs out behind him, planking in the air. This move has fairly fast start-up along with good reach and deals good horizontal knockback when sweetspotted, making it a effective move for edgeguarding. It has some ending lag, however. | |
Up aerial | 12% (clean body), 13% (clean leg), 14% (clean foot), 10% (late) | Snake thrusts legs straight upwards, similar to his back aerial. This move fairly fast start-up with good vertical reach and powerful vertical knockback, but it has considerable ending lag. The move is useful for star KOing airborne opponents that are above 100%. | |
Down aerial | 4% (hits 1-4) | Snake launches four subsequent kicks below himself. With a quick start-up, all four stomps can be performed in a short hop. The last stomp meteor smashes opponents. While somewhat laggy and punishable, this attack is good against shields, and is a great punishing move if Snake can predict where an opponent may end up after they performed a roll dodge. Unlike the neutral aerial, this move is generally better against grounded opponents. | |
Grab | — | Grabs and holds his opponent in a restraining chokehold, which is a grabbing position unique to Snake. In Project M Snake can move horizontally using the left and right taunt buttons during a grab. | |
Pummel | 3% | Tightens his chokehold. | |
Forward throw | 9% | Flips them over and drops them (scoop slam). | |
Back throw | 9% | Turns around and slams opponent on the ground. | |
Up throw | 10% | Performs a back suplex, slamming the opponent onto the ground. This throw can setup for an up tilt at low percentages. | |
Down throw | Silent Takedown | 14% | Lays opponent on the floor, putting the opponent into the downed status. One of the best tech-chasing moves in the game and lets Snake get an addition grab or hit if he can predict how the enemy will recover. |
Floor attack (front) | 6% | Gets up while kicking his foot out on one side and punches on the other side. | |
Floor attack (back) | 6% | Rotates his body around with both his feet sticking out and gets up. | |
Floor attack (trip) | 5% | Does a swirling kick while getting up. | |
Edge attack (fast) | 6% (body), 8% (leg) | Climbs on to the stage and performs a low sweep kick. | |
Edge attack (slow) | 8% (body), 9% (hip), 10% (leg) | Slowly gets up and thrusts his left leg forward. | |
Neutral special | Hand Grenade | 1-4% (throw), 11-12% (explosion) | Snake pulls out a grenade and unpins it. The grenade can be held for up to 1.5 second before it detonates, which can be "cooked" by holding the special button as soon a grenade is taken out. The distance Snake throws the grenade can be controlled by pressing either up, forward, down, or pressing no direction at all. Only one grenade can be out at a time and another one can't be produced until one explodes. |
Side special | Tranquilizer | 1% | Snake shoots a small tranquilizing projectile out of a gun that puts a grounded opponent to sleep, allowing for easy follow-ups and starting combos. If the opponent is in the air, they are slightly launched backward with set knockback. Reloads after three shots are fired. Can also be manually reloaded prior to firing all three shots if the shield button is pressed within a few frames of pressing side special. The projectile can also be reflected, which will make Snake fall asleep instead. |
Up special | Cypher | 6% (2 hits), 5% (camera) | Snake grabs onto a flying reconnaissance camera to slowly hover upwards. This move does not make Snake become helpless, but will take away his mid-air jump and he won't be able to air dodge. One can cancel the ride early by performing any attack (excluding the up special), or by pressing down, upon which the Cypher will become an upward projectile. Despite the large amount of vertical distance this move covers, Snake is very vulnerable to edgeguarding due to being defenseless while hanging on to the camera. |
Down special | C4 | 16% | Snake bends down a plants a C4 on the ground where he is standing, drops one when used in the air, or sticks one towards a wall if he is standing near one. By using the move a second time, he takes out a remote and presses the button, detonating the explosive. If Snake is standing near an opponent, he can attach the C4 directly onto them, which functions like a Gooey Bomb. The detonation can be cancelled if Snake is attacked before he presses the button. |
Final Smash | Grenade Launcher | 18% | Snake leaps off the stage and grabs onto a rope ladder of a helicopter, shooting up to twelve rounds of grenades from the foreground. After firing six shots, Snake will reload another round of six shots. If no shots are fired within a few seconds, Snake will automatically shoot a grenade towards the crosshair. |
In competitive play[edit]
Notable Players[edit]
FlashingFire - Ranked 46th on PMRank 2019; PM Snake Discord admin and PM Snake Guide co-author. Considered the best active Snake main post-quarantine.
Flipp - Ranked 28th on PMRank 2019; the best Snake player in the world.
Professor Pro - Formerly ranked 12th on PMRank 2016; famous for his $100 money match against Rolex.
Yink - Formerly highly ranked in Arizona.
Alternate costumes[edit]
Project M[edit]
Snake's blue costume from Brawl has been replaced with a more distinctive one, making it more noticeable on Team Battles. In addition, he now has a costume based off of his father, Big Boss, a.k.a Naked Snake, as he appears in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater.
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Project+[edit]
Snake gets a set of costumes based on his appearance in the original Metal Gear Solid, as well as a costume where he wears a tuxedo based on the ending of the aforementioned Metal Gear Solid.
Secret costumes:
Z-Secret Costume: Iroquois Pliskin
R-Secret Costume: Big Boss in Formal Military Suit
Trivia[edit]
- In build prior to 3.0, Snake's up taunt would involve him touching his beard, saying either "Not even close!" or "Tasty!", which was much shorter than his current up taunt.
- Also prior to 3.0, Snake still had his Nikita, functioning just like in Brawl, though it would always do 18% damage regardless of its speed.
- If Snake's up taunt is cancelled at the right time, he will hold the cigarette in his mouth for the remainder of the stock, or until he uses his up taunt again.
- As of version 3.5, despite the fact that Snake's grenade now has a timer of roughly 1.5 seconds, its graphics have not yet been updated and still reads "GRENADE,DELAY 3.0".
- If Snake uses his Cypher while standing underneath a ceiling of a certain height, he will land and be able to act again almost immediately. The move can be used in rapid succession in this scenario. The only known places where this occurs are the Hyrule Castle "tent" and the level 3 Break The Targets stage.
External links[edit]
- Big Boss alternate costume reveal thread
- Collaborative Project M Snake Guide
- Labbing Discord Tech Post
Playable characters in Project M and Project+ | |
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Playable characters | Bowser (Giga Bowser) · Captain Falcon · Charizard · Diddy Kong · Donkey Kong · Falco · Fox · Ganondorf · Ice Climbers · Ike · Ivysaur · Jigglypuff · King Dedede · Kirby · Knuckles · Link · Lucario · Lucas · Luigi · Mario · Marth · Meta Knight · Mewtwo · Mr. Game & Watch · Ness · Olimar · Peach · Pikachu · Pit · R.O.B. · Roy · Samus · Sheik · Snake · Sonic · Squirtle · Toon Link · Wario (Wario-Man) · Wolf · Yoshi · Zelda · Zero Suit Samus |