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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXpSaprgAYg&feature=endscreen&NR=1 There we go. [[User:Shanicpower|<font color="cadetblue">Shanic</font>]][[User talk:Shanicpower|<font color="red">'''power'''</font>]][[File:Shanicpower.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/Shanicpower|Make it rain!]] 05:10, 11 September 2012 (EDT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXpSaprgAYg&feature=endscreen&NR=1 There we go. [[User:Shanicpower|<font color="cadetblue">Shanic</font>]][[User talk:Shanicpower|<font color="red">'''power'''</font>]][[File:Shanicpower.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/Shanicpower|Make it rain!]] 05:10, 11 September 2012 (EDT)
== New name as on SSB4 ==
The SSB4 manual [http://smashbros.nintendo.com/downloads/SSB3DS_Control_Guide.pdf] refers to the move as Palutena's Bow ({{ja|パルテナの神弓}}), the name from Kid Icarus Uprising. What should we do about this? Move the page and reference the old name, or add the new name to the current page? [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 15:48, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:Definitely needs mentioned somewhere. I'd say add it to the page and maybe we can vote on moving. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 16:09, 10 November 2014 (EST)
:The in-game move customization calls it "Palutena Bow", at least on the version I've got. A minor difference (and one I know this wiki tends to ignore), but the in-game information should probably be used over info from a manual. [[Special:Contributions/96.51.112.221|96.51.112.221]] 21:29, 23 December 2014 (EST)
== Customization comparison ==
So I tested both custom moves for each of the two in Training, with no equipment modifiers, and here's what I got, with (c) indicating charged shot.
{| class="wikitable"
! Character
! Default
! Piercing
! Guiding
! Default (c)
! Piercing (c)
! Guiding (c)
|-
| Pit
| 3
| 6
| 2
| 8
| 14
| 6
|-
| Dark Pit
| 4
| 9
| 3.5
| 10
| 18
| 9
|}
So it appears that the Piercing Bow gives nearly double for both, while Guiding Bow cuts down by a fraction, though the reduction is less noticeable with Dark Pit. So, is there a preferred way to implement this? [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 22:00, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
:Damage? [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 22:44, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
::Yeah, that's the damage percentage. Forgot to note that. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 23:30, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
:::I suppose you could share the conclusions in the customization section. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 06:42, 5 July 2015 (EDT)
== Move ==
I '''support''', since I added the tag. <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  15:21, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
:'''Support''' per the tag. Equal representation in Smash to the current name and used name in native series. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: blue">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] Let's go Mets! ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 18:59, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
::'''Support''' per the tag. The tag says all. [[User:DekZek|<font color="Black">'''DekZek, '''</font><font color="Orange">'''The creature of your nightmares'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig-Oct.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 19:02, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
'''Badum, done.''' [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: black;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: orange;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 20:54, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
:Does the custom move menu call it "Palutena Bow" or "Palutena's Bow"? [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 20:55, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
::Palutena Bow. [[File:Badass Nidoking.png|20px]] [[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="blue">'''Draco'''</font><font color="red">'''Rex'''</font>]][[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="purple">'''King'''</font>]] 11:44, 6 November 2015 (EST)
'''Support''' Due to the differences, definitely. [[User:Jiashen C.|Jiashen C.]] ([[User talk:Jiashen C.|talk]]) 17:05, April 1, 2019 (EDT)
It was decided that the Silver Bow should be its own page. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 19:01, April 20, 2019 (EDT)
== Split Suggestion on Page ==
I personally don’t feel like we should split the two articles. The two moves are so similar it’s rather inefficient to have two pages. If anyone else sees a reason to split them, that’s fine by me. [[User:Speedmccool25|Speedmccool25]] ([[User talk:Speedmccool25|talk]]) 09:40, April 12, 2019 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 18:01, April 20, 2019

About death[edit]

Why is there no mentioning of that Pit can control the arrow after his death? I'll add that right away if someone doesn't oppose. ShanicpowerShanicpower.png Make it rain! 03:32, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

If you can provide a non-hack video and smashboard forum proof, by all means go ahead.--BrianDon't try me!Falco.gif 04:27, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXpSaprgAYg&feature=endscreen&NR=1 There we go. ShanicpowerShanicpower.png Make it rain! 05:10, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

New name as on SSB4[edit]

The SSB4 manual [1] refers to the move as Palutena's Bow (パルテナの神弓), the name from Kid Icarus Uprising. What should we do about this? Move the page and reference the old name, or add the new name to the current page? FirstaLasto 15:48, 10 November 2014 (EST)

Definitely needs mentioned somewhere. I'd say add it to the page and maybe we can vote on moving. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:09, 10 November 2014 (EST)
The in-game move customization calls it "Palutena Bow", at least on the version I've got. A minor difference (and one I know this wiki tends to ignore), but the in-game information should probably be used over info from a manual. 96.51.112.221 21:29, 23 December 2014 (EST)

Customization comparison[edit]

So I tested both custom moves for each of the two in Training, with no equipment modifiers, and here's what I got, with (c) indicating charged shot.

Character Default Piercing Guiding Default (c) Piercing (c) Guiding (c)
Pit 3 6 2 8 14 6
Dark Pit 4 9 3.5 10 18 9

So it appears that the Piercing Bow gives nearly double for both, while Guiding Bow cuts down by a fraction, though the reduction is less noticeable with Dark Pit. So, is there a preferred way to implement this? Berrenta (talk) 22:00, 4 July 2015 (EDT)

Damage? Nyargleblargle (Talk) 22:44, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
Yeah, that's the damage percentage. Forgot to note that. Berrenta (talk) 23:30, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
I suppose you could share the conclusions in the customization section. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 06:42, 5 July 2015 (EDT)

Move[edit]

I support, since I added the tag. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by BOO! Or maybe Nutta. 15:21, 28 October 2015 (EDT)

Support per the tag. Equal representation in Smash to the current name and used name in native series. Nyargleblargle Let's go Mets! (Talk · Contribs) 18:59, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
Support per the tag. The tag says all. DekZek, The creature of your nightmares Dekzeksig-Oct.png 19:02, 29 October 2015 (EDT)

Badum, done. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 20:54, 29 October 2015 (EDT)

Does the custom move menu call it "Palutena Bow" or "Palutena's Bow"? SerpentKing (talk) 20:55, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
Palutena Bow. Badass Nidoking.png DracoRexKing 11:44, 6 November 2015 (EST)

Support Due to the differences, definitely. Jiashen C. (talk) 17:05, April 1, 2019 (EDT)

It was decided that the Silver Bow should be its own page. Wolff (talk) 19:01, April 20, 2019 (EDT)

Split Suggestion on Page[edit]

I personally don’t feel like we should split the two articles. The two moves are so similar it’s rather inefficient to have two pages. If anyone else sees a reason to split them, that’s fine by me. Speedmccool25 (talk) 09:40, April 12, 2019 (EDT)