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:^Agreed to OT and Toomai. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Neutral]] 20:14, 5 February 2012 (EST)
:^Agreed to OT and Toomai. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Neutral]] 20:14, 5 February 2012 (EST)
:What is meant by "recognised top players"? --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 16:37, 16 February 2012 (EST)
:What is meant by "recognised top players"? --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 16:37, 16 February 2012 (EST)
::The players seen as the best. What else would it mean? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:50, 16 February 2012 (EST)
:::The definition seems dicey at best; would it be community consensus on the SWF forum or similar areas that consider some players to be the best of a specific character? --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 17:03, 16 February 2012 (EST)
::::General observation from what people have said, observation of tournament performance, and if someone believes another player is more notable than one on here, it can always be discussed here. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:09, 16 February 2012 (EST)
== Get rid of the Character sections ==
I think we should get rid of the List of professionals by character section; we have the Professionals category and more importantly the Notable players section on each character article. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 21:56, 8 October 2013 (EDT)
== Adding a stub template ==
I really think we should add a stub template in this article as this has little information on it, anybody agrees? [[User:NessFTW2000|Ness da best!]] ([[User talk:NessFTW2000|talk]]) 08:43, 13 May 2014 (EDT)
== Delete ==
This article is a blatant relic from MLG era SmashWiki, when the term "professional" was thrown around everywhere as a term for "good player", and indeed the article in its [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Professionals&oldid=111783 initial form] was just a "list of good players", which persisted until the "list of professionals" was [https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Professional_smasher&diff=499458&oldid=477654 removed several years later] (also the article had a botched move job way back and so its history is split between two different pages). An article just describing what a good player is has no worthwhile information to devote an entire article to, and reverting the page back to a "list of good players" is completely nonnegotiable when we got several better means to organize notable players for every character (whether it be the character players categories, the MHSP sections on every character article, or [[:Category:VIP players]] for especially historic players). The only somewhat salvageable angle I see for this article is expanding the income section and focusing the article entirely on that, but aside from likely not having the data for that (how many people publicly detailed their complete income from everything Smash?), there's the question if that would even be appropriate content for the wiki. If anyone wants to oppose this deletion, they must provide a draft for how this article could be restructured to be salvageable, because this article will not remain on the wiki in its current state no matter what. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:51, March 17, 2024 (EDT)
:I have to wonder what, in general, this article covers that the Smasher article doesn't. Unless that answer is something of significance, then I see no reason to oppose deleting this. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 11:25, March 20, 2024 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 10:26, March 20, 2024

The tables[edit]

I think Sir Teatei Moonlight has a point. The tables on this page don't serve much of a purpose in my opinion; that's what categories and such are for, and it would have to be basically changed constantly to mirror all the smasher pages we have. Bad idea. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Pan-Galactic 20:48, 3 February 2012 (EST)

^Agree with Toomai. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 22:24, 3 February 2012 (EST)

One way I think this page should be cleaned up; it should only list the recognised top players of each character only. Listing the professionals of each character is what the character categories such as Fox professionals are for, not this page. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 22:53, 3 February 2012 (EST)

Bump Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 19:34, 5 February 2012 (EST)

^Agreed to OT and Toomai. ..... The Neutral 20:14, 5 February 2012 (EST)
What is meant by "recognised top players"? --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 16:37, 16 February 2012 (EST)
The players seen as the best. What else would it mean? Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 16:50, 16 February 2012 (EST)
The definition seems dicey at best; would it be community consensus on the SWF forum or similar areas that consider some players to be the best of a specific character? --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 17:03, 16 February 2012 (EST)
General observation from what people have said, observation of tournament performance, and if someone believes another player is more notable than one on here, it can always be discussed here. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:09, 16 February 2012 (EST)

Get rid of the Character sections[edit]

I think we should get rid of the List of professionals by character section; we have the Professionals category and more importantly the Notable players section on each character article. Awesome Cardinal 2000 21:56, 8 October 2013 (EDT)

Adding a stub template[edit]

I really think we should add a stub template in this article as this has little information on it, anybody agrees? Ness da best! (talk) 08:43, 13 May 2014 (EDT)

Delete[edit]

This article is a blatant relic from MLG era SmashWiki, when the term "professional" was thrown around everywhere as a term for "good player", and indeed the article in its initial form was just a "list of good players", which persisted until the "list of professionals" was removed several years later (also the article had a botched move job way back and so its history is split between two different pages). An article just describing what a good player is has no worthwhile information to devote an entire article to, and reverting the page back to a "list of good players" is completely nonnegotiable when we got several better means to organize notable players for every character (whether it be the character players categories, the MHSP sections on every character article, or Category:VIP players for especially historic players). The only somewhat salvageable angle I see for this article is expanding the income section and focusing the article entirely on that, but aside from likely not having the data for that (how many people publicly detailed their complete income from everything Smash?), there's the question if that would even be appropriate content for the wiki. If anyone wants to oppose this deletion, they must provide a draft for how this article could be restructured to be salvageable, because this article will not remain on the wiki in its current state no matter what. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 20:51, March 17, 2024 (EDT)

I have to wonder what, in general, this article covers that the Smasher article doesn't. Unless that answer is something of significance, then I see no reason to oppose deleting this. Aidan the Gamer 11:25, March 20, 2024 (EDT)